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post #31 of 275
This looks to be beyond epic. I am really, really looking forward to it. I played the last one for over a hundred hours and didn't even follow the main quest for most of it. There was so much to do and enjoy just roaming around randomly.
post #32 of 275
Project Dark.
post #33 of 275
Oh man. Can not WAIT for this. Oblivion has easily been my favorite game on PS3, and this will be a no-questions-asked first day purchase for me.
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Three new videos posted yesterday, with 20 minutes of gameplay!

http://www.elderscrolls.com/skyrim/media/
post #36 of 275
I wonder how those videos will compare to the console versions. I'm assuming those must be PC builds.

But, man, this looks great. Morrowind is still among my favorite RPGs of all time, but the Elder Scrolls series has consistently been strong (I've being playing them since Arena). And after playing through both Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas, it's patently obvious which game is the standout, and it's just as patently clear that Bethesda can do what other RPG-focused studios (like Obsidian, who made New Vegas) cannot: create a world you want to experience.
post #37 of 275
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I wonder how those videos will compare to the console versions. I'm assuming those must be PC builds.

All vids shown so far have been from the xbox 360 version...including the 3 new ones from the last few days.
No doubt the PC version will look even more incredible with smoother framerate, but the console version looks great to me and will be the one getting my money.
post #38 of 275
This game will have me divorced lol.
I'm still playing Fallout 3, started from scratch again and happy to have done that. Exploring all the way. going totally random and when I'm done,..mainquest will follow.

Can't wait for skyrim and get lost.
post #39 of 275
I'm very worried that this game will suffer the same problems Oblivion, Fallout 3, and FNV had on the PS3. I'm praying I'm wrong...but I won't be preordering.
post #40 of 275
Oblivion was at it's best on PS3, but I agree about the Fallouts, they just ran much better on 360, even though the PS3 version had more effects and better textures, the lack of AA really hurt them. (as did the much worse framerate) I have the PS3 version pre-ordered, but I may switch it if the 360 version proves to be the better version once the PS3 version is shown.
post #41 of 275
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All vids shown so far have been from the xbox 360 version...including the 3 new ones from the last few days.

Wow. Seriously? I didn't see that mentioned anywhere. Awesome news if true.

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Oblivion was at it's best on PS3

That's only because it was released quite a bit later than the 360 version. It might also have helped that Bethesda didn't do the port themselves. IIRC it was 2K Games, who had much more console experience (pretty sure that the 360 version of Oblivion was Bethesda's first in-house console title).

Also, the fact that PS3s have harddrives made a big difference for the constant loads (lots of load hitches in 360 version). Fallout 3, however, was released simultaneously on both consoles, with many more bugs on the PS3 version. And Fallout New Vegas wasn't made by Bethesda, so I won't judge them for the crazy bug-fest that it was.

Regardless, I'm sure it'll be the usual assortment of bugs that all Bethesda RPGs have always had (on PC and both consoles).
post #42 of 275
Just get the PC version when the GOTY version is out and mod are good.
post #43 of 275
If I was a PC gamer and didn't have an irrational addiction to trophies, that's what I'd do. And if I had an X360...I'd probably go that route. But I don't. I have a PS3 and Bethesda hates the PS3. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that MAYBE they've finally learned their lesson and won't release a horrible buggy mess.
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Well, hopefully this is true:

http://twitter.com/#!/DCDeacon/statu...94625547206656

I believe it. Fallout 3 is Bethesda's only direct experience with PS3 development, and its only real failing was that it was buggier than the 360 version. Performance-wise, there weren't any noticeable discrepancies. And at this point in the console cycle, any major multiplatform developer should be able to achieve parity.
post #46 of 275
I just hope that the PS3 version has decent AA, the PS3 releases of FO3 and NV had none and it really showed. The 360 versions had scaled back visuals, but it had much better framerates (the PS3 version is V-Locked, but the 360 version will drop it to improve framerate)

Time to see how well they can work with the PS3 now that they have a lot of experience under their belt.
post #47 of 275
The new engine was built from the ground up for Oblivion / Fallout style games, so hopefully their built it right... forgetting to do anything for the ps3 side would be dumb. But, it's happened with other dev's before.

A heavily modified Gamebryo engine was the previous engine they used, and it sucked across all platforms. It just couldn't handle the amount of data of an open world fallout/oblivion.
post #48 of 275
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I just hope that the PS3 version has decent AA, the PS3 releases of FO3 and NV had none and it really showed.

Bethesda isn't to blame for the crapfest that was NV (it wasn't a pretty game on 360 either). That one lies squarely on Obsidian's shoulders. The engine and some assets may have been the same, but man that game ran like ass, looked like ass, had more bugs than ass, and was structured like ass. One of the worst RPGs I've ever played through from start to finish. If it weren't for the surprisingly good writing and voice work, I wouldn't have suffered through more than a couple hours of that game.
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I only lasted in Oblivion for about 4 hours before giving up. I tried to get into it but something just never clicked. Maybe I didn't care about the story, maybe I couldn't stand the clunky presentation, maybe both.

This new game engine sure looks pretty and seems to run MUCH more smoothly than Oblivion or Fallout. Will a lack of clunky play get me into Skyrim? Probably so if the writing is up to snuff. I am excited to get some demo time in this game, see if I like it.

Is it wrong that I'm even more excited to see Fallout 4 running on this thing? Too bad it's at least 1-2 years out
post #51 of 275
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I only lasted in Oblivion for about 4 hours before giving up. I tried to get into it but something just never clicked. Maybe I didn't care about the story, maybe I couldn't stand the clunky presentation, maybe both.

The problem for you might be pacing. The Elder Scrolls games take a long time to unfold. The main story in Daggerfall took dozens of hours to become clear. It took close to 20 hours until I knew what the primary goal was in Morrowind. And in Oblivion it was somewhere in the 8-10 hour range. But if Fallout 3 is any measure, then they've learned how to introduce a compelling storyline much sooner to better appease the console crowd.
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The problem for you might be pacing. The Elder Scrolls games take a long time to unfold. The main story in Daggerfall took dozens of hours to become clear. It took close to 20 hours until I knew what the primary goal was in Morrowind. And in Oblivion it was somewhere in the 8-10 hour range. But if Fallout 3 is any measure, then they've learned how to introduce a compelling storyline much sooner to better appease the console crowd.

That might be it. I covered a lot of ground and did quite a few quests. Even so it felt like I hardly advanced my character at all with NO headway in the story. Now that I remember, the menus were really confusing as well- bad for a game that makes you spend so much time in them. Some folks are complaining about the Skyrim menus being too clean and modern. I say don't change a thing! Getting in and out of the menus quickly is key for a good RPG.
post #53 of 275
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That might be it. I covered a lot of ground and did quite a few quests. Even so it felt like I hardly advanced my character at all with NO headway in the story. Now that I remember, the menus were really confusing as well- bad for a game that makes you spend so much time in them. Some folks are complaining about the Skyrim menus being too clean and modern. I say don't change a thing! Getting in and out of the menus quickly is key for a good RPG.

I played through Oblivion on PC and only played like 10-15 hours on the PS3 version. From everything I've seen, Skyrim is all about quick access to everything. Magic and weapons are all mapped to either the left or right shoulder button--each corresponding to the left and right hand of your character. Could be really clean. Seems similar to Bioshock's control setup, just with a lot more possibilities. In those recent preview videos, it looks like there's a quick menu for each shoulder button. If that's the case, you'd really only need the full menus for the map and character stats. And I thought the menu setup for Fallout 3 was easy to manage on a controller.

The actual combat, though, looks pretty much like it always has, so that could either be good or bad depending on your taste.
post #54 of 275
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How many folks are getting it on release day? I've ordered mine through Amazon for delivery that day. I can't wait!
post #55 of 275
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How many folks are getting it on release day? I've ordered mine through Amazon for delivery that day. I can't wait!

Since there's no online component, I'm not in a rush. If the prior Elder Scrolls games are any measure, this should be 100+ hrs of great gaming. But I've still got too many shorter games to get through (UC3, Batman AC, Gears 3, and AC Revelations) before getting to this one. I'll need to have a clear plate before diving in.
post #56 of 275
As some of you know I've been fortunate enough to have a review copy of Skyrim for almost 2 weeks. I've put a LOT of time into the game so expect a fairly large review. Unfortunately that's going to have to wait until 11/10/11 at 8AM EST.

Here is my question for you guys. What are your questions about Skyrim? What do you want to see in the review?
post #57 of 275
My one and only question is if the game suffers from the same problems as its sister titles on the PS3? Is it a buggy mess, or did they finally spend more than 10 people hours trying to optimize if for the PS3?
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My one and only question is if the game suffers from the same problems as its sister titles on the PS3? Is it a buggy mess, or did they finally spend more than 10 people hours trying to optimize if for the PS3?

All their games are buggy on all platforms. If you are talking about graphics, then that is an engine issue and not really "bugs". I would never personally buy any of their games on any console again. I never could finish Oblivion on the 360 due to game breaking bugs and crashing every hour. The PS3 version of FO3 was passable, but then I bought the GOTY version for the PC and will never look back. The PC gets the best graphics and mods.
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All their games are buggy on all platforms. If you are talking about graphics, then that is an engine issue and not really "bugs". I would never personally buy any of their games on any console again. I never could finish Oblivion on the 360 due to game breaking bugs and crashing every hour. The PS3 version of FO3 was passable, but then I bought the GOTY version for the PC and will never look back. The PC gets the best graphics and mods.

Nope, not talking graphics at all. Just thinking about how glitchy FO3 and FNV were. To this day, I can't believe I soldiered through all of FNV's faults right after launch. I got the plat, but have absolutely no desire to ever see that game again.

I never played Oblivion, and was going to get in anticipation of this, but hearing what a mess it is on the PS3 dissuaded me.
post #60 of 275
I definitely am. Already pre-ordered and paid for. Can't wait.

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How many folks are getting it on release day? I've ordered mine through Amazon for delivery that day. I can't wait!
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