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post #331 of 1421
Off to buy one I go
post #332 of 1421
Thanks for the pics!!!! Full array or edge lit? Yo said it's "thin" .....
post #333 of 1421
Nice pictures.

Edge lit or full array?
post #334 of 1421
sorry I forgot to post that. It is Full Array.
post #335 of 1421
Wow.......Sweet. that settles the debate. Thanks for taking the time out to post and please feel free to post more pics; we are jealous
post #336 of 1421
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mokushiroku View Post

Well it appears I am the first one in the world according to Sharp's Quattron support. They told me I was the first to register these. So I guess its my civic duty to give a brief review for you Videophiles.
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Thank you for this first amazing report. Now everybdoy is salivating so please supply some more meat as soon you can:
have you preformed any adjustments or your report is based on out of the box settings? Do not want to destroy your euphoria but what are the black levels with eyes adapted in completely dark room? Any signs of clouding/banding/flashlights/nonuniformities?. Any motion related issues?
post #337 of 1421
I contacted SHARP USA regarding the Full Array and this panel and they were excited but could not confirm because I believe they have a target Announcement Date locked in but some panels are trickling onto the market before their announcement - here's their response:

"Hi Allen, we can't confirm any details right now, but stay tuned for some BIG news from Sharp!"
I think they will confirm the Full Array and perhaps some future announcements on the 3D version, but at these prices and PQ is 3D that important? Great News!
post #338 of 1421
Thank you for the pics.
How is the 'glare' with that unit. I've seen the previous versions and the glare is pretty bad.
Does this unit have any type of anti-glare coating?

Good Luck with the set
Tony
post #339 of 1421
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Originally Posted by mokushiroku View Post

sorry I forgot to post that. It is Full Array.

Are you setting up an official owners thread? Given you are #1 owner in the world, so you should have the honors of setting the thread as well.
post #340 of 1421
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Originally Posted by Suzook View Post

Off to buy one I go

ok good luck suzook report back on your search.

its so refreshing to see a tv manufact. finally do what they say they are going to do .
post #341 of 1421
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Originally Posted by westa6969 View Post

I contacted SHARP USA regarding the Full Array and this panel and they were excited but could not confirm because I believe they have a target Announcement Date locked in but some panels are trickling onto the market before their announcement - here's their response:

"Hi Allen, we can't confirm any details right now, but stay tuned for some BIG news from Sharp!"
I think they will confirm the Full Array and perhaps some future announcements on the 3D version, but at these prices and PQ is 3D that important? Great News!

Did they mention by chance when this announcement was coming?
post #342 of 1421
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Originally Posted by mokushiroku View Post

sorry I forgot to post that. It is Full Array.

$3000 for full array... How does this maths work for Sharp... Thanks for clarifying and enjoy!
post #343 of 1421
Moku, what did you use to mount your set?
post #344 of 1421
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mokushiroku View Post

sorry I forgot to post that. It is Full Array.

Sorry to be picky but is this a full array & with local dimming or just full???
post #345 of 1421
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Originally Posted by irkuck View Post

Sorry to be picky but is this a full array & with local dimming or just full???

As far as I recall - Sharp's 935 is the only one with full array local dimming. The rest of their line up are either edge-lit with local dimming, or full array without local dimming
post #346 of 1421
Thanks Everyone, I am glad I was able to help.

Yeah I am not sure how they are making a profit on these, thats why I jumped at the opportunity. My contact in CA, didn't believe it either. She said nobody on the West Coast has them yet. Knowing that the 72 LG was pulled from U.S. release and that nobody else was making this size will really make this a hard to get item. Last November I was in Korea and got my first look at the LG 72inch pure LED LEX 9. It was for sale in one of those silly electronics stores. They wanted some astronomical amount for it like 18k or something. I took a picture of it, let me see if I can find it I will post it. This is the one slated for release from LG, but not anymore. This info was received from a source close to LG.
post #347 of 1421
My original mount from my 65 Panasonic plasma. Mounted easily, weighs about 50 pounds less too then the Panny.
post #348 of 1421
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Originally Posted by nick_083 View Post

Are you setting up an official owners thread? Given you are #1 owner in the world, so you should have the honors of setting the thread as well.

Good idea
post #349 of 1421
definately has some type of anti-glare panel. Much less then my Plasma's.
post #350 of 1421
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Originally Posted by irkuck View Post

Thank you for this first amazing report. Now everybdoy is salivating so please supply some more meat as soon you can:
have you preformed any adjustments or your report is based on out of the box settings? Do not want to destroy your euphoria but what are the black levels with eyes adapted in completely dark room? Any signs of clouding/banding/flashlights/nonuniformities?. Any motion related issues?

Definately no image retention at all with this unit. As for artifacting, nothing more then what I saw in my Kuro or Panny. There where some blown-out whites, but some adjusments fixed that. The black Levels are really where this LED shines. Simply amazing! The movie The Black Swan has some grain mixed with video noise, especially in high-contrast sequences, but it was probably just the film itself. Once I popped the Dark Knight in, it looked as good as I have seen a film on Blu-ray look. For example, some of the flesh-tones where pretty dismal at first with some color saturation, but some tweaks and I got it looking pretty good. This was from my VIP922 Dish box in 1080i. Sharpness gets distorted once and awhile with the constant changing camera scenes. All in all I would say its top notch. My only complaint is it still retains a little bit of the artificial look that most LED's portray. This one does it the least, but the picture is crystal clear and thats what matters to me.
post #351 of 1421
I sure hope these show back up @ BB, as I have about a grand saved up in giftcards. Was quite nervous when they pulled them off the site.
post #352 of 1421
For those in South Bay Area, Sunnyvale Fry's has a unit on display. Cars movie was being played.

Ordered one, will be delivered tomorrow morning
post #353 of 1421
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Originally Posted by rvk View Post

For those in South Bay Area, Sunnyvale Fry's has a unit on display. Cars movie was being played.

Ordered one, will be delivered tomorrow morning

In store pq comments?
post #354 of 1421
The brief time I spent with the TV, I felt the PQ was very good. Did not see any motion artifacts. Could not really judge the black levels, given the content being displayed.

I will post more detailed impressions tomorrow.
post #355 of 1421
^^^ For the price point, that is excellent
post #356 of 1421
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mokushiroku View Post
Thanks Everyone, I am glad I was able to help.Yeah I am not sure how they are making a profit on these, thats why I jumped at the opportunity.
No, they are not subsidizing you. Some analysis done earlier in this forum indicates that in their 10G plant Sharp uses glass sheets of the size which can fit 70" panels in two columns of e.g. 4 rows. They stamp 8 panels from a single sheet which is equivalent to what other manufs can do with 55" size.Thus 70" panel stamping is not that expensive to them. In addition their plant was underutilized and they are undercut on smaller panels by other manufs. Stamping 70" and not taking fat profits on them is a very good strategy for them - now they are undercutting others . One question still about the cost is how many LEDs are used in the 70" full array. Some real saving is done on local dimming/3D though.


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Originally Posted by mokushiroku View Post
Knowing that the 72 LG was pulled from U.S. release and that nobody else was making this size will really make this a hard to get item.
If LG pull out is confirmed it will be Sharp effect. Which is understandable, it is impossible to sell 72" at 3x Sharp 70" price .
post #357 of 1421
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Originally Posted by irkuck View Post
If LG pull out is confirmed it will be Sharp effect. Which is understandable, it is impossible to sell 72" at 3x Sharp 70" price .
I think the LG pull out of the 72" was for 2010, I have not heard about this for 2011.
post #358 of 1421
So I have already explained several times (and others have) that the Samung 75-inch is a myth, a zephyr, a bit of ephemera. It's not a product and therefore -- of course -- it's not shipping in 2011. The LG is barely a product and looked awful at CES anyway. It's almost like "who even cares if its a product, it's clearly not there yet".

I am pleased you like your Sharp. I personally am much more interested in the full-array model as I'd buy this for a half decade or more and the price delta seems small over that length of time. If it's as "better" as I think and your reports match what I'd experience on the less expensive model, I'm bullish.

That said, the Quattrons to date have had serious issues with dialing in reasonably accurate color. So I hope that's fixed. I may have to head down to Sunnyvale for at least a look-see @ Fry's.
post #359 of 1421
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post
So I have already explained several times (and others have) that the Samung 75-inch is a myth, a zephyr, a bit of ephemera. .
That is maybe too harsh, there is some flickering info it is real @summer, we'll see.

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Originally Posted by rogo View Post
That said, the Quattrons to date have had serious issues with dialing in reasonably accurate color. So I hope that's fixed. I may have to head down to Sunnyvale for at least a look-see @ Fry's.
This is most serious issue to check for now. First reports about blacks are very encouraging, if true than the high-end locdim coming later will be shocking black.

In any case, Sharp is now making the 70" era real. This is significant as consumer-priced LCD size jumps over plasma. Sounded impossible a couple of ys ago.

LCD is overall an insidious chameleon technology: spreading like octopus into new formats as can be seen now in transparent LCD displays for the masses. So the future is in LCD auqarium, LCD-dimmed windows, LCD as window decoration, LCD TV in windows with natural ecological backlight?
post #360 of 1421
Quote:
Originally Posted by rogo
So I have already explained several times (and others have) that the Samung 75-inch is a myth, a zephyr, a bit of ephemera. It's not a product and therefore -- of course -- it's not shipping in 2011. The LG is barely a product and looked awful at CES anyway. It's almost like "who even cares if its a product, it's clearly not there yet".

I am pleased you like your Sharp. I personally am much more interested in the full-array model as I'd buy this for a half decade or more and the price delta seems small over that length of time. If it's as "better" as I think and your reports match what I'd experience on the less expensive model, I'm bullish.

That said, the Quattrons to date have had serious issues with dialing in reasonably accurate color. So I hope that's fixed. I may have to head down to Sunnyvale for at least a look-see @ Fry's.
It's a myth that Sound and Vision talked about in this months magazine. They also said this non existent tv will come out and the end of the year.
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