Originally Posted by Peter Nielsen
Google is your friend and thread titles are of no relevance. My dealer just asked me what's up, and what's the deal with this hiss discussion - JBL contacted him. Apparently JBL is monitoring this thread too!
I'm not surprised that Harman, JBL and Lexicon monitor this thread. All large corporations monitor comments about their companies, in print media, on the internet, and social media. When it comes to the internet, this would be the prime site for Harman and JBL to monitor.
Not that it much matters. Harman has driven Lexicon into the ground. Few brands had the loyalty of Lexicon. (Note the use of the past tense.) Even now, it can be argued that Lexicon surround processing, which is now many years old, has never been clearly surpassed, and only equaled at best, and some would argue that L7 is still superior and offers greater flexibility and user adjustments.
Based on that, the owners of Lexicon waited and waited for news that a new processor would be released. The owners of Lexicon were so loyal that they waited for YEARS for any announcement of a new product. We would all be hard pressed to think of other brands in audio that had such a cult following and so much loyalty from their customers.
Harman squandered all of that. Harman and Lexicon completely ignored the comments posted here. Or at least they have never responded, not here or anywhere else. And the record of Lexicon in recent years demonstrates that they are no longer leaders in their field. For that matter, Lexicon couldn't even claim to be a follower, at least not on pre-pro processors. Followers at least do that --they follow someone else's lead and copy their products. Since Lexicon hasn't released a new processor in many years, they have not even done that.
Harmon and JBL are reading this forum? Well, why don't they comment on their record.
First we have the Lexicon version of vaporware, better known as the MP-20. That crashed and burned.
But wait, says Lexicon!!! Anecdotal reports from trade shows from about one year ago, quoted Lexicon reps as claiming that they are still working on a processor. But now we know that those secret plans were probably bogus as well. The latest update, and once again, all that we have to go on is a second-hand and anecdotal report from a trade show, is that we won't see a Lexicon processor for the next several years, at the earliest.
Of course, if you believe we will see a Lexicon processor even in two years, well, you must own ocean beach property in Arizona and believe that pigs really do fly.
Apparently JBL will release the new QLS in one of their ultra-expensive products. Of course, no one has ever actually heard the home theater version of QLS except in a crowded room and a limited demo at a trade show, and that was over a year ago.
Anyway, if JBL markets room correction separately from a new processor, the combined price of the two units will likely be over $25,000 based on projections from current pricing.
It is really laughable to hear that Harman and JBL are reading this site. The comments posted here and on the SMR site have been a public relations debacle for Harman and Lexicon. It is really astonishing that Harman took a great company, with a very loyal customer base, and undermined all of that.
So Harman and JBL monitor this thread, read the comments, and do nothing about it. That is their record.
It is time to accept the reality that there will not be a new Lexicon processor for at least several years. That is the latest anecdotal report, and no one from Harman or Lexicon has corrected that report. The topic of this thread -- whether there will be a new Lexicon processor -- is closed for all practical purposes. We can revisit that topic in several years. In two years, the few remaining followers of Lexicon can hold a meeting in Arizona on ocean beach property to discuss the topic of the non-existent processor.
t is time to shut down this thread, and move the discussion of JBL to a thread devoted to those products, or hiss to a thread devoted to that. And open a separate thread on the MC12HD for current owners to discuss any issues and problems with that unit. I believe other threads on the MC12 already exist, and I assume the same is true for JBL and Onkyo, and that is where the current discussion belongs.
It is both appropriate and ironic that the current discussion, both above, and below, has absolutely nothing to do with Lexicon or the topic of this thread, since there is nothing more to be said about the topic -- whether there will be a new Lexicon processor. Those of us who monitored this thread for that reason can now leave it to the rest of you to discuss topics that have nothing to do with a future Lexicon processor.
This has become a random thread on miscellaneous topics, none of which have anything to do with Lexicon. Where is the moderator when you need him?Edited by Emosewa09 - 2/3/13 at 7:09am