Originally Posted by newfmp3
For starters. It's not 200 bucks towards a NEW machine, its refurbed.
If you look at my post, you'll see my footnote. I completely understand it's refurbished. In many cases, refurbished machines are good as new. There may be a cosmetic flaw here or there, but the guts are most-likely new
. Po-TA-to, po-TAH-to. Frankly, it doesn't change my argument; you're trading in a broken out-of-warranty unit and getting a fixed unit in return for a fantastic price.
And the offer I was given to replace my 80gig when the laser died was $193 Canadian for a refurbed unit. Cost of unit/shipping/tax.
That's why I prefaced my post with "If I understand correctly". I'm happy to be corrected. I was specifically addressing the units mentioned earlier that are replaced with slims for $99 (American). Which ones are those?
Next, you can't honestly believe the fridge comparison? If I buy a fridge from company X. And the fridge dies...I get another fridge from company X or if you are half intelligent at all you do not buy a fridge from company X again since it died, instead you go with another brand ( an option gamers do not have unless you want to render your existing gaming content useless and go with another console). I put food in my fridge. Company x or y doesn't make any money off of my food.
That's the problem with analogies. They will always break down if you take them far enough. Don't like fridges? Use your own analogy. The fact is that the $99 replacement for out-of-warranty product is a better deal then you'd get with any other type of product.
(As a matter of fact, just search these forums and you'll find plenty of people who purchased new PS3s knowing full well of the YLOD issues that many have complained about. These people even went so far as to purchase after-market guarantees! Sony's unofficial out-of-warranty replacement on fatties is actually a better deal than after-market plans
. It's cheaper, you only have to pay if you use it (unlike a paid gaurantee that you pay upfront, regardless if you need it) and as of yet, it has no expiration!)
Sony makes money off of games. Owners with broken PS3's aren't buying games, DLC, video's etc. They aren't repairing broken ps3's out of the kindness of their hearts. They are making off of it, AND making money off of the content purchased by said owner for said system until the next one breaks....and Sony makes more money off of another "repair" ...rinse repeat. If they didn't at least repair it, we would go to company "Y".
No you wouldn't. You'd buy a brand new one for the same reason you paid almost $200 for a refurb - you don't want to render your entire gaming content useless - and Sony would make even more money. It's either worth it to switch or it's not. Don't be mad at Sony because YOU
put more value into their console than you should.
Honestly, I am amazed at how easily accepted the failure of this generation is by people.
And what is
the failure rate of this generation? It seems that there's an awful lot of bellyaching, but still no actual evidence of PS3s lifespan. Anecdotes are hardly evidence, but my unit is still running strong after 3 years.
Consumers in this day and age have just turned into "suckers" and we are paying through the @#$@# for it.
Talk about suckers...I just heard about this guy who shelled out an additional $193 Canadian for a refurbished unit when his 80gig - which was less than 4 years old - died! lol!! And he admits that this one will probably break too! Thanks to guys like him, Sony's laughing all the way to the bank
But seriously, "suckers", "shills","corporate stooges"... I've heard them all. These are the words that get tossed around on a regular basis in these forums at anyone who dares
to not be outraged by Sony. :::shrug:::
And, as far as I know, most electronics do not use lead solder anymore. These consoles are dying because they are poorly designed......heat issues...imagine that. All that CPU/GPU crammed into a small box = heat. But consumers demand small box's.
Yeah we heard it already. Poorly designed. Cheap solder. It's been proven and documented. blah, blah, blah. Maybe you can give morphinapg
a hand finding some real evidence of this.