The Lord Of The Rings Extended - Page 43

It leaked around the same time people began recieving shipment noifications and getting the real disc, so I'm guessing thats what it is. And it'd be a pretty crazy pirate to reencode 200GB worth of video for some reason. Anything is possible of course, but I'm guessing the simple explanation is the correct one.

here, here, me


from blu-ray.com:

All right, so I contacted Bill Hunt from The Digital Bits and his source confirmed to him that Peter Jackson and Andrew Lesnie not only approved the transfer but dictated the new color timing. There will be further information in his review of the films in the coming week. In the mean time, read below his reply email:


somehow i cannot believe that all directors suddenly begin to like the same look for every movie. i bet its the studios pressuring and telling them to approve the release, because that look might boost sales. and jackson turned to be a believer anyway at the academies when he talked about how his older gore movies were little sins of the past -.-

anyway, no matter what they approve or not, to me it remains what it is: an otherwise good release, apart from the colour scheme.

Movies with DIs don't get remastered.

He is in his own world so dont worry about it

EE has better contrast

whats the verdict about the colours of ROTK EE? when applying the same changes I do for FOTR, then the picture also becomes a little better most of the time tbh. also looks like theres a bit of a greenish look here (e.g. the ungolianth scene with frodo and sam looks somewhat teal as ****; also the fighting scene with the oliophants, the kings horse is not white, but somewhat greenish as well).

anyone able to confirm?

The mountain scenes are unbelievably bad. Blue skies and white snow, who doesn't know what that looks like in real life? You know that green looks wrong the instant you see it, you don't need a side by side comparison.

If they gave us top notch releases of all the films then the gravy train would be over for them. They have to leave room for an upgrade, so a few years from now they come out with de-green'd version and everyone buys again. That's the only explanation I can come up with when looking and the green sky and green snow in the mountain scene. It can't be because they thought it looked good.

And judging by some of the comments in this thread, there are people here who are far more color blind than me, but apparently they are not aware of it!

That's the normal cycle, anyway. In a few years to come Blu-ray will no longer be state of the art, so this will most likely be the time for a new release. And besides, good old Peter Jackson rubber-stamped the new colour timing. So people should get used to it and continue with their every day lives (that is, if they still have one - judging from all the fuss based on screenshots I begin to doubt it).

And now the conspiracies start. Yes, they purposely changed the color scheme so that they can correct it down the line and sell it to us again. So is this also the reasoning behind the similar color "problems" in Blade Runner, Aliens/s, Lethal Weapon, Memento, Taxi Driver, Exorcist, French Connection, Fight Club, Gladiator, and every other modern remaster that has a new color scheme?

I wouldnt say that its done on purpose to correct it later again. but I'd say they do it, because that look is en vogue atm and some groups of consumers like it that the movie looks like a modern product.

Sigh

I usually dont have much of a problem with revised color schemes; compared to the likes of blade runner and alien, this seems more like an error than deliberate artistic choice, because it seems like literally the entire film has the same screwy white balance. The other movies are more selective in how its applied.

No, I can't confirm, but I think you meant Shelob. Ungoliant is Shelob's mother from The Silmarillion.

btw are you greg, from the other site?

I dont think so, never used the name greg

whatever that spiders name is. as said, the look is quite greenish here as well, but I dont know in how far this is intended for the 3rd part.

It's there, now.

Sorry, I just noticed that you quoted greg in post 1263, I thought you were him.
I haven't seen any caps of that particular scene you are reffering to, but would like to.

Aaaand here comes the s***storm. Pass the popcorn.

Got it

Out of curiosity, I tried to find one of these 70-80gb files and the only one that came even remotely close was 30gb for FOTR, and the actual movie was around 15gb with the rest being the extras. Person says it was encoded in the DVD9 format to preserve all of it's original quality. The movie was copied using DVDFab Platinum, then converted to an .ISO using Img burn.
There's also a 44gb but it's the complete trilogy. No mention how it was compressed.
No, I have no desire or inclination to download it. If this is the source, I think I can chill a bit until we at least have a reputable source.

If all three films were green 'round the gills I'd give the "that's what Jackson and Lenise wanted" argument a second thought. For just FOTR to be cyan, I don't buy it for a second. (And if they did bork the colors for just one film... well, that's almost worse, isn't it?) It's a real shame, too, since the EE transfer for FOTR seems worlds better than the prior transfer otherwise.

Still, I skipped the TE and find the long versions are the only ones worth revisiting... sigh. What's a geek to do?

Edit: Most of the 1:1 BD rips are on "private", invite-only communities. The re-encoded versions are scattered around elsewhere, and are kind of irrelevant to this discussion.

I have zero doubts that the Caps-A-Holic comparisons are accurate.

warner will not allow captures from the screeners to be used in reviews due to the lotr set

Still no comparison between FOTR and flashback scenes in TTT

Without getting into specifics, I looked there too. I don't think they exist.

skipped a bit further through and when I apply the same kind of regrading as for FOTR to other scenes, they often look a bit too bright and artificial. so I believe that teal look was really intended for ROTK, as it it only present in some scenes and not so much in others and/or correcting the other scenes looks quite a bit worse than in FOTR.

Confirmation of the color timing change..........he did not mind it apparently, but not all will share that opinion obviously.

If the information from Hunt is to be believed, it's not just a matter of him not minding the changes, it's a matter of him giving instructions to make the changes. An important distinction, don't you think?

Bill Hunt, The Digital Bits:
[Emphasis added]

This has to be hyperbole, because it could not be literally true. Thus it sounds like some PR person trying to douse a fast-moving brushfire. How long before Jackson "can't say with certitude" that he approved the FOTG?

That's a bit vague. What PJ approved and what people will see on the disc could be different if an error happended elsewhere, hopefully we can get an answer from Jackson himself as to whether the color cast is what he signed off on.

LOL!
You're right.

There won't be any time wasted in calling Bill Hunt unfit to pass judgement on the video.
After all....the guy doesn't have much credibility.

Not sure if thats sarcasm, but no argument from me
I remeber him being quite pleased with the first attempt at Gladiator.