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post #241 of 5568
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Originally Posted by b_scott View Post

what's the high end of realistic bitrates right now? 30-40? These are 3.5 hours on the long end. Can you fit that onto a 50GB?

The Return Of The King is over four hours long. The others are not quite as long, but still mostly longer than that. It's not just the length, but the complexity of the shots to compress that determine bitrate.

Two discs with good, higher than the WB-norm bitrates are needed. We don't want them filtering and DNR'ing the hell out of these classics.
post #242 of 5568
really? I saw them all back to back to back on opening night of RotK and the whole day was 12 hours. I didn't realize it was that long, sorry. That would've just been the original cut. I looked it up and I guess the EE is 250 minutes, so I suppose you're right that they should split it.
post #243 of 5568
Only 5.1 DTS-MA?????? I hope this is incorrect, as even the TE had 6.1

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...y_Details/6532
post #244 of 5568
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Originally Posted by dan hitchman View Post

put me down for two discs per movie with healthy bitrates and a quality direct-digital transfer from the digital 2k ip's. At least they were supervised. I doubt wb would have gone back to the original elements and done a 6k scan.

I, personally, would want them to do something like paramount will undoubtedly do for "the ten commandments" with the disc break at the intermission.

Though the extended cuts didn't have an actual intermission, they should have had peter jackson supervise intro, intermission, entr' acte, and exit music with appropriate title cards at spots of his choosing. Just like a road show release from the golden age of cinema.

Unfortunately, i bet wb will do the ol' fade out and "insert disc 2 to continue the adventure" bs like they did with the dvd's.

Oh, and i would have loved 7.1 lossless remixes.

+1
post #245 of 5568
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Originally Posted by b_scott View Post

really? I saw them all back to back to back on opening night of RotK and the whole day was 12 hours. I didn't realize it was that long, sorry. That would've just been the original cut. I looked it up and I guess the EE is 250 minutes, so I suppose you're right that they should split it.

Yeah, I thought you were talking about the theatrical cuts. No prob.
post #246 of 5568
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Originally Posted by b_scott View Post

really? I saw them all back to back to back on opening night of RotK and the whole day was 12 hours. I didn't realize it was that long, sorry. That would've just been the original cut. I looked it up and I guess the EE is 250 minutes, so I suppose you're right that they should split it.

I cant do the ROTK in one sitting anymore it's way too long, especially when I watch my movies at night once all are asleep.
post #247 of 5568
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post

Yeah, I thought you were talking about the theatrical cuts. No prob.



yeah I guess I just didn't watch RoTK that much on DVD, at least not as much as the first two. By that time I was less enthralled by the movies.

I did enjoy having the experience of seeing all three in one day including the FotR and TT EE's before the premiere of RotK all in one theater, though that was a looooooooong 12 hours haha.
post #248 of 5568
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Originally Posted by curlyjive View Post

Only 5.1 DTS-MA?????? I hope this is incorrect, as even the TE had 6.1

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...y_Details/6532

WB must have forgotten about the 6.1 discrete re-mixes done for the extended cuts at the behest of DTS and New Line Home Video. They could have at least included these if they weren't going to go all-out for 7.1 overhauls. That's what Paramount did for Top Gun on Blu.
post #249 of 5568
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Originally Posted by curlyjive View Post

Only 5.1 DTS-MA?????? I hope this is incorrect, as even the TE had 6.1

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...y_Details/6532

6 blu rays cool. The movies must be split into 2. Fantastic news!!
post #250 of 5568
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post

WB must have forgotten about the 6.1 discrete re-mixes done for the extended cuts. They could have at least included these if they weren't going to go all-out for 7.1 overhauls.

I know this is AVS and all, but even on here I wonder how many users actually have 7.1 setups. I can't in my current living room, it wouldn't work.
post #251 of 5568
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Originally Posted by b_scott View Post


I know this is AVS and all, but even on here I wonder how many users actually have 7.1 setups. I can't in my current living room, it wouldn't work.

I have but it doesn't bother me if it's 5.1.
post #252 of 5568
I have two extra speakers and a receiver with 7.1, but there is no way to do it. Since the extra two should be directly behind and my couch is against the wall - plus the two back sides would be in the middle of the floor, haha.
post #253 of 5568
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

I have but it doesn't bother me if it's 5.1.

Oh, it bothers me... it bothers me.

I love well-done 7.1 mixes. They even included the 7.1 theatrical mixes of Megamind, Toy Story 3, and Tangled on Blu. These weren't even home theater remixes from the sound stems, but for the Dolby 7.1 format at certain commercial theaters. They sound fantastic!!
post #254 of 5568
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Originally Posted by b_scott View Post

I have two extra speakers and a receiver with 7.1, but there is no way to do it. Since the extra two should be directly behind and my couch is against the wall - plus the two back sides would be in the middle of the floor, haha.

Time to pull out the handy-dandy sledgehammer and knock down a wall!
post #255 of 5568
well, Gods and Generals EE is two 50GB discs and 3:49 I think:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...nandscathed-20

So I have no doubt LOTR EE will be as well.
post #256 of 5568
Buying for today i only require 5.0 but i would like the discs to have 7.1 just in case i end up with a 7.1 system in the future. if its there and i dont use it then that is fine, but if i dont have it that leaves me with no choices in the future.
post #257 of 5568
well, you will have choices, just not all choices. You can always double the side left and right to the back left and right. Or some receivers do a decent job of faking it.
post #258 of 5568


I haven't purchased this many DVDs since about 2007 or so.
post #259 of 5568
well there you go. So, 6 BDs = 2 per movie.
post #260 of 5568
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Originally Posted by Thunderbolt8 View Post

maybe they are splitting the movies over 2 discs with 26GB each

That would seriously not surprise me one bit.
WB not going out of their way to make compression worse would be a first.
post #261 of 5568
According to http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...y_Details/6532

The collection reportedly will also consist of 15 discs (6 Blu-rays, 9 DVDs) with 1080p video, DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 soundtracks, and all of the supplements found on previous editions (most of which will be found on the included DVDs).

Supplements include: Audio Commentaries (multiple tracks for each film); Easter Eggs: MTV Movie Award Spoof (The Council of Elrod), MTV Movie Awards clip (Gollum accepting award); Costa Botes Documentaries: The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, The Return of the King: Behind the Scenes (on DVD); The Appendices (on DVD): Part 1: From Book to Vision; The Appendices: Part 2: From Vision to Reality; The Appendices: Part 3: The Journey Continues; The Appendices: Part 4: The Battle for Middle Earth; The Appendices: Part 5: The War of the Ring; The Appendices: Part 6: The Passing of an Age; Sixteen cast members, including Elijah Wood, Sean Astin, Andy Serkis, John Rhys-Davies, Orlando Bloom, Christopher Lee, Bernard Hill, and Miranda Otto; and online digital copies.

This seems to suggest the MTV/Costa Botes Documentaries bonus materials could be HD on Blu-ray discs. Question if the MTV bonus materials take up 3 of the Blu-ray discs, or they are sharing the same BD movie discs.

For the 9 DVD discs, we know 6 of the DVD discs are recycled from the DVD Extended Edition. Digital Copy is download only. What are the rest of the 3 DVD discs for? If MTV/Costa Botes bonus materials aren't in HD, then they could be the other 3 DVD discs And the movies will be 2 BD/movie.

As for those who said EE on Blu-ray is too expensive, that's always expected from the TE on Blu-ray retail price.

Like Blade Runner 5-disc BD edition, Warner Bros seem to be lazy or getting cheap in recycle the old DVD bonus materials discs. 5-disc Runner on BD could have been easily packed onto 3 BD discs. The DVD extras can fit onto one BD disc with the Workprint.

The 9 DVD discs on EE on BD can be easily condensed to 2-3 BD discs. But for marketing, having more discs can justify selling at higher price. Does Warner Bros ever asked why EE on BD needs to so many discs with Blu-ray technology.
post #262 of 5568
Let get real everybody. All we really want is top notch audio & video from this box set. Or at least fix the problems from the TE versions.
post #263 of 5568
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Originally Posted by Vortex3D View Post

According to http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...y_Details/6532

The collection reportedly will also consist of 15 discs (6 Blu-rays, 9 DVDs) with 1080p video, DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 soundtracks, and all of the supplements found on previous editions (most of which will be found on the included DVDs).

Supplements include: Audio Commentaries (multiple tracks for each film); Easter Eggs: MTV Movie Award Spoof (The Council of Elrod), MTV Movie Awards clip (Gollum accepting award); Costa Botes Documentaries: The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, The Return of the King: Behind the Scenes (on DVD); The Appendices (on DVD): Part 1: From Book to Vision; The Appendices: Part 2: From Vision to Reality; The Appendices: Part 3: The Journey Continues; The Appendices: Part 4: The Battle for Middle Earth; The Appendices: Part 5: The War of the Ring; The Appendices: Part 6: The Passing of an Age; Sixteen cast members, including Elijah Wood, Sean Astin, Andy Serkis, John Rhys-Davies, Orlando Bloom, Christopher Lee, Bernard Hill, and Miranda Otto; and online digital copies.

Before I am accused of jumping on you, I will preface my post by acknowledging that you are posting from HighFiDigest ...

This is more speculative pooh. "Reportedly" bah! we can do that good. IMO, this casts doubt on everything they seem to be stating as fact.

Jeff
post #264 of 5568
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Originally Posted by b_scott View Post

Or some receivers do a decent job of faking it.

This is what Prologic IIx does, IIRC. When I've done pink noise ball tests, the ball has rotated pretty well from side to rear speakers. Not as good as 7.1 discreet, but acceptable.
post #265 of 5568
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post


I cant do the ROTK in one sitting anymore it's way too long, especially when I watch my movies at night once all are asleep.

I'll be doing an all day session of all 3 movies when I get them. I've done it once before, long haul though. :-)
post #266 of 5568
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Originally Posted by curlyjive View Post

Only 5.1 DTS-MA?????? I hope this is incorrect, as even the TE had 6.1

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...y_Details/6532

This was already talked about, the flag should still be there it is a matrixed channel...
post #267 of 5568
DVDs, seriously? For $120?

They are really making it easy for me to wait for the ultimate box that is probably already in the works...........
post #268 of 5568
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Originally Posted by Kazz063

I'll be doing an all day session of all 3 movies when I get them. I've done it once before, long haul though. :-)
I'll need a good dosage of coffee Kazza to do that.
post #269 of 5568
Dts hd master 5.1 only darn it
post #270 of 5568
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Originally Posted by pghflyer View Post

DVDs, seriously? For $120?

They are really making it easy for me to wait for the ultimate box that is probably already in the works...........


As for the ultimate box, that will probably be post-Hobbit films. So figure Spring or Summer 2014...longer if Hobbit gets the extended treatment. I don't have that kind of patience.
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