New 2.35:1 Silver Fire screen project. - Page 2

Thanks a bunch MM.

I just saw the post about SF V2. I'm assuming that if one has the Liquitex Matt basics and 8oz Delta bottles on hand (which I do), there is no reason to bother with V2?

So there I was, happy as a clam with plans to spray a SF 3.0 LF screen, when what to my wandering eyes did appear? Why yes, the rumored, ballyhooed Silver Fire V2!

Unconcerned was I, safe in the knowledge that the impetus behind Version 2 was the limited availability of the Matt basics ingredients, which I have already obtained.

Until. In the description of Silver Fire Version 2 graciously supplied by two Jedi masters who continue to instruct all the padewan learners here in the construction of our lightsab., I mean screens; two phrases leapt off the screen. The words increased gain, and more/added translucency jumped up and hit me right between the eyes.

Holy Home Theater! More of the two things that are guaranteed (in my addled brain, anyway) to enhance the benefits of spraying Silver Fire on mirror. One more step to real blacks on a front screen while preserving pop, brightness and color saturation without turning the room into a cave.

Well, that makes it a done deal. In for a penny, in for a pound, as they say. Especially since the additional paint could cost me as little as $23. I spend more than that on a Friday night dinner.

So, if a Silver Fire V1 3.0 screen were ideal for my purposes, what would be the ideal blend of V2 be? Silver Fire Version2 3.5? 4.0?

Enquiring minds want to know. Or, at the very least this one does.

Roger Wilco. Don't forget to soak up sun and sand!

Heineken huh. I know this is a cliche, but honestly nothing refreshes me on a beach or in the heat like Corona with a twist of lime. ............Could I possibly be any more off topic on my own thread?

That's where good FME practices come in.

Tiger Ale. No joy when I googled it. Is that a Ringo reference?

If you like good brews, and you're not afraid of the dark, Young's Double Chocolate Oatmeal Stout is heaven in a mug!

Haven't mixed or painted yet, and I just saw a reference to the SF V2 HG mix. I got excited (again) when I saw MM reference a SF V2 HG 4.0 mix with a gain of about 2! Which sounds even better for me on its face.

On reflection though , I wonder if it is even worthwhile to use the HG mix when I will be spraying on a mirror?

Any thoughts?

Say MississippiMan (or anyone else with first hand knowledge), I have the proverbial stupid question.

I am finally beginning screen construction, and I noticed something about the mirror. In addition to the paper that is on the mirror side for protection of the front surface, there is heavier brown paper on the backside of the mirror. I have tested the mirror piece that was cut off and found that this paper can be removed as well, although not as easily as I have seen MississippiMan remove the paper from the front side in his videos.

I am assuming that this paper needs to be removed from the back side before I glue it to the Sintra, as it seems to me that not doing so could lead to the mirror peeling off the paper which would be glued to the Sintra. However, knowing what can happen when one assumes, I prefer to seek a more informed opinion.

Am I right in my semi-educated guess that there is nothing to be gained (damn, I punned again) in using the SF V2 HG mix instead of the standard SF V2 for the mirror light fusion screen I am making?

I am an idiot.

I looked at the Silver Fire V2 HG mix, saw the elevated levels of silver in the Base, and MISSED ALTOGETHER the last line that said use only .75 oz of colorant.

Say it with me.

I am an idiot.

Sigh. I almost didn't post this at all. After all the information and advise I got preparing for this last year, I feel more than a little guilty asking for so much as the time of day from MM or Pbmaxx (or anyone else) after never following through with this back then.

Things came to a halt for a variety of reasons last year, which I will not go into as they are both relevant to no one else and in some cases are a little pathetic.

I have tried to catch up on the advances of the SF formula, and I HAVE acquired the new ingredients listed for SF V2.5. However, I have been unable to resolve a couple of questions in my reading as it applies to this project.

The issue is the formula. The Silver Fire V 2.5 formula listed at the beginning of the "Silver Fire" thread (NOT at the beginning of the "Official Silver Fire V2.5" thread) compared to what I was about to spray, uses a smaller amount of the Minwax polycrylic, and mandates variable amounts of the reflective components based of the hue of SF V2.5 one intends to spray.

It appears that the purpose of the reduced Minwax quantity in the mix is to combat sheen, and it seems that would also apply when it is sprayed on a mirror, which I am still doing. So barring recommendations to the contrary, I will be using the new Minwax concentration in my mix.

I have NOT found any references to spraying a mirror with the latest formula that addresses the variable amounts of reflective components in the mix. Since the purpose of using a mirror is that some of the projected light penetrate the surface paint to the mirror and reflect back (and higher reflective components in the mix will reduce that factor), it isn't clear to me if the new formula for darker hues should be followed if one is spraying a mirror.

So MM/PBmaxx, in the SF 2.5 mix, do I follow the greater reflective component amounts in the formula for a SF 4.0 or 5.0 mix to be applied to a mirror? Or one of the lessor amounts listed for lighter hues like SF 2.0 or 3.0?

And is SF 4.0 or 5.0 still the recommendation for this purpose using V 2.5 as it was for V 2.0 with the projector close, and bulb on high?

With apologies for any of your time you choose to use reading and answering this,

Thanks guys