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post #151 of 158
What to know what shows have bad jitter. Try Amazing Stories and Miami Vice. They give me a headache watching it.
post #152 of 158
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Originally Posted by Rinzwind View Post

Why wont Netflix do anything about these horrible camera panning encoding issues? I watch Neflix with an Apple TV connected with hdmi to a Panasonic plasma tv. The stuttering/not smooth camera panning effect is seen everywhere. It goes like chuck chuck chuck. But the severeness differs a lot. In Frasier and TNG for example its simply unwatchable for me. Seems like very strange stuff is going on (something like frames going back and forward fast). In recent shows and films its not that bad, but still too noticeable. Its simply not smooth. The effect is not seen on dvd/blu-ray releases. Is Netflix aware of this topic?

In their "Encoding for streaming" blog entry (posted November 2008), Netflix mentions this:
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One class of sources has been derived from 24fps film, interlaced to i60 for TV broadcast, and then decimated to p30, and comes with restrictions on reprocessing. This results in frames that are even-odd interlaces of adjacent film frames, and a 4/5 cadence motion jerkiness. We are actively working to re-acquire these sources in better form.

I notice that both Frasier and ST: TNG are 30 fps (most stuff is 24 fps). Maybe their sources were like that and they couldn't get any better.
post #153 of 158

^^Which begs the question, why they can't simply pull a dvd off the shelf and create a judder free encode in the first place?

post #154 of 158
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Originally Posted by Westly-C View Post

^^Which begs the question, why they can't simply pull a dvd off the shelf and create a judder free encode in the first place?

I'd imagine that they have to use the source given them by the content providers and encode them with whatever restrictions they stipulate.
post #155 of 158
Played arround a bit with the apple tv output setting icm the walking dead ep 1. It does make a difference if I select 1080p 50hz. Its smoother but still a bit jumpy but not like tick tick tick. More like tick......tick. I prefer it to 1080p 60hz. Rather stupid issue...
post #156 of 158
This issue is doing my head in - hours wasted so far. I'm using Lovefilm Instant which also uses Silverlight.

The quick first question is this: I've read lots of threads where people say "right click" or "press CTRL+SHIFT+S" to access stream manager to change the settings. IT DOESN'T WORK!

It seems that people have some success using "stream manager" in Silverlight 5.0 and below, but since 5.1 I can't find anyone whose managed to access the advanced menu - just hundreds of people asking the same question as me.

I've tried it with hardware acceleration on and off, I've tried it full screen and windowed, I've tried it at native resolution as well as 600x800. Every single time, the jerkyness happens at almost exactly the same points in a pan, but it's not a regular stutter like 24fps pulldown. It might be fine for 1.5 seconds then judder for 10 frames, it might stutter for a frame twice in one second.

My PC, laptop and girlfriend's Macbook can ALL play other full HD content smoothly and without issue, the PC doesn't even struggle with Youtube 4k videos, and I don't have this trouble with any other non-Silverlight provider. Flash, mp4 etc - it all plays perfectly smoothly.

Seems pointless emailing Lovefilm because the many others that have say all the things they've tried, including clearing cookies and cache and updating and trying different browsers. Then after 4 weeks they just get a standard answer like "please clear your cookies" or some other nonsense.

SO many people are having this same problem, yet Lovefilm, Netflix, and also the MSPs in the Microsoft forum, just keep pretending it's not an issue.
post #157 of 158
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Originally Posted by digitaltoast View Post

This issue is doing my head in - hours wasted so far. I'm using Lovefilm Instant which also uses Silverlight.

The quick first question is this: I've read lots of threads where people say "right click" or "press CTRL+SHIFT+S" to access stream manager to change the settings. IT DOESN'T WORK!

That works in the PC Netflix players (web player and Win8 app). It's CTRL-SHIFT-ALT-S.

I thought that Lovefilm was an Amazon product, not Netflix? Kind of off-topic; you should open a new thread.
post #158 of 158

The CTRL+SHIFT+ALT+S trick I believe, works for Netflix only, not Lovefilm.

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