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post #31 of 158
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Originally Posted by TheAnswer_03 View Post

Didn't you recently buy a 65S2? How many tv's do you have? lol

Yes,, I recently purchased the 65" S2 (great TV) but I have a friend that wants to buy it if I decide to sell it to get the ST30 but I have to decide sooner than later as the buyer might not wait much longer.

I still have my 55" LED Vizio as a back-up if needed.

One other idea Im considering,, keeping the S2 and getting a passive 3D LG or Vizio,,, while at CES I found I like passive 3D more than active.

But to be fair I did not check out Panasonic's "claimed" improvment with their active 3D,,, Im kicking myself in the ass for that one,,,,I really should have took the time to check out the 3D on the new Pannys.

One of the main reasons Im interested in the ST30 is I want a 3D panel in the house, I hate to buy a passive panel just for the 3D but thats what it might come down too.

There are some other considerations as well, but thats the short version.

Cheers
Davyo
post #32 of 158
Thread Starter 
I think you are the first person Ive seen that said they liked passive better. Im a little turned away by the decrease in resolution to 540p on passive tech.
post #33 of 158
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

I think you are the first person Ive seen that said they liked passive better. Im a little turned away by the decrease in resolution to 540p on passive tech.

Actually I've seen more than a few postings on AVS from other members that liked passive more than active.

As far as 540p on passive, thats a strongly debated subject, it can also be said that with active your still not getting full HD as each eye is only seeing half the image at a time, but all that is being talked about on the 3D threads here and I dont want to see this thread get derailed so I will shut my pie-hole about passive vs active.

Anyhow, while I do like passive better I am not against buying an active 3D panel, hence my interest in the ST30.

Cheers
Davyo
post #34 of 158
Thread Starter 
Ive not seen passive, or a lot of 3D tech, so Id like to check it out. Need to see if anyone has any good demo's going. The last store I was in had a nice Samsung display, but the glasses were gone. Blurry images looked nice though...
post #35 of 158
Looking for prices on 60st30 and 60gt30?
Thanks,

Edit: Just noticed I joined in March 2007 and this is my very 1st post. Crazy!
post #36 of 158
Thread Starter 
Will send you a PM.
post #37 of 158
I also have not seen passive yet in person either but so far i do like the pannys 3dwith the active shutter. and they say the 3d is a lot better on the new pannys.so i think we are in for a treat
post #38 of 158
Looks like the only real difference between th G and the S is the absence of THX on the S. Likewise, looks like the only real difference between the V and the G (apart from aesthetics of the housing and whether a pair of glasses is included or not) is an additional filter that results in the addition of "pro" to the Infinite Black nomenclature. Does this mean that the phosphors are equally the same on all three series? Since it looks like Best Buy may not be getting the VT30 series (and for me that is currently the only viable source due to shipping issues) I'm really hoping that the difference in picture quality between the VT30 and GT series is minimal.
post #39 of 158
Thread Starter 
The VT30 is a completely different panel. IIRC, last year the VT25 and G25 shared a panel, and the S2 was all by itself. This year the VT30 is it's own panel, and the GT and ST share one.
post #40 of 158
On the GT30 specs, it shows that 3D glasses are included.

Additional spec's for Panasonic's GT30 series:
3D 24p Cinema Smoother
THX® Certified Display
600Hz Sub-field Drive
Moving Picture Resolution 1080 Lines
VIERA Connect with Wi-Fi (Wireless LAN Adaptor Included)
3D Image Viewer (Photo and Video)
DLNA
VIERA Link
USB Terminals
Game Mode
PC Input
Energy Star 4
FULL HD 3D with 3D Eyewear Included Mercury and Lead Free Panel
Long Panel Life, Up to 100,000 Hours
post #41 of 158
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post
The VT30 is a completely different panel. IIRC, last year the VT25 and G25 shared a panel, and the S2 was all by itself. This year the VT30 is it's own panel, and the GT and ST share one.
That is what I inititially thought too, but maybe it is simply semantics since adding the additional or different filter would of and in itself constitute a "different panel?" Of greater concern to me is whether there is any difference in the phosphors as it had been contended there was between the VT25 and G series last year. I see the specs for all three 2011 series talk about brighter display and longer retention which I'm hoping means the purported 30% increase in brightness and the improved black level issues are the same across the board for all three series.
post #42 of 158
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Originally Posted by tubayj View Post
On the GT30 specs, it shows that 3D glasses are included.

Additional spec's for Panasonic's GT30 series:
3D 24p Cinema Smoother
THX® Certified Display
600Hz Sub-field Drive
Moving Picture Resolution 1080 Lines
VIERA Connect with Wi-Fi (Wireless LAN Adaptor Included)
3D Image Viewer (Photo and Video)
DLNA
VIERA Link
USB Terminals
Game Mode
PC Input
Energy Star 4
FULL HD 3D with 3D Eyewear Included Mercury and Lead Free Panel
Long Panel Life, Up to 100,000 Hours
I noticed that, plus the fact that the Wireless LAN Adaptor is included for both the G and VT30 series. (Maybe the S too, but I didn't check,) Since the pre-order site is offering a "free" wireless LAN Adaptor does that mean you end up getting two?
post #43 of 158
Is the 50GT30 really worth almost 2x the price of the GT25? There's another thread about the 50GT25 available from Fry's at about half the price.
post #44 of 158
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Originally Posted by zacster View Post
Is the 50GT30 really worth almost 2x the price of the GT25? There's another thread about the 50GT25 available from Fry's at about half the price.
I'd guess not but you never know for sure. We need to wait for reviews/impressions to get a definitive answer.
post #45 of 158
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Originally Posted by zacster View Post
Is the 50GT30 really worth almost 2x the price of the GT25? There's another thread about the 50GT25 available from Fry's at about half the price.
What is the list price for the 50GT30?

Some vendors are blowing out the remaining GT25 models at rediculously low prices.
post #46 of 158
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post
What is the list price for the 50GT30?

Some vendors are blowing out the remaining GT25 models at rediculously low prices.
Sending you a PM. Dont wanna violate any rules...
post #47 of 158
Can someone PM me price too for 50GT30
post #48 of 158
Thread Starter 
Sent ya a message.
post #49 of 158
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

Sending you a PM. Dont wanna violate any rules...

Well MSRP is allowed on AVS, unless you're talking about someone else's rules

PM? Thanks for the heads up. I rarely ever look at my PM box anymore so i'm afraid of what i'll find waiting for me there
post #50 of 158
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

Well MSRP is allowed on AVS, unless you're talking about someone else's rules

PM? Thanks for the heads up. I rarely ever look at my PM box anymore so i'm afraid of what i'll find waiting for me there

Haha. It's not the first I sent ya!!

Not sure on MSRP yet, just a preorder price.
post #51 of 158
The current asking prices from one vendor for the GT30 series are approximately:

TC-P50GT30 $1,800
TC-P55GT30 $2,000
TC-P60GT30 $2,600
TC-P65GT30 $3,300


Larry
post #52 of 158
The current asking prices from one vendor for the ST30 series are approximately:

TC-P42ST30 $1,000
TC-P46ST30 $1,300
TC-P50ST30 $1,400
TC-P55ST30 $1,800
TC-P60ST30 $2,400
TC-P65ST30 $3,000


Larry
post #53 of 158
Here is the MSRP list for last year's 2010 models. These were announced in April of 2010:

TC-P42C2 MSRP was $599
TC-P46C2 MSRP was $699
TC-P50C2 MSRP was $799

TC-P42U2 MSRP was $799
TC-P50U2 MSRP was $1099

TC-P42S2 MSRP was $899
TC-P46S2 MSRP was $1099
TC-P50S2 MSRP was $1299
TC-P54S2 MSRP was $1599
TC-P58S2 MSRP was $1999(?)
TC-P65S2 MSRP was $2799

TC-P50G20 MSRP was $1499
TC-P54G20 MSRP was $1999

TC-P42G25 MSRP was $1199
TC-P46G25 MSRP was $1399
TC-P50G25 MSRP was $1499
TC-P54G25 MSRP was $1999

TC-P50VT20 MSRP was $2499
TC-P50VT25 MSRP was $2599
TC-P54VT25 MSRP was $2999
TC-P58VT25 MSRP was $3399
TC-P65VT25 MSRP was $4399


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=5444
post #54 of 158
Wow. Prices are better than I thought they would be. I would think the 65" GT30 would dip at/just below $2000 by fall of this year. That is exciting!

The S1 50" MSRP was the same as the ST-30 of the same size. That may hit $899-$999 by this fall. Pretty good for a nice 3D plasma.
post #55 of 158
ElwayLite,

Please send me any and all prices you have.

Thank you.
post #56 of 158
i also saw the GT30 specs, it shows that 3D glasses are included.
BUT AS OF NOW NO 3D glasses are included with this tv i called up the place
and the lady said that the gt30 dont come with the 3D glasses. but this might change she said
post #57 of 158
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite
Will send you a PM.
Any chance you could PM me as well on those? Passed up the 2010 models so need to upgrade, 50" just doesn't cut it anymore.
post #58 of 158
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by tazz3 View Post

i also saw the GT30 specs, it shows that 3D glasses are included.
BUT AS OF NOW NO 3D glasses are included with this tv i called up the place
and the lady said that the gt30 dont come with the 3D glasses. but this might change she said

G series only comes with wifi dongle, VT comes with dongle and pair of glasses, ST comes with the wifi dongle, per the Panny global site.

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Originally Posted by lifevicarious View Post

Any chance you could PM me as well on those? Passed up the 2010 models so need to upgrade, 50" just doesn't cut it anymore.

Just did.
post #59 of 158
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Originally Posted by ElwayLite View Post

G series only comes with wifi dongle, VT comes with dongle and pair of glasses, ST comes with the wifi dongle, per the Panny global site.



Just did.

Could you also PM me the prices?
post #60 of 158
At this point, might be best to see a post with these preorder prices(probably the same or near MSRP anyway). All these posts asking for PMs arent contributing anything to the thread.
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