I don't think anyone really disagrees with your notion below?!Is the PB13 a better subwoofer than the VTF-15H, IMO, yes. Is it worth twice the cost of the HSU? IMO, no. Most would likely benefit from the FR smoothing that dual subwoofers would provide in-room.
What is curious though is that you have multiple people here -- and other's I've met (who are tinkerers and have some a/b experience with several subs) saying that they couldn't really get the SVS to sound the way they wanted for music. How do you quantify that in measurements?
You say the sound of the SVS is totally dependant on room and competence of the person setting it up. I had avsforum memeber counsil, luke kamp, carp, and kcnitro07, as well as several other non avsforum friends come over to play with the SVS subs. We moved them around, we played different stuff - we messed with crossover points. I had them for two months.
Subjective it is - but I wouldn't buy another pair of SVS PB13 Ultra subs because I wasn't impressed with them during music listening.Steve1981,
Subwoofers aren't as sensitive to a couple inches of placement in frequency response. Often frequencies below 50hz won't change much at all with several feet of movement in a big room as verified lots of times in lots of room with my omnimic real time analyzer. Frequencies above 50hz do change a lot with several feet, but still not much with a couple inches.
As to your point about the SVS being the more technically accurate subs -- that may be true. It has been noted in a few threads I've read over the years around here that some people actually prefer distortion sound in their subwoofer. Heck - what large venue PA system doesn't have distortion built into the audio. I'd be willing to admit I probably like some distortion in my audio. I loved the Yamaha CW218V for music (much more than the SVS PB13 Ultras I had at the same time) and it was a big double 18" PA Sub tuned to 35hz. Don't tell me that didn't have some measurable distortion levels.
That said I most loved my jamo d7 subs for music and they were servo controlled 15"s with low distortion and a flat frquency response so.......
The characteristic I didn't like about the svs is yet undetermined.Edited by Archaea - 8/28/12 at 4:49pm