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post #31 of 420
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Originally Posted by sean_w_smith View Post

I was just reading that and unfortunately there is only a tethered jailbreak at this point for the ATV2 using 4.1.1 firmware (which is really IOS 4.2.1, confusing arg).

Here's the link to the tethered jail break...

http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=13581

good news here is that the untether jail break for 4.2.1 has been done. The author is waiting for the Verizon release before releasing it. So within the next month. This tethered jailbreak should no longer be required....

Its a pain in A&^ for the time being.

Sean

This is the only thing stopping me from picking one up after work today.
I only have windows PC's and am not sure I would be able to jailbreak it.
post #32 of 420
Would this work for the people who are picking them up today that are on 4.2.1, that require a windows box


http://www.shoutpedia.com/jailbreak-...le-tv-2g-7310/
post #33 of 420
The current rumor is that Apple will be switching all of their products, currently based on the A4 chip to the new A5 chip later this year. This chip has a dual core GPU and supposedly runs 1080P content like butter.

So, personally for me, I will hold off and see what happens when the next Apple TV refresh happens and see if it is worth getting one to use XBMC on at that point.
post #34 of 420
Aside from the tethered jailbreak issue (hopefully fixed soon), I have one other potential roadblock to switching over to the ATV2. My primary TV is an older (but still quite serviceable) widescreen rear projection set. It does not have any HDMI inputs, but it does have DVI. I'm fairly sure it's not HDCP compliant. I'm wondering if anybody knows if the ATV2 with XBMC will work with an HDMI to DVI cable, and if the signal is HDCP protected.
post #35 of 420
Can XBMC on the iOS devices play DVD ISOs with full menus?
post #36 of 420
Untethered 4.2.1 jailbreak "coming soon" video released:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5qNray7FHU
post #37 of 420
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by JaremyP View Post

Can XBMC on the iOS devices play DVD ISOs with full menus?

Can't imagine why it wouldn't...

Sean
post #38 of 420
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Originally Posted by candre23 View Post

Aside from the tethered jailbreak issue (hopefully fixed soon), I have one other potential roadblock to switching over to the ATV2. My primary TV is an older (but still quite serviceable) widescreen rear projection set. It does not have any HDMI inputs, but it does have DVI. I'm fairly sure it's not HDCP compliant. I'm wondering if anybody knows if the ATV2 with XBMC will work with an HDMI to DVI cable, and if the signal is HDCP protected.

i believe with hidef sources, your display would have to be HDCP compliant for the ATV2 to work.
post #39 of 420
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Originally Posted by JaremyP View Post

Can XBMC on the iOS devices play DVD ISOs with full menus?

DVD isos not working right now according to xbmc forums...dev said 'soon'
post #40 of 420
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

Untethered 4.2.1 jailbreak "coming soon" video released:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5qNray7FHU

Dont see anything on the AppleTV devices.. just all "i" devices
post #41 of 420
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Originally Posted by dan4081 View Post

Thats the same cable my Android Phone and Kindle 3 use, so many people probably already have one handy.

My Kindle 2 uses it as well and worked just fine to jailbreak my ATV2. I then installed the Plex client on it. They are up to version 0.6.6 . The Plex Media Server has to be running somewhere and it plays just like my Plex Clint on my Mini and iPad. Really quite impressive. In particular, it will play EyeTV HD recordingings directly from the EyeTV archives, which avoids having to export those. It does not yet respect comskip markings so you have to compactify your shows if you don't want to see ads. No big deal, it's very fast and can be automated though I don't yet trust comskip enough to do that.

I am on a wired network with the ATV2. The quality of 720p files is great. It does decode 1080p though of course the ATV2 outputs that at 720p.

I have yet to jailbreak my ATV2 living wirelessly. One at a time as the process is a bit tricky for those of us on 4.2.1 as it requires a tethered boot. The jail breaking part is easy. The tethered boot part seems to work in different ways for different setups.

From the Plex client you have access to music, photos, etc ... Living in your iTunes and iPhoto collections. The Plex Media Server will handle content from multiple locations and add metadata. It's really very neat.

For what it's worth, LG is coming out with a small low end smart TV upgraded box which will have the Plex client built in. That client will also be in their new Blu-Ray players, TV's.



Philip
post #42 of 420
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Originally Posted by pdawg17 View Post

At present it sounds like:

- only outputs 720p

- only stereo audio

- buffering issues with some 720p and 1080p content

I would jump on this setup as long as the devs could say that these issues CAN be solved at some point soon...especially the buffering as for my needs 1080p output and stereo audio are not problems (I would be putting this in a bedroom)...the question is whether the buffering issue is a hardware limitation (cpu can't keep up with transcoding, etc) or not...

Yes, only outputs 720p. That is an ATV2 hardware issue. As the ATV moves on to the A5 I assume that won't be an issue, but it is at this point.

Didn't notice any buffering issues with the Plex client and many have reported none with XBMC. I don't get buffering with XBMC on my ATV1G with a Crystal HD card, but some do. Networks can be very tricky that way.

Philip

Edit: Watched 3 hours of 720p video using XBMC on the ATV2. The GUI is still a bit sluggish, but playback was great with no stuttering, buffering, etc.... Really nice actually. At the moment I have Plex (client), XBMC and the usual ATV stuff including Netflix which works fine.
The jailbreak part of 4.2.1 using pwnage tool is very simple. After jailbreaking you have to tether boot the ATV. Have been trying a variety of ways and it really is pretty simple. The confusion usually happens when you enter DFU mode. That is easily done when the power is not plugged in. In fact I booted it that way using just the usb cable ( thus making DFU easy) and then plugged in the cable and hdmi and network. I am not using wireless so perhaps that is why I got away with it. Some people have said they lose wireless if they don't keep it plugged in for most of that process. There's an excellent You Tube video that takes you through it all ( but he manages to enter DFU with the power plugged in which I have never been able to do).

Connection via smb to a variety of NAS devices was no problem. XBMC works like it always has.

The ATV2 has just taken on a whole new character with XBMC. It's interesting. It's still well worth having a look at Plex.
post #43 of 420
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Originally Posted by pmcd View Post

Yes, only outputs 720p. That is an ATV2 hardware issue. As the ATV moves on to the A5 I assume that won't be an issue, but it is at this point.

Didn't notice any buffering issues with the Plex client and many have reported none with XBMC. I don't get buffering with XBMC on my ATV1G with a Crystal HD card, but some do. Networks can be very tricky that way.

Philip

Phillip, Sean asked you a question in post #26 that I was interested in also.

Thanks
post #44 of 420
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Originally Posted by dan4081 View Post

DVD isos not working right now according to xbmc forums...dev said 'soon'

Will it be able to play a DVD from my PC, if the DVD drive is shared?
post #45 of 420
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Originally Posted by sean_w_smith View Post

Its looks like seasonpass is Mac only at the moment...

seems that windows season pass is still in development...

Anyone know if there is a 4.2.1 jailbreak for windows...

http://support.firecore.com/entries/387605

Again, this should not be an issue shortly after Feb 10 when the Verizon iphone ships and they release the untethered jailbreak for the latest IOS's.

Question for phillip: once you hacked yours (untethered) I assume does it disable firmware updates so that the hack is not automatically erased. Unlike ATV1 I don't see a setting in the ATV2 to control auto firmware updates from apple.

Sean

I used a tethered jailbreak using pwnagetool. There doesn't seem to be a setting to prevent Apple from updating the ATV2 in the jailbreak. When I upgraded to 4.2.1 my ATV's did not upgrade without asking me. Perhaps there is some general setting in the ATV2 for that? My ATV1 would auto update until I blocked it.

Since ssh is available and you have root it shouldn't be much of an issue. The more important issue is the tethered boot part which for someone new to jailbreaking like me was the hardest part of the process. Once you do it, it's trivial. If seasonpass happens to work for you then it's all pretty simple.

Philip
post #46 of 420
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Originally Posted by JaremyP View Post

Can XBMC on the iOS devices play DVD ISOs with full menus?

Not yet. Soon they say.

Philip
post #47 of 420
Perhaps because I've only dabbled with XMBC I find it confusing (this applies to the ATV-1 instance too).

I can live with the pain of recovering from a system restore but I want to use Remote.app interact with my ATV.
post #48 of 420
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Originally Posted by sean_w_smith View Post

Instructions for jailbreak Windows:
htp://techngadgetz.com/jailbreak-iphone-ipad-ipod-touch-apple-tv-new-sn0wbreeze-2-1-ste-by-step-guide

I'm sure I'm not the only one a little lost on this process...
Where do we get the IPSW file needed?

And what if we're already on 4.2.1? It doesn't look like sn0wbreeze can do anything with IPSW files > 4.1
post #49 of 420
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Originally Posted by daniel.hunt View Post

I'm sure I'm not the only one a little lost on this process...
Where do we get the IPSW file needed?

And what if we're already on 4.2.1? It doesn't look like sn0wbreeze can do anything with IPSW files > 4.1

See the first post or read the original. Seas0nPass will automatically download and process the correct ipsw.
post #50 of 420
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Originally Posted by sean_w_smith View Post


Question for phillip: once you hacked yours (untethered) I assume does it disable firmware updates so that the hack is not automatically erased. Unlike ATV1 I don't see a setting in the ATV2 to control auto firmware updates from apple.

Sean

Once a new update for ATV2 comes out, you will get a pop up that ask you if you would like to update to the latest version. It actually nags you every chance it gets, but it will not automatically update you. I didn't see a way to turn this option off.

At any time, you can go into the Settings>General>Update Software to do a manual check for update.

-Daryoon
post #51 of 420
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Originally Posted by bodosom View Post

See the first post or read the original. Seas0nPass will automatically download and process the correct ipsw.

Ah now, what do you take me for? Of course I read the first post - I also double checked the original source, but as you can see from my quote, I'm looking for a Windows solution to this
post #52 of 420
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Originally Posted by daniel.hunt View Post

I also double checked the original source, but as you can see from my quote, I'm looking for a Windows solution to this

Unless you're running the previous release: per Firecore
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  1. Download Seas0nPass [Mac only - Windows version coming soon]

Since you're a little lost I'd suggest waiting until better tools are available for your platform.

If you have the previous release you can search for this file: AppleTV2,1_4.2_8C150_Restore.ipsw
post #53 of 420
Never considered jailbreaking my iPhone, so this is all new to me. Very interested in buying an ATV and installing XBMC (and/or Firecore's aTV Flash when it comes out) simply to use my NAS as a media repository without needing to have a full computer (a Mac) running and wasting power. Therefore, this "tethered boot" thing: Essentially, every time I restart the AppleTV I would need to have it hooked up to my laptop, right? As I understand it, if I wanted to do this now, rather than wait for an untethered option, I could simply leave the darn thing running until that option is available. Is that right?

And yeah, I realize it would marginally ding me in the electricity department (conflicting with my stated goal of no other boxes running full-time), but I would be willing to live with that short-term.

Thanks. An exciting day....
post #54 of 420
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Originally Posted by dvwtwo View Post

I could simply leave the darn thing running until that option is available. Is that right?

Yes but I don't think many people turn off the power.
post #55 of 420
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Yes but I don't think many people turn off the power.

Really? Huh.

Well, thanks - this is very helpful. Might go get myself one. Instructions look pretty darn simple.
post #56 of 420
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Originally Posted by SweetHip View Post


Dont see anything on the AppleTV devices.. just all "i" devices

They said the ATV2 version would be released shortly after. The tethered jailbreak is not that difficult and you can go forever without rebooting the ATV2.

Philip
post #57 of 420
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Originally Posted by dvwtwo View Post


Really? Huh.

Well, thanks - this is very helpful. Might go get myself one. Instructions look pretty darn simple.

The ATV2 uses very little power. I have never turned them off except to jailbreak one of them.

Philip
post #58 of 420
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Originally Posted by dvwtwo View Post

Never considered jailbreaking my iPhone, so this is all new to me. Very interested in buying an ATV and installing XBMC (and/or Firecore's aTV Flash when it comes out) simply to use my NAS as a media repository without needing to have a full computer (a Mac) running and wasting power. Therefore, this "tethered boot" thing: Essentially, every time I restart the AppleTV I would need to have it hooked up to my laptop, right? As I understand it, if I wanted to do this now, rather than wait for an untethered option, I could simply leave the darn thing running until that option is available. Is that right?

And yeah, I realize it would marginally ding me in the electricity department (conflicting with my stated goal of no other boxes running full-time), but I would be willing to live with that short-term.

Thanks. An exciting day....

atvflash is out in beta. You can buy it for $20. I have it but used ssh to install Plex. In a way it's nice to know what the process is.

Philip
post #59 of 420
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by SweetHip View Post

Dont see anything on the AppleTV devices.. just all "i" devices

They are virtually identical. the ATV2 is basically an ipad/iphone from both a HW and SW perspective.

Sean
post #60 of 420
I got all the way through the installation process and after I completed a successful tethered boot, disconnected the USB (as instructed) and hooked up the HDMI.

It was at that point that a graphic showed up on the TV instructing me to connect to iTunes. That was it. After a few mins, it went away and nothing happened.

Any thoughts folks?
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