Any Interest in Cheap "Flat Pack" Enclosures? - Page 3

I think if someone could come up with a high spl design from 12hz-80hz in a slim package(it would be very tall like the dts-10) using dual 12's or even 8's it would be popular. If cheap enough many could do multiples or even 4. Match that with a e-wave pack and people could get serious HT for little money.

Exactly! That is what I have been saying.

Pm sent Erich. I have a total of 4 large TH cabs that I want to build in the spring. A pair of 2 different designs that are both basically finished. I am in Louisville KY for pickup of the wood at the shop . Neither design would probably be practical for most other people unfortunately.

When you buy plans you can build it yourself, or have someone build it for you. This would amount to the same thing, buy the plans from me, get the kit from you. My authorized builders pay a franchise fee, and that allows them to build and sell cabs to the public without the buyer having to buy plans.

I'd be in for 2 of the Exodus 6.5 TH. Thanks Erich i've been interested in hearing more about this since you first mentioned it way back in lilmikes thread.

Plan owners can contract with anyone to build them a cab, or supply them with the necessary parts to build one.

The Shiva TH.

That was a typo on my part, it's actually three 4x8 sheets for the LP THT (the tall one).

Working on it - honest.....

Issue is folding it into the space I have.

Square cross sections are a challenge.

#1: Yes

#2: Would be OK but not sure if necessary, definitely not necessary if it increases the price.

#3: Just cut 1/16" deep to simply mark the 10 holes. Owner has to pick correct marks and drill their own.

#4: No access panel works for me.

#5: I figure anyone that can assemble this kit should have the skills to install there own terminals. This give the option to install binding posts, terminal cups or speakons in whatever location works best for the user.

I can go along with mj's answers as well.

This sounds perfect to me. Even with my temporary disability (broken wrist/cast) should be no problem to make a cutout for the terminal.

Wow, sounds like you found a great builder!!

As for the questions:

#1 - I don't think pre-drilled holes on the side panels are necessary. Since the grooves are already going to be carved in there, if someone wants to use screws then they'll just to drill a small hole every 4-6" inside the grooves. I was planning on using a brad nailer to hold the panels in place while it dries, but some will probably want to use screws. And if someone is taking on the task of assembling one of these, then they should be able to drill a few pilot holes for the screws. Also, no pre-drilled holes should keep the cost down.

#2 - See #1. I don't think it's necessary, especially if he's doing rabbet joints on the edges.

#3 - For the Anarchy, I like the idea of putting the punch marks and then let people drill the holes as necessary. But on the THT-LP there are a few different drivers that can be used, so probably no pre-marked holes for that one. Just let each person decide what driver they're going to use and drill the holes accordingly.

#4 - Agree with the rest, no access panel necessary on the Anarchy. And the THTLP doesn't require one, as the bottom of the sub itself is the access panel.

#5 - Let each person decide what they want to do for terminals.

As for rabbet joints on the corners (edges), that would definitely be necessary if he's routing recessed grooves for the interior panels because otherwise the side panels would be too wide if you just butt-joined them together (unless he cut them narrower to compensated for the grooves). He'll just need to use a simple rabbet joint on the edges equal to the depth of the CNC grooves for the interior panels.

And I personally think making the CNC grooves to the exact thickness of the plywood would be ideal, rather than leaving some "slop". That way they the pieces can be tapped into place to ensure a perfect fit and alignment. If there's any slop/play in the grooves then it'll make things a little more difficult to get aligned correctly. Just my $.02, but then again I've never built a sub cabinet before.

And is he going to do CNC grooves on both side panels, or is he just going to do the one panel? I think it would be great if they were both grooved, but that would obviously add to the cost. BUT, if he's doing rabbet joints on both side panels then he'll need to do CNC grooves to match. Otherwise he can just do no rabbet joints or CNC grooves on the last panel.

That's not what I'd want (I'm not getting this kit).

I assembled the DTS-10 kit, and even with fairly sloppy dados it was a bitch getting the final panel on.

I had to do it twice; I rounded over the edges of the male parts to help them get started, which I would highly recommend.

If you use something like PL adhesive, it will fill the slop.

Another issue is hydraulic lock - if the fit is too good, squeezing out excess adhesive could be really difficult.

The bond might set before that happens (if it even does), leaving bulges in the outer panels between the fasteners.

So why not kill two birds, oversize dados to ease assembly and allow squeezout, which will fill the gaps.

Along with the THT-LP, Anarchy TH, and lilmike's Shiva () I'd throw a vote for the vanilla 24" THT. I have the plans but haven't built, but personal motivation aside, that's a really popular configuration.

That is a popular design, but I think more people are going to have room for a THT LP than the original one due to the huge footprint.

That makes sense. Like I said, I've never built a sub cabinet before, just throwing out ideas!

That also works for me

Yep, sounds good. I think one goal is to make it as inexpensive as possible. So, the less machine work involved the better.

The axillary screw holes (if desired) for assembly can easily be drilled from the inside out along the channels (if routed).

Everyone has their own idea or requirement for terminal placement, etc.

If you do an Anarchy one I'd be more than willing to offer an "AVS Special" package for the TH builders. I'd suggest getting with Mike or Soho, GM etc.. ect... who have actually designed, built and measured some designs. I know lilmike's single design is solid... everyone seems to love it.

Sweet Kevin!

Did you have something in mind for a "special"?

This is spot on having put together 2 dts10 kits.

If you're going to flat pack something, I would design the enclosure around an easily and widely available subwoofer that won't go out of stock every few months, for weeks or months at a time.