Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs
So you don't want them to have a better colour space and higher frame rates for 4K for the Blu-ray 4K standard or for UHDTV broadcasts?
Did I say that?
I don't think I said that.
What I want and what the extremely slow moving film maker and broadcaster industry are doing are two very different things.
I want 8K and the widest possible colorspace, preferably 50 years ago.
Even if there are no current displays that can display Rec2020, they need to have a connector that supports it so that they can display content in that forma when TVs are made supporting itt. They can't just not upgrade anything because something else doesn't currently support that format or we'd never have things like 4K TV or other things.
I agree, but what I was alluding to was that by the time content producers get around to make and actually release for the home media market any content that has rec.2020, or at least DCI-P3, we will be on our next HDMI version and maybe on our next display.
Originally Posted by Chronoptimist
There may not be displays which cover 100% of the BT.2020 color space, but there are a number of wide gamut displays which can cover a large portion of BT.2020.
I am sure you find some Pro-Displays that do that, but even expensive PC monitors have problems with even displaying Adobe RGB 100%. Any HT projector or TV will have problems with displaying anything close to Rec.2020. They can't even display NTSC colors 100% mostly, and it is a reason for that.....cost.
Nothing changes with 4K other than avoiding the downconversion to 1080p.
First you have to make producers actually shoot in 4K, and release the content in 4K.
The way it is now, most movies are shot with either Alexa 2.8K camera or on 35mm film, non of which produces a real 4K image and have to be up-converted or over-scanned to be "called 4K".
Doesn't mean it is resolving 4K resolution.
Most 4K broadcasts in the next years will be shot on Sony F55, which people aren't very excited by, and maybe on a Panasonic 4K small.sensor broadcast camera that comes next year.
I'm not sure where you got this idea from - film is shot in the camera's native colorspace, which is typically very wide, and then converted down to DCI-P3 for theaters, and BT.709 for home release.
I was mostly pointing to 1080p as "good enough", but following a lot of discussion, there are a lot of rec.709 material being produced, but maybe not for cinema release features, but all the series for TV are rec.709, and I doubt anybody will go in and regrade this for P3 in the future just for expanding the color space.
A regular feature on the Reduser forum is still people championing that 2K is good enough, and that is a forum for a camera manufacturer that has never made a 2K camera.
So just imagine how it is out in the production industry where the 2K arguments win the day.
Still no Hollywood Studio that has set 4K as a minimum standard for feature releases, they don't even release 4K when they could.
Mostly only Sony that is releasing some few 4K features every year.
Best would be if TV and Movie content was produced in the same color space standard, but I believe that some Hollywood studios will protest.
Rec.2020 can as well be standing for the year 2020 when it come to any hope of seeing such wide colorspace be regularly used or used at all.