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I am not sure about more treatments. Once I get the server installed and i finish the transfer and the dvd racks are out of there, I will see if I can convince Craig to come back over and take some more measurments. I do have some ideas that I want to run by Craig and Dennis though. The 244 will absorb more then the 242, but I am sure that the 242 will work out for you just fine. The main part of your room is fully treated right? I may end up with no extra treatments. We shall see if it still measures well and sounds good.

Plus, I am still trimming the list. But as I look at what is on my shelf, I think a lot of it won't end up taking up much server space. I have a few DVD's that are old and only have prologic sound tracks so I am sure that they would not take up a lot of space. My plan is this, Do Bleach first. That really should not take up much space. That will probably be ony 80MB. Then the BR's. Then do seried like Band of Brothers, Homocide, Deadwood, and a number of others that have many episodes to them. After that, do my regular DVD's. As I do them, I will just make sure that I really want them on there. We shall see.
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I may end up with no extra treatments. We shall see if it still measures well and sounds good.

I reckon that will be the best way to go. Curious to see how it goes.
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Nope. I not only doing BR's. Most of my videos are regular DVD's. I am putting a lot of those on there as well. I have a lot of series and mini series that would work better on the server as opposed to me having to put in a disk for each season or episode of the show I want to watch. My main goal is to get all my DVD racks out of my room so it just looks cleaner. I have been narrowing down the videos I know I want on the server. I have taken about 30 out all ready. I will continue to look to see if there are anymore that don't have to be on there. This is going to a lot of fun.

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I noticed many members watch Tv series in there HT room, I have to admit Ive never done that. Everyone keeps talking about Games Of Thrones, have never seen it.
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I noticed many members watch Tv series in there HT room, I have to admit Ive never done that. Everyone keeps talking about Games Of Thrones, have never seen it.

You don't know what you're missing wink.gif

The second season just became available on Blu-ray. It has high quality audio, video and writing, much better in all ways than too many of the productions intentionally designed for the "big screen". It does take place in a fantasy, medieval setting, but there's little enough magic that even most of the characters don't believe in it.

One problem is that after spending so many hours with them, you really get to care about some of the characters. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
And then they're killed.

But read the dedicated threads for details.
post #515 of 541
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Game of Thrones is really good but very involving. The next season is starting in April. It will be so great when I can just pull up an Epiosde of Dead Wood or Band of Brothers or any other series like that and just start watching. I can't wait.
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Game of Thrones is really good but very involving. The next season is starting in April. It will be so great when I can just pull up an Epiosde of Dead Wood or Band of Brothers or any other series like that and just start watching. I can't wait.

Ill have to look into it one day.
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Hey Mike how have you been? Hope is all good in your side of the world.
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Hey Mike how have you been? Hope is all good in your side of the world.
All good over here smile.gif. I hope to have my server installed sometime this month. If not, oh well. But that is what I am shooting for. I just want to say again how much I like the 1027's. They really sound great for movies and music IMHO. I am sure your system still looks and sounds awesome. I know you are getting that calibration kit soon so that will be cool. But I am content with what I have(besides the small screen). I have a couple of tweaks that I will keep to myself for the future but unless I decide to step up a model down the road, I am probably done with speakers. Now if I can find an amp that is better then my Bryston, and can fit where I need it to go, that may be a change for the future. But right now it's just a day dream as I really don't have anything in mind. Right now I am just focused on the server. When I get it, and I spend some time with it, I am sure I will try and do some kind of right up on it. In the mean time, thanks for stopping in and saying hello and again, I hope your system is also going well.
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All good over here smile.gif. I hope to have my server installed sometime this month. If not, oh well. But that is what I am shooting for. I just want to say again how much I like the 1027's. They really sound great for movies and music IMHO. I am sure your system still looks and sounds awesome. I know you are getting that calibration kit soon so that will be cool. But I am content with what I have(besides the small screen). I have a couple of tweaks that I will keep to myself for the future but unless I decide to step up a model down the road, I am probably done with speakers. Now if I can find an amp that is better then my Bryston, and can fit where I need it to go, that may be a change for the future. But right now it's just a day dream as I really don't have anything in mind. Right now I am just focused on the server. When I get it, and I spend some time with it, I am sure I will try and do some kind of right up on it. In the mean time, thanks for stopping in and saying hello and again, I hope your system is also going well.

Im happy with my 1027BE unless something happens to them then I will change but for now there is no need, like with yours they are dialled in 100%. Honestly hang onto them, unless your after a different type characteristic in sound then go for it but for HT and music they should be more than efficient. I hope you get your server installed as I know you have been looking forward to it for quite awhile. Im looking forward in reading your impressions on it.

Take care
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Im happy with my 1027BE unless something happens to them then I will change but for now there is no need, like with yours they are dialled in 100%. Honestly hang onto them, unless your after a different type characteristic in sound then go for it but for HT and music they should be more than efficient. I hope you get your server installed as I know you have been looking forward to it for quite awhile. Im looking forward in reading your impressions on it.

Take care
The server might be getting setup on April 21st. It depends on every ones schedule. I think you know how much I like the 1027's. I have been a Focal fan since I heard them in my first high end dealer that I dealt with. I first bought the 927's. That was back in 2003 or 2004. Then I got the 1027's in 2006. I really like the sonic signature of the Focal speakers. And matched with the CC1000be and chorus surrounds, it really sounds very nice. If I ever were to "upgrade" I would probably stay in the Focal family. I will give an update on the sever once it is installed. One thing I don't think I mentioned is that I am also getting a tablet that we can configure as a universal remote. I am really looking forward to that as well.
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Im happy with my 1027BE unless something happens to them...

If you, for instance, happened to ship them to Washington, DC for safekeeping during your next vacation, but they accidentally got lost right before I ship them back biggrin.gif heh heh...
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If you, for instance, happened to ship them to Washington, DC for safekeeping during your next vacation, but they accidentally got lost right before I ship them back biggrin.gif heh heh...
Let's see if I can't get you an audition with them at some point that does not include you going to jail.... If you know what I mean smile.gif.
Edited by MIkeDuke - 4/4/13 at 10:49am
post #523 of 541
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For those still in here, the server has been setup for awhile and I am busy putting my own media on it. Dennis and Craig came over to help me set everything up. We had to move the Crowson signal to the SMS-1 so I could get an LFE signal. What that means is now the Crowson is tied to the MV. Not the ideal situation according to Craig, but it's what we had to do for me to be able to still use it. So now, the server. This is what I got:
http://www.baetisaudio.com/

I bought the HT version not the Revolution.(BTW Dennis is a dealer for these)

I will admit there is a learning curve with it and ripping in general. But Dennis has been great in walking me through any issues that I run into. I have put on at least 12-15 movies, Deadwood the complete series and some of my Bleach anime. I also put on The Stand mini series. Besides the movies, I put on about 20-25 cd's. I have been really busy just putting stuff on so I really haven't watched anything from beginning to end yet but I can tell by just the short clips that the SQ and PQ is really good. The SQ for CD's is just spectacular. This is not as "easy" as I hoped it would be. The end user still has to do work, Damn. But I have instructions now and I am getting the hang of it. But Dennis was nice enough to setup all the file structure for me that the server needs to run. It will take a bit longer then I thought, but it will be way worth it once everything I want is on there. Having it all at my finger tips is really cool. It's still easier then building your own server, at least I think it is. Plus, Jriver is really cool. It has picked up everything so far. So that's it for now. So far, so good on the server and I highly recommend it if you want a server that is small, quiet, and sturdy. Is it cheap, no. But in my mind, for someone who does not want to build one, or can't build one, I highly recommend it
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Hi Mike, good to see you have your server up and running. The movies you put on are DVD or BD?

I've read the info you have supplied, looks awesome. I noticed you can add HDD to the unit which is a plus or go NAS.

Question do you rip into server? Is there a PC involved ?

Congrats on the new server smile.gif
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Hey Frank. I have both DVD's and BR's on it. I miss quoted before. I actually have almost 30 total movies on there(plus the series and min-series). Yes, the whole idea is that you add external hard drives to it. I have two 4TB drives for my movies and any TV shows, and one 1.5TB drive for music. There is no PC involved at all. You can just connect a wireless keyboard and mouse and you are good to go. I think it has 8 USB ports for external storage. So that is quite a bit. It is cool to be able to just press a button and have the movie start. No previews, no picking the right audio, just press and watch. All of that other stuff is taken care of when you rip. You select what you want and leave the rest(during the ripping process). But it is a bit time consuming. BR's take about an hour and regular DVD's take about a 1/2 an hour. Then for series you have to name the episodes just right so the Jriver software will pick it up and give you the metadata for it. But it is really cool when it is all setup. You get a description of the show(or movie). If it's a TV show you get the year the episode came out and a little break down of what the episode is about. So yea, it's work, but I am glad I decided to do it.
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Hi Mike
Thanks for explanation of how system the runs, It certainly has my curiosity. Though I'm curious how is easy is it to rip blu rays? Does it have a raid system, just in case of problems and I know blu rays are getting harder to rip ( I've been told on PC they have to do updates on a particular software that handles the copyright bit ) do they offer updates?

Thanks
post #527 of 541
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I just want to make a few things more clear. These are disks that I personally own. I am not downloading anything from the web so it is basically a backup of my physical media. Also, not sure if I made this clear or not but the server DOES NOT come with any kind of ripping software already installed. It comes with the Jriver media center 18 software installed. I bought two pieces of software to do my ripping. The one for music is called dpPoweramp which is $38 and the one for movies is called MakeMKV which costs $50. Once you use the software a few times it becomes second nature.

Now Dennis is the person I bought this from. DMark1 on Avs. If you have any specific questions about it, you should contact him. You guys don't know how long I have been wanting to do something like this. When Dennis showed it to me I knew I would be getting one. He really has a very good knowledge about the server itself and the Jriver software. I have asked a lot of questions and Dennis has been able to answer every one. It really is a very power machine. Plus, the entire system, the server and HD's are very quiet. I can't even hear that they are on in the room if I have music on or watching a movie. You can setup a RAID system if you want to. So far I have not had any issues at all, even with some of the newer BR's. I am pretty sure Baetis does offer updates when they are warranted. As for ease of the rip itself, if I can do it, anybody can tongue.gif. There are just a few in between steps that have to be done but it's not that bad. Now as I said, I can't speak to the initial setup of the file structure of the machine because Dennis did that for me. It runs on a Windows platform. I think it's Windows 7. So if you can navigate a PC, you can navigate the back end of the sever. But I am sure it saved me time by him doing that back end file structure for me. I really like it and as I said before, I am really happy I did this.
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Slightly (or a LOT) OT, but Mike: Is your theater/listening room in a basement or on wooden floors?

I ask because the theater in my new home will be upstairs and am wondering if it will affect my ability to get the clean tight bass I have now. Do you have your sub on any kind of feet or stand or anything?

Thanks...
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Slightly (or a LOT) OT, but Mike: Is your theater/listening room in a basement or on wooden floors?

I ask because the theater in my new home will be upstairs and am wondering if it will affect my ability to get the clean tight bass I have now. Do you have your sub on any kind of feet or stand or anything?

Thanks...
My system is on the second floor. I don't know if it makes a difference with the SubMersive, but I have mine on a big Gramma platform. I have had no problems, besides room induced issues in getting really good bass. Now I am using XT32 and a SMS-1 to get it, plus it has been setup by Craig so that helps, but I don't think you should have any issue with getting great bass. Hell, RMK has dual Orbital Shifter subs on a second floor room and I think he is happy with the results. So I guess I am saying no, I don't think it will be an issue for you. You just have to setup the room like you would anyway regardless if it's on a second floor or not.
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I just want to make a few things more clear. These are disks that I personally own. I am not downloading anything from the web so it is basically a backup of my physical media. Also, not sure if I made this clear or not but the server DOES NOT come with any kind of ripping software already installed. It comes with the Jriver media center 18 software installed. I bought two pieces of software to do my ripping. The one for music is called dpPoweramp which is $38 and the one for movies is called MakeMKV which costs $50. Once you use the software a few times it becomes second nature.

No problems Mike, I have over 600+ BD which I also own and I was considering something like this. I will look into it a bit more and decide which way for me to go. Thanks for your help.
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Hey Mike, I'm glad you're all set up with the means to digitize your massive Bleach collection, and music as well. Trust me, once you finish all your importing (might take a few weeks), it's great to just kick back and enjoy the Jriver experience on a daily basis. cool.gif
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Originally Posted by audioguy View Post

Slightly (or a LOT) OT, but Mike: Is your theater/listening room in a basement or on wooden floors?

I ask because the theater in my new home will be upstairs and am wondering if it will affect my ability to get the clean tight bass I have now. Do you have your sub on any kind of feet or stand or anything?

Thanks...

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My system is on the second floor. I don't know if it makes a difference with the SubMersive, but I have mine on a big Gramma platform. I have had no problems, besides room induced issues in getting really good bass. Now I am using XT32 and a SMS-1 to get it, plus it has been setup by Craig so that helps, but I don't think you should have any issue with getting great bass. Hell, RMK has dual Orbital Shifter subs on a second floor room and I think he is happy with the results. So I guess I am saying no, I don't think it will be an issue for you. You just have to setup the room like you would anyway regardless if it's on a second floor or not.
Hi Chuck,

I have heard systems on the second floor where the suspended floor added significant tactile response. That tactile response was both enjoyable and beneficial. I've also heard systems on the second floor where the room gets so excited by the bass that it becomes a secondary sound source. The vibrations of the floor walls and ceiling change the sonic signature of the room. I suggest you investigate some of the sound isolation techniques, (double stud walls, double layers of drywall with green glue, etc. These will increase the "mass" of the room and reduce the resonances and vibrations. In addition, this will reduce sound transmission to the rest of the house, which has benefits of it's own. If you're in the construction phase, NOW is the time to address these issues.

Good luck! smile.gif

Craig
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Hey Mike, I'm glad you're all set up with the means to digitize your massive Bleach collection, and music as well. Trust me, once you finish all your importing (might take a few weeks), it's great to just kick back and enjoy the Jriver experience on a daily basis. cool.gif
Yea Matt, it's pretty cool. Having Bleach on there, with the correct metadata, is really cool. It will take me a few more weeks probably. I still have quite a few to do. But I am doing mainly the BR's now since they are the bigger files and they take the most time. I still have plenty of space left though so I am not worried about running out. I will say though that Jriver is not "perfect". There have been a few occasions where I had to go into the back end of Jriver, the big list of all the movies, and correct the cover art for a few movies. It got them completely wrong. But I figured out how to get the right covers so all is cool now.
post #534 of 541
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Chuck, I agree with Craig on what he says. I get a nice tactile feel in my room, probably because it is on the second floor. If I were building from scratch I would also do what Craig suggests about isolation because trust me, it will be an issue. Seal that room up as best as you can. My room is small and already built so I really can't do anything that would really help. Now I don't know if my room or walls resonate and have their own sound in the room but I do have pictures hanging up and I can hear them rattle sometimes. But it really doesn't bother me enough yet to take them down and I like having them in the room. But I know that if I wanted a serious room, they would have to go.
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No problems Mike, I have over 600+ BD which I also own and I was considering something like this. I will look into it a bit more and decide which way for me to go. Thanks for your help.
600 BR. WOW. That is way more than I have. I only have about 110 BR and about 350+ DVD's, I think. With that many BR's, you may have pick and choose which ones you really want on the server. I am not saying you shouldn't, or you can't put them all on, but with 600 BR it will take awhile(probably many months) and a lot of HD space. But if you are not in a rush, then by all means, go for it and put them all on smile.gif. I still have a number of BR's to do, and then I have a lot of regular DVD's to do. Good luck if you choose to do it.
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.... I will say though that Jriver is not "perfect". There have been a few occasions where I had to go into the back end of Jriver, the big list of all the movies, and correct the cover art for a few movies. It got them completely wrong. But I figured out how to get the right covers so all is cool now.

It is not any problem with Jriver Media Center itself - Jriver relies on online databases, from which it pulls metadata and artwork. For most popular albums and commercially available movies, the databases are pretty accurate. However, if you are ripping something that is a bit more "esoteric" it is possible that the database info is not as accurate and may need a little "assistance" from the user. Fortunately, the more people use Jriver, the more new data gets uploaded automatically to the databases, which helps everyone.

When I run into this, or Jriver uses a movie poster that I don't like, I just go to Google Images, select the art I like, and save it to the movie folder. Then, it is easy to tell Jriver to display the art I like as the movie poster.
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I am cool with it. Don't get me wrong. I understand that it gets its data from many different sources and it's possible that sometimes the sources get "confused" for some reason. If you saw what it did for the movie Ted (which I don't think is an esoteric title) you would have really laughed. Then for another one, I can't remember which one, it put an American Pie movie. But like I said, all I did was go into that one Jriver screen that lists every thing, right clicked on the movie, and then I was able to choose the option to get the right poster. Let me say again that I have done many movies so far and I have only had three as an issue. All in all I am VERY happy with the entire setup and how it all works. It is a great upgrade if anybody is thinking about it and Dennis is the Man to talk to about it smile.gif. If I can get the hang of it, anybody can. And I did not even have to bother Dennis to get it right biggrin.gif(the naming part). I am sure he is tired of all my emails by now tongue.gif.
Edited by MIkeDuke - 5/10/13 at 4:00pm
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When I run into this, or Jriver uses a movie poster that I don't like, I just go to Google Images, select the art I like, and save it to the movie folder. Then, it is easy to tell Jriver to display the art I like as the movie poster.

I do this as well--sometimes, just for the heck of it. Jriver is one of those systems that requires a little work to manage, but the experience it provides in return is absolutely amazing! My blu ray collection is collecting dust upstairs, and having access to so many movies using the interface (and the seamless integration with my Harmony 900 remote) make it the single best thing I've ever added to my system. I never would have thought that the single best addition to my theater would also be the cheapest--a $50 piece of software.
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Chuck, I agree with Craig on what he says. I get a nice tactile feel in my room, probably because it is on the second floor. If I were building from scratch I would also do what Craig suggests about isolation because trust me, it will be an issue. Seal that room up as best as you can. My room is small and already built so I really can't do anything that would really help. Now I don't know if my room or walls resonate and have their own sound in the room but I do have pictures hanging up and I can hear them rattle sometimes. But it really doesn't bother me enough yet to take them down and I like having them in the room. But I know that if I wanted a serious room, they would have to go.
Mike,

Your room is NOT one of the rooms that adds a secondary sound signature from room vibrations, at least not that I've ever noticed. Sorry I didn't make that clear in my previous post.

Having said that, your room also doesn't add as much tactile response as some other 2nd floor rooms I've been in. So much so that you've found great benefit in adding a Crowson Tactile Transducer. I don't know for sure, but I suspect that the size of your room and the solidity of the construction of the house are the factors that impact this.

Craig
post #540 of 541
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I know what it was Craig, when I run my system and have a bass heavy movie, the rest of the house moves but my room is not that bad. I also think I got more tactile sensation when I had my couch in the room as opposed to my chairs. The couch had a bigger surface area that was in contact with the floor and the chairs really don't. That is why as you said, the Crowson is a big benefit to me. The room itself really does not add any sound but on just a few movies, the pics I have hanging on frames rattle a bit. So as a whole, I am happy with the sound in the room, but if I have it loud enough, it will easily travel to the rest of the house and anybody else in the house will not like it tongue.gif.
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