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post #61 of 622
Amazon has coupons listed for each of these movies. $5 for the sets or $8 if you preorder both movies. You have to logon to Amazon first then go to their Disney blu-ray site for the coupons to appear. I'm not sure how much of a deal this is though as I'd bet the coupons from DMR will be better.
post #62 of 622
I am a big fan of the first movie and I quite enjoyed Legacy.

I'm annoyed there isn't a 2 disc blu-ray of both films. I don't want DVDs and digital copies. I don't want to pay for special packaging. I want both movies as high quality blu-rays. Period.

It seems that this should be available in the $35 range. Grrr.

Joel
post #63 of 622
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Originally Posted by Flexx View Post

Yes, this is what I saw as well and everything was common top-line, so the shifts in AR kinda made you feel like you were falling into the movie by filling in the lower 20-30% of your vision when you were in "The Grid." Very effective IMHO. If they preserve the AR changes, though, I don't think they will keep common-top. They'll just center the 2.4:1 scenes in the middle. I would be surprised, anyway.

This kind of reminds me of the widening of the AR that occurs in "Brother Bear" after the transformation.
post #64 of 622
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Originally Posted by mythrenegade View Post

I am a big fan of the first movie and I quite enjoyed Legacy.

I'm annoyed there isn't a 2 disc blu-ray of both films. I don't want DVDs and digital copies. I don't want to pay for special packaging. I want both movies as high quality blu-rays. Period.

It seems that this should be available in the $35 range. Grrr.

Joel

At least there is a less expensive 2 disc release for each film (Blu-Ray+DVD). Personally a single disc Blu-Ray is all I really want for most any release.

http://www.amazon.com/Tron-Legacy-Tw...6930372&sr=1-5

http://www.amazon.com/Tron-Original-...xgy_cc_d_img_b
post #65 of 622
Same thing happened in movies like Galaxy Quest and Horse Whisperer, but they hardly ever preserve the aspect ratio shifts on home video.

Dark Knight and Transformers 2 on Blu-ray jumped from 2.40:1 to the full 1.78:1 during the IMAX scenes, but in the case of Tron (like Avatar), I think they'll just give us the whole movie in 1.78:1.
post #66 of 622
I saw it four times. The last movie I saw 4 times was Titantic. Guess that means I liked it.
post #67 of 622
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Originally Posted by giantchicken View Post

in the case of Tron (like Avatar), I think they'll just give us the whole movie in 1.78:1.

When I saw Tron: Legacy in IMAX 3D only certain scenes filled up the entire screen. The rest were in 2.35:1.
post #68 of 622
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Originally Posted by giantchicken View Post

Same thing happened in movies like Galaxy Quest and Horse Whisperer, but they hardly ever preserve the aspect ratio shifts on home video.

Dark Knight and Transformers 2 on Blu-ray jumped from 2.40:1 to the full 1.78:1 during the IMAX scenes, but in the case of Tron (like Avatar), I think they'll just give us the whole movie in 1.78:1.

in the case of Transformers 2, there was a special wallmart or whatever edition with shifting AR, the one I have is fixed at 2.35, IMAX scenes included. In Tron, as mentioned before, all the real world scenes are 2.35, I don't see why they would change that (assuming they could) since there's a specific reason for it. As for the Tron world, shifting to 1.78 would be nice indeed...
post #69 of 622
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Originally Posted by Staying Salty View Post

I saw it four times. The last movie I saw 4 times was Titantic. Guess that means I liked it.

Maybe I actually will rent it first.
post #70 of 622
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Originally Posted by Foxarwing42 View Post

I think they'll probably put this out in 1.85:1 instead of 2.40:1, because most theaters, even none IMAX played the movie at 1.85:1, and very few 3D and 2D places played it at 2.40:1.

Really? I saw it twice in two different non-IMAX 3D formats (not sure which formats they were, but they were definitely different) and two different countries (China and the U.S.) and both screenings were 2.40:1. Maybe I just chanced upon two of the very few non-1.85:1 venues.

Edit: A director interview on the topic:

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But there's about 43 minutes of the movie in the IMAX version that go from a 2.4 aspect ratio, which is the aspect ratio that's in most theaters—all RealD, Dolby, and standard 2D prints are 2.4:1, it's called "scope" aspect ratio. In IMAX, there are 43 minutes where it goes to 1.77 which is 16 x 9, which almost fills an IMAX screen.

And here's another interview with someone from IMAX where he says the movie was shot in 1.78:1 (the native AR of the CineAlta 3D cameras) but that it was finished at 2.40:1, except for "43 and a half minutes" of "IMAX" scenes, for which they used the full 1.78:1 frame. (From the sound of things, none of it was actually filmed in IMAX.)
post #71 of 622
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Originally Posted by Staying Salty View Post

I saw it four times. The last movie I saw 4 times was Titantic. Guess that means I liked it.

Twice for me, neither viewing in 3D. Doesn't mean I don't like viewing movies that way but I get car sick in the rear seat even when the vehicle isn't moving! Goodness knows how some of the fast pace scenes in this movie might have reacted on me!
post #72 of 622
Do you guys think someone who never seen the first movie would enjoy this first movie? I'm sure I'll like the recent release but I'm not sure about the first. I played the game as a kid and I remember all they hype but I never saw the movie.
post #73 of 622
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Originally Posted by Foxarwing42 View Post

I saw it in IMAX and there were definitely points in the movie that were in 1.37:1 or whatever the IMAX ratio was, while everything else was in 1.85:1. I think they'll probably put this out in 1.85:1 instead of 2.40:1, because most theaters, even none IMAX played the movie at 1.85:1, and very few 3D and 2D places played it at 2.40:1. Seriously, though, the movie looks better in 1.85:1 (to me anyways), so I really hope it just stays there.

I saw at where it premiered (El Capitan theater in Hollywood) and it was scope the entire time so that what I hope Disney gives us for home. IMO the opening up to 1.78:1 thing just doesn't work the same at home. It's like a big epic wide movie turning into a tv movie.
post #74 of 622
Excellent looking forward to see this, just pre ordered my copy.
post #75 of 622
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At least there is a less expensive 2 disc release for each film (Blu-Ray+DVD). Personally a single disc Blu-Ray is all I really want for most any release.

Thats the copy I ordered.
post #76 of 622
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Originally Posted by Kram Sacul View Post

I saw at where it premiered (El Capitan theater in Hollywood) and it was scope the entire time so that what I hope Disney gives us for home. IMO the opening up to 1.78:1 thing just doesn't work the same at home. It's like a big epic wide movie turning into a tv movie.

Normally, I would agree for a standard scope (anamorphic) presentation, but the way I saw it presented in a (real) IMAX theater was the 2.4:1 "real world" scenes were not wider than the square-ish IMAX footage. The 2.4:1 stuff was letterboxed within the IMAX frame. This experience could be recreated in the home on the Blu-ray. I will say that the AR changes in the IMAX theater were quite effective. Between the 3D and the AR changes, it really felt like you were dropped into the Grid.
post #77 of 622
I can't wait !!
but i'll hold out till just before the Blu_ray is released as what happened when Inception was about to release . there was a price war & BB had it for the same price as Amazon less shipping & it's was there @ Best Buy before Amazon could mail it to me ....
post #78 of 622
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Do you guys think someone who never seen the first movie would enjoy this first movie? I'm sure I'll like the recent release but I'm not sure about the first. I played the game as a kid and I remember all they hype but I never saw the movie.

I think if you never saw the original, you're less likely to like it now. Let's face it, the effects that were incredibly groundbreaking back then are very dated now (though the light cycle sequence is still very impressive). Plus, the original TRON story moves much slower by comparison - slower cuts, longer stretches between action scenes and a lot less intensity expressed by the actors. Remember, this was one of the earliest movies where actors had to react to nothing being there. Today, actors have no excuse - they should expect it.

That being said, if you can appreciate something like Poltergeist or the original Clash of the Titans (which both came out around that same period of time) despite the limitations of special effects of the time, you'll likely enjoy the original TRON. For example, if you can look past the grainy optical composites and appreciate the art involved with Ray's stop motion effects in Clash or look past the bad composites of objects floating the the kids bedroom or the almost laughable "face tearing" scene in Poltergeist - then enjoy the house implosion, you'll be able to overlook the occasional bleeding of the lights on the clothing and the very simple computer graphics in the original TRON.
post #79 of 622
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Originally Posted by NetworkTV View Post

I think if you never saw the original, you're less likely to like it now. Let's face it, the effects that were incredibly groundbreaking back then are very dated now (though the light cycle sequence is still very impressive). Plus, the original TRON story moves much slower by comparison - slower cuts, longer stretches between action scenes and a lot less intensity expressed by the actors. Remember, this was one of the earliest movies where actors had to react to nothing being there. Today, actors have no excuse - they should expect it.

That being said, if you can appreciate something like Poltergeist or the original Clash of the Titans (which both came out around that same period of time) despite the limitations of special effects of the time, you'll likely enjoy the original TRON. For example, if you can look past the grainy optical composites and appreciate the art involved with Ray's stop motion effects in Clash or look past the bad composites of objects floating the the kids bedroom or the almost laughable "face tearing" scene in Poltergeist - then enjoy the house implosion, you'll be able to overlook the occasional bleeding of the lights on the clothing and the very simple computer graphics in the original TRON.

Thanks for your take. I can overlook bad (or very dated) special effects if the story is good enough and the action is at least acceptable. I haven't seen either of the two movies you mentioned in a very long time but I have seen both of those at least a few times each. I still like the Superman movies and the flying was great for the time but there are some pretty bad scenes in there where superman is flying sideways but I can overlook those types of scenes.
post #80 of 622
I don't think we have seen the tech specs but I remember when I was in the theater dolby 7.1 audio was flashed across the screen before the movie.
I am hoping this movie was mixed with 7.1 audio like Toy Story 3 was and hopefully the blu ray will be the same.
The sound and music in the theater was awesome.
post #81 of 622
This will be a blind buy for me. I do like the original and can't wait to see Legacy on Blu-ray 3D. I missed out on the $5 coupon from Amazon but I'm thinking DMR will have a $10 off coupon in the next couple of months.
post #82 of 622
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Originally Posted by jdmac29 View Post

I don't think we have seen the tech specs but I remember when I was in the theater dolby 7.1 audio was flashed across the screen before the movie.
I am hoping this movie was mixed with 7.1 audio like Toy Story 3 was and hopefully the blu ray will be the same.
The sound and music in the theater was awesome.

It was the second release to use it, it will be in DTSHD 7.1 if TS3 is any indicator
post #83 of 622
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

It was the second release to use it, it will be in DTSHD 7.1 if TS3 is any indicator

The second release to use it was Step Up 3D, followed by Megamind, Tangled, and Narnia. TRON Legacy was actually sixth, followed by Gulliver's Travels and Gnomeo & Juliet.
post #84 of 622
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Originally Posted by sdurani View Post

The second release to use it was Step Up 3D, followed by Megamind, Tangled, and Narnia. TRON Legacy was actually sixth, followed by Gulliver's Travels and Gnomeo & Juliet.

I thought it was the second release mixed in it, maybe not released but mixed
post #85 of 622
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

I thought it was the second release mixed in it, maybe not released but mixed

Step Up 3D was released in early August. Tron Legacy was released over four months later in mid December. Their mixing sessions likely happened in that order as well.
post #86 of 622
Fair point, did the others get home 7.1 mixes?
post #87 of 622
The only one I could find specs on was Step Up 3; both the BD and 3DBD have 7.1 audio, like the theatrical release. Specs on Megamind should be out soon, since the BD is due in a couple weeks. I can't imagine the others not porting their theatrical 7.1 mixes.
post #88 of 622
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Originally Posted by sdurani View Post

The only one I could find specs on was Step Up 3; both the BD and 3DBD have 7.1 audio, like the theatrical release. Specs on Megamind should be out soon, since the BD is due in a couple weeks. I can't imagine the others not porting their theatrical 7.1 mixes.

Megamind will have a 7.1 Dolby TrueHD mix: http://blurayview.com/news/dreamwork...february-25th/

I would be shocked if Tron didn't, but coming from Disney it'll probably have it in DTS-HD MA.
post #89 of 622
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Originally Posted by Sujay

Megamind will have a 7.1 Dolby TrueHD mix: http://blurayview.com/news/dreamwork...february-25th/

I would be shocked if Tron didn't, but coming from Disney it'll probably have it in DTS-HD MA.
I always found it odd that they pushed TS3 and Tron as Dolby Surround 7.1 showcases and yet the home mixes are DTS MA
post #90 of 622
I can't wait to get these movies. Always been a fan. I am probably one of the few that thought the look of the first Tron was the coolest. It has a look of its own and for where they are suppose to be(in a computer), I think it was very cool. In the new movie, everything and everyone kinda look the same, inside and outside the computer. But the effects are sweet in the new one too.
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