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post #331 of 879
Oh man the Sanyo player gouged a ring on my last Fantasia disc. I did notice a ring on the Disney sing along but I thought since that side is blank it was some sort of marker and didn't look like a gouge or scratch. The gouge it left on my disc is pretty bad but the good news is glad it wasn't the SW discs.

So back goes the Sanyo I don't think I even want to attempt a fix for this unit. Like I mentioned in the other thread it was in for service my guess is this unit was eating discs and that's why it probably went in.

The bummer for me last night was I didn't get to finish the movie and I never saw Fantasia before. So it kind of ruined the experience for me but hey it's only LD. I'm sure I can go back to the store and replace the last disc, but in the mean time the Sanyo is an evil unit and must be put to rest. I also returned the modulator didn't need it as I'm not putting any video sources into the chain, so anything from here on out to save money.
post #332 of 879
Thread Starter 
A local person has a some LD's and a player for sale. The discs are all mid-late 1980's, but include some good Disney cartoon compilations and Music Videos.

The player he has is a Pioneer LD-717, which looks like a mid 80s entry level player... the kind I would give to friends just to hook them on LaserDiscs.

Anybody know anything special about this player?

Thanks
post #333 of 879
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Originally Posted by toyfreaks View Post

A local person has a some LD's and a player for sale. The discs are all mid-late 1980's, but include some good Disney cartoon compilations and Music Videos.

The player he has is a Pioneer LD-717, which looks like a mid 80s entry level player... the kind I would give to friends just to hook them on LaserDiscs.

Anybody know anything special about this player?

Thanks

This is all I can find in the UK database.


http://www.laserdiscarchive.co.uk/la...eer_ld-717.htm
post #334 of 879
Comparing the HLD-X0 to the HLD-X9 is it worth to pay the difference?

I am looking for one of those, and people who have them ask the double for an HLD-X0.
post #335 of 879
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Originally Posted by Nimo View Post

Oh man the Sanyo player gouged a ring on my last Fantasia disc. I did notice a ring on the Disney sing along but I thought since that side is blank it was some sort of marker and didn't look like a gouge or scratch. The gouge it left on my disc is pretty bad but the good news is glad it wasn't the SW discs.

So back goes the Sanyo I don't think I even want to attempt a fix for this unit. Like I mentioned in the other thread it was in for service my guess is this unit was eating discs and that's why it probably went in.

The bummer for me last night was I didn't get to finish the movie and I never saw Fantasia before. So it kind of ruined the experience for me but hey it's only LD. I'm sure I can go back to the store and replace the last disc, but in the mean time the Sanyo is an evil unit and must be put to rest. I also returned the modulator didn't need it as I'm not putting any video sources into the chain, so anything from here on out to save money.

Man a new pioneer rfd 1 for $40, Wow. I see used ones sell for $150-$400 all the time. You should have kept it and made a few bucks off it
post #336 of 879
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Originally Posted by 67 - 427 View Post

Man a new pioneer rfd 1 for $40, Wow. I see used ones sell for $150-$400 all the time. You should have kept it and made a few bucks off it

I wish, it's a modulator for daisy chaining video hardware JA-RF5. Was thinking of transferring to DVD but said why waste my time. Hey I made a crappy video of the two 704's in action, hooked up to the SC-07 using both optical's on the 704's. SC-07 sends the audio as PCM, and Faroudja is scaling to 1080p and zoomed.

post #337 of 879
Get it back! I'll give you a few more $ than you paid for your trouble!!!!
post #338 of 879
Talking about the Pio demodulator, that is....
post #339 of 879
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Originally Posted by vcrpro3 View Post

Get it back! I'll give you a few more $ than you paid for your trouble!!!!

I think you got to excited it's not an RFD-1 Demodulator.
It's the JA-RF5 Modulator.
post #340 of 879
I would have given you 250 at least for a new in box rfd1 110V model
post #341 of 879
Well so far so good my SW collection came the other day and I'm now in the process of transferring it to DVD. I broke out my 50.00 LG RC-897T DVD/VHS recorder to simplify things I got that a few years back refurbed. Just didn't want to go through the hassle of setting up the PC, and after doing a little digging it seems this is the way to go. Using two 704 players for this and one recorder so I have to manually unplug the cables but I can do it way faster than the change over leaving the other player in pause, gives it a quick fade out affect.
post #342 of 879
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Originally Posted by Nimo View Post

Well so far so good my SW collection came the other day and I'm now in the process of transferring it to DVD. I broke out my 50.00 LG RC-897T DVD/VHS recorder to simplify things I got that a few years back refurbed. Just didn't want to go through the hassle of setting up the PC, and after doing a little digging it seems this is the way to go. Using two 704 players for this and one recorder so I have to manually unplug the cables but I can do it way faster than the change over leaving the other player in pause, gives it a quick fade out affect.

You should talk to others that record onto their PC's as they stream in the digital or surround track directly in digital form. I'll bet the way you are doing it you are using the right/left analog channels so you will loose a little high end response and dynamics.
post #343 of 879
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Originally Posted by EJ View Post

Please keep us posted as to how they play.

A few months ago I bought the DiscoVision version of Animal House off ebay for a shipped total of about $3. Primarily because I had never had one, and I wanted to see what a late '70s transfer looked like.

It arrived VERY scratched, the glue holding the jacket together was barely doing its job. and, by the way, it filled my theater with cigarette smoke with surprising speed.

Since there was no way the disc was touching my CLD-704, I used my retired Panasonic LX-600. Side 1 was a soft mess with jumping white lines everywhere. Side 2 refused to play at all.

I threw it in the trash OUTSIDE IN THE ALLEY, and didn't pursue a $3 refund (it was described as being in "very good" condition)

Lesson learned.

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Originally Posted by vcrpro3 View Post

I certainly will!! It was quite a surprise that i still had them, as i originally had LD from the early to late 1990's...then went off in a different direction in my home entertainment tastes... i had gone from the early surround format (pro logic) back to strictly 2 channel audio until about about 2-1/2 years ago when i decided to get back into home A/V...Will let y'all know in a couple of days how they play

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Going through boxes of stuff in my garage, in one that i know i had not opened since 1998 i found a 50th anniversary set of Fantasia that i remember opening but not ever playing!!!!

I finally got around to playing the Fantasia LD set that had been sitting in a box for 13 years.... Looked fantastic!!! Discs were played on a CLD-D604 going throuh a Marantz SR7001 into a Hitachi 57F710A CRT hdtv. If i knew how to uoload pics to the forum, i'd post some screenshots! Now to get enough ambition to hook up one of the CLD-D704s........
post #344 of 879
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Originally Posted by Nimo View Post

I wish, it's a modulator for daisy chaining video hardware JA-RF5. Was thinking of transferring to DVD but said why waste my time. Hey I made a crappy video of the two 704's in action, hooked up to the SC-07 using both optical's on the 704's. SC-07 sends the audio as PCM, and Faroudja is scaling to 1080p and zoomed.

What Faroudja scaler are you using?

TLK
post #345 of 879
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Originally Posted by Kurtis Bahr View Post

You should talk to others that record onto their PC's as they stream in the digital or surround track directly in digital form. I'll bet the way you are doing it you are using the right/left analog channels so you will loose a little high end response and dynamics.

Well now you've gone and done it Kurtis you got me thinking about putting together another PC. I've got so many parts to build one I might as well, I have two 7600 nVidia cards with ViVo. DFI mobo Antec PSU, OCZ DDR ram the only thing I would need is an optical in/out card. I saw one at the egg for 17.00 and am considering buying it. But after transfering to DVD and playing back the movie it sounds pretty good with analog LR matrixed using the SC-07 THX settings. PCM is nice but analog ain't to bad either. The dedicated PC will be on the back burner for now I'm in no hurry.

After getting it on DVD and playing it through the Pansonic DMP-300 it looks damn good, better than the original LD but then again I'm running it in a dedicated BD player with a better scaling chip than the SC-07's built in Faroudja. I'm going to run it through the Reon in my BDP-5000 HD DVD/BD player and see how it looks.

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Originally Posted by vcrpro3 View Post

I finally got around to playing the Fantasia LD set that had been sitting in a box for 13 years.... Looked fantastic!!! Discs were played on a CLD-D604 going throuh a Marantz SR7001 into a Hitachi 57F710A CRT hdtv. If i knew how to uoload pics to the forum, i'd post some screenshots! Now to get enough ambition to hook up one of the CLD-D704s........

I bought that new last week for 25.00 really enjoyed/appreciate the animation they did back then. It was the first time I ever watched this movie all the way through.

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Originally Posted by The Lizard King View Post

What Faroudja scaler are you using?

TLK

It's the cheap built in DCDi chip in the SC-07 it's not nearly as good as the Reon in my Sammy BDP-5000 or the Panny DMP-300. So for now on SW get's played on one of the better stand alone players and since everything is connected via HDMI there is no scaling involved with the SC-07 the player does all the work.
post #346 of 879
I found Womble to edit and clean up the DVD, I also converted the AC3 audio to PCM and am now in the final burn process. Hope it turns out a winner if so I'll give away some free copies for evaluation purposes if anybody is interested.
post #347 of 879
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Originally Posted by Nimo View Post

Well so far so good my SW collection came the other day and I'm now in the process of transferring it to DVD. I broke out my 50.00 LG RC-897T DVD/VHS recorder to simplify things I got that a few years back refurbed. Just didn't want to go through the hassle of setting up the PC, and after doing a little digging it seems this is the way to go. Using two 704 players for this and one recorder so I have to manually unplug the cables but I can do it way faster than the change over leaving the other player in pause, gives it a quick fade out affect.

FWIW I have the CLD702 and record to a Desktop PC using a Hauppauge TV tuner (Q950) connected via USB. The tuner comes with a dongle which accepts S-Video, composite video and L/R audio. Using S-Video and L/R audio the Hauppauge software records the LD to the HDD in the PC.
Then the recording is copied to a WHS which streams over a Gb hardwired network to a Done H1 media player which feed an iScan Duo VP over HDMI and the Duo over HDMI to an LG LCD TV.

The Duo does a marvelous job cleaning the video

The Duo has numerous inputs (8 HDMI) as well as composite, component, S-Video and optical SPDIF. Feeding the 702 directly to the Duo via S-Video and SPDIF the video PQ seems identical to the recorded stream from the WHS>Dune>Duo>TV.

OTOH watching the Art Van Damme Cyborg without the Duo exhibits severe color shifting, virtually not watchable. This LD is very poorly authored but makes a good test disc to evaluate various VP hardware.
post #348 of 879
Ok I made three DVD Master copies of SW in AC3 2CH, PCM 2CH, AC-3 5.1CH. Womble will let you convert the audio but it has problems with AC-3 encodes when ripping to disc. I'm still in the process of getting a working AC-3 copy ripped to DVD just need to find the right encoder. But in the mean time I was browsing cl again and found a Yamaha DDP-1 Demodulater for 29.00 had to travel 50 miles out to get it so the total cost plus gas came out to 39.00.

I gave it a good blow out and wiped the innards. The unit powered right up so I proceeded to set the DDP-1 to AC-3 encode. I fired up the CLD-D704 and the SC-07 is now playing Stargate in Multi CH AC-3. So far the two players and the Yamaha unit comes out to 139.00 invested into LD territory not counting the discs. Turns out the Definitive is defective due to rot, so Im getting a 100% refund. So the only thing I really spent as far as media is the Fantasia collection I bought for 25.00 new still sealed and enjoyed watching it very much!
post #349 of 879
This Yamaha unit sounds really nice, and it was a good incentive to get my analog connections going on the SC-07. The DDP-1 puts out a very nice warm sound using the multi ch inputs in the pio. Now I've heard that this unit uses Burr Brown dacs, my SC-07 uses the Wolfson dacs. I think I like the sound of the Yamaha better it has a more natural sound to it. It's been a while since I used my analog input/outputs and the Yamaha didn't disappoint. Comparing it to two ch PCM matrixed I think I prefer the discrete sound of analog 5.1 not nearly as dynamic as PCM but more natural sounding and gives me that old theater feeling.
post #350 of 879
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Originally Posted by catmother View Post

FWIW I have the CLD702 and record to a Desktop PC using a Hauppauge TV tuner (Q950) connected via USB. The tuner comes with a dongle which accepts S-Video, composite video and L/R audio. Using S-Video and L/R audio the Hauppauge software records the LD to the HDD in the PC.
Then the recording is copied to a WHS which streams over a Gb hardwired network to a Done H1 media player which feed an iScan Duo VP over HDMI and the Duo over HDMI to an LG LCD TV.

The Duo does a marvelous job cleaning the video

The Duo has numerous inputs (8 HDMI) as well as composite, component, S-Video and optical SPDIF. Feeding the 702 directly to the Duo via S-Video and SPDIF the video PQ seems identical to the recorded stream from the WHS>Dune>Duo>TV.

OTOH watching the Art Van Damme Cyborg without the Duo exhibits severe color shifting, virtually not watchable. This LD is very poorly authored but makes a good test disc to evaluate various VP hardware.

Thanks for that intuitive how to... Sounds like you have a lot invested in your networked system. That VP your using is nice but for 1k it's just not for me, and for LD it seriously isn't worth it for my situation. Like I mentioned I'm only in for 139.00 so far into this venture two 704 players and the DDP-1 demodulator.
post #351 of 879
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Originally Posted by catmother View Post


FWIW I have the CLD702 and record to a Desktop PC using a Hauppauge TV tuner (Q950) connected via USB. The tuner comes with a dongle which accepts S-Video, composite video and L/R audio. Using S-Video and L/R audio the Hauppauge software records the LD to the HDD in the PC.
Then the recording is copied to a WHS which streams over a Gb hardwired network to a Done H1 media player which feed an iScan Duo VP over HDMI and the Duo over HDMI to an LG LCD TV.

The Duo does a marvelous job cleaning the video

The Duo has numerous inputs (8 HDMI) as well as composite, component, S-Video and optical SPDIF. Feeding the 702 directly to the Duo via S-Video and SPDIF the video PQ seems identical to the recorded stream from the WHS>Dune>Duo>TV.

OTOH watching the Art Van Damme Cyborg without the Duo exhibits severe color shifting, virtually not watchable. This LD is very poorly authored but makes a good test disc to evaluate various VP hardware.

Thats pretty much how I do it.
post #352 of 879
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Originally Posted by Nimo View Post

Thanks for that intuitive how to... Sounds like you have a lot invested in your networked system. That VP your using is nice but for 1k it's just not for me, and for LD it seriously isn't worth it for my situation. Like I mentioned I'm only in for 139.00 so far into this venture two 704 players and the DDP-1 demodulator.

Agreed, it is not likely anyone would buy a Duo just for laserdiscs.

But for me with a variety of source material including VHS and S-VHS tapes (recorded from D* years ago), DVD's, 480i cable video (Encore channels) the DUO VP corrects a lot of faults.

Then there is the the Duo pattern generator which is used by ChromaPure calibration software to calibrate my display to near perfection.

Admittedly this is not cheap but since my HT evolved over many years the cost was spread out over that period.
post #353 of 879
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

Thats pretty much how I do it.

I see you have "Once Upon a Time in the West" and "The Magnificant Seven" two of my favorites.
post #354 of 879
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I see you have "Once a Time in the West" and "The Magnificant Seven" two of my favorites.

Great movies
post #355 of 879
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Originally Posted by catmother View Post

I see you have "Once a Time in the West" and "The Magnificant Seven" two of my favorites.

I think it was "Once Upon a Time in the West " and if I'm not mistaken Henry got a lot of crap for playing the part of a out right cold blooded killer in the opening scene. Amazing how film can turn a father like figure into a seriously cold blooded killer! How you can turn those warm blue eyes and make them look like a sharks "doll eyes"...(Robert Shaw) Amazing!!
post #356 of 879
Question, how do you change the frame counter to the time counter on a CLD-D704? One of my players is showing time instead of frames and for the life of me I can't find the switch.
post #357 of 879
The counter will show frames on a CAV (standard play) disc, time on a CLV (extended play) disc. The "Display" button will cycle through the available options, as a CAV disc with digital audio can have time code also, but that does leave you with a display superimposed on the video. If you want, I can look up specifics in the player manual, but that's the overview.
post #358 of 879
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Originally Posted by Sheer Lunacy View Post

The counter will show frames on a CAV (standard play) disc, time on a CLV (extended play) disc. The "Display" button will cycle through the available options, as a CAV disc with digital audio can have time code also, but that does leave you with a display superimposed on the video. If you want, I can look up specifics in the player manual, but that's the overview.

Thanks for the info, no need to research I do have the pdf manual but it's not very intuitive. And in no way could it have explained it better than you did I appreciate it. I'm learning something new everyday about this colorful format and kind of now know what to look out for. I'm going to Laser Blazer tomorrow and see what hard to find titles I can scrape up. They have a secret stash of exclusives not shown to the public so I'll have to ask what they have. I guess anything Criterion, dts audio and Japanese imports etc.

I sent back the Definitive collection so I'm on the hunt for the single versions I guess these don't suffer from rot and I'm almost positive Ron can get me what I want IV,V,VI. They do have a lot of .99/1.99 titles in their showroom I'll probably skim through those too. That's where I found Austin Powers sealed for .99 very nice transfer and looks pretty stunning on my Toshiba CRT.
post #359 of 879
Hi
I have a room with, like a library where i keep the movies, and i want to put there my Laserdisc Players, since they are so precious to me, and they won't get too much dust there.
But to place them there i must buy like 20 meters of composite and audio cables to connect them to the TV and Amplifier in the living room.

Is there any solution so i will not loose picture quality?
post #360 of 879
I don't know of a simple one. You might try using a distribution amplifier as a booster, attached to the output of the LD player by as short a cable as possible. That is a typical analog broadcast plant solution.
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