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post #391 of 882
11/2/11 at 11:13am
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Well, I finally got an AC3 demodulator, a Kenwood DEM-999D. Paid $83 total. I just couldn't justify $250 for the Nakamichi(sp) name.

Thoughts?

I've been through several demodulators - a couple of Denons, a Pioneer, a Yamaha, and my current Lexicon - and I can't say I've seen much in the way of performance differences in any of them. I think it's in the nature of what they do; either they demodulate the carrier and present it for decoding or they don't. Others may feel differently. I'm sure if your Kenwood does what it's intended to do it's as good as any other.
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post #392 of 882
11/2/11 at 10:46pm
Just when I thought that I'd seen a high price for a decoder...
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post #393 of 882
11/3/11 at 8:40am
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Originally Posted by denvertrakker View Post

I've been through several demodulators - a couple of Denons, a Pioneer, a Yamaha, and my current Lexicon - and I can't say I've seen much in the way of performance differences in any of them. I think it's in the nature of what they do; either they demodulate the carrier and present it for decoding or they don't. Others may feel differently. I'm sure if your Kenwood does what it's intended to do it's as good as any other.

They all contain the same IC which does the demodulation. Some units have features others don't, but the basic function is identical.
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post #394 of 882
11/4/11 at 11:12am
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I am getting ready to sell a couple monsters that I just don't have space for.

I have a Pioneer VP-1000 and a Pioneer LD-W1. I can't stand dealing with eBay any more, so I don't plan on listing them there. If anybody on this thead is interested, I'd give you fellows first chance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt4YFPZ5rBc
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post #395 of 882
11/10/11 at 6:36am
Like others technology changes constantly. I have managed to include those systems that bring about real home theater video & audio enjoyment regardless what they are or how old. Surprising they do work with each other if set up right. My JVC HM-DH40000 DVHS gives me HD 1080i viewing on that format. My Pioneer DVL-91 Laserdisc player gives me widescreen/DTS. My Optoma HD33 projector gives me 3D with my Panasonic DMP BDT350 3D player all on a 106" screen. With this projector(and others) I use a movable Panamorphic sled and anamorphic lens. depending on 4.3/16:9/2:35 viewing regardless of source. My content collection supports each one of these formats. This site still shows others interst in Laserdisc systems. I have over 400 laserdiscs with many box sets many never transfered to dvd. To select 4.3 or widewscreen and project it using my anamorphic system increases color and brightness 38% and allows viewing of material on both sides of the screen you normally don't see under normal tv viewing. Ben Hur is a great example of full wide screen viewing as it should be. As side from storing these huge(and smaller size) laserdisks, it is well worth it. The Pioneer DVL-91 with its rosewood sides and dts and auto side changing is perfect. One thing I learned over the many years don't set another player on top. It somwtimes causes mech to slow down. not much support there. no big deal. I feed all this stuff for audio to my Definitive BP3000, CLR 3000 center, BPX sides and BPXP powered rear speakers. My Audio & Bluray player is a OPPO BDP-83SE. Keep you eyes open on Laserdisc's and Players enjoyment is always there. Most young people don't even know what they are until they see one in action. Keep this site going, wecome your experience.
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post #396 of 882
11/10/11 at 10:26am
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like others technology changes constantly. I have managed to include those systems that bring about real home theater video & audio enjoyment regardless what they are or how old. Surprising they do work with each other if set up right. My jvc hm-dh40000 dvhs gives me hd 1080i viewing on that format. My pioneer dvl-91 laserdisc player gives me widescreen/dts. My optoma hd33 projector gives me 3d with my panasonic dmp bdt350 3d player all on a 106" screen. With this projector(and others) i use a movable panamorphic sled and anamorphic lens. Depending on 4.3/16:9/2:35 viewing regardless of source. My content collection supports each one of these formats. This site still shows others interst in laserdisc systems. I have over 400 laserdiscs with many box sets many never transfered to dvd. To select 4.3 or widewscreen and project it using my anamorphic system increases color and brightness 38% and allows viewing of material on both sides of the screen you normally don't see under normal tv viewing. Ben hur is a great example of full wide screen viewing as it should be. As side from storing these huge(and smaller size) laserdisks, it is well worth it. The pioneer dvl-91 with its rosewood sides and dts and auto side changing is perfect. One thing i learned over the many years don't set another player on top. It somwtimes causes mech to slow down. Not much support there. No big deal. I feed all this stuff for audio to my definitive bp3000, clr 3000 center, bpx sides and bpxp powered rear speakers. My audio & bluray player is a oppo bdp-83se. Keep you eyes open on laserdisc's and players enjoyment is always there. Most young people don't even know what they are until they see one in action. Keep this site going, wecome your experience.
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post #397 of 882
11/15/11 at 6:26am
I checked out your HT page and "Hat's off to you". You have a incredible setup. One picture I didn't show my wife was your antenna('s) on the roof. :-)
What alot of people don't realize these setups evolve after months & years improving as you go along. All part of the HT enjoyment. Good Job!
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post #398 of 882
11/18/11 at 7:59am
Anyone have any opinions on the CLD-900? I've got a CLD-D504 that stopped working and someone near me is selling the 900. Easy to pick up but I wanted to know if anyone can tell me anything about it.
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post #399 of 882
11/18/11 at 11:23am
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Originally Posted by tinpanalley View Post

Anyone have any opinions on the CLD-900? I've got a CLD-D504 that stopped working and someone near me is selling the 900. Easy to pick up but I wanted to know if anyone can tell me anything about it.

The CLD-900 is a downgrade from the CLD-D504. Avoid.

TLK
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post #400 of 882
11/18/11 at 11:28am
Ugh... what a shame. Guess I'll have to figure out how to change the fuse on my D504
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post #401 of 882
11/18/11 at 1:25pm
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Originally Posted by tinpanalley View Post

Ugh... what a shame. Guess I'll have to figure out how to change the fuse on my D504

Make sure you cut out the ARC Suppression diode close to the fuse before you replace the fuse. Most likely it shorted (happens all the time) and is causing a short to ground.
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post #402 of 882
11/19/11 at 11:13am
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Does anybody else here have a Pioneer DVL-900 series player? I have a 909 on the workshop bench for testing disks and having something on while I work on other projects.

Is there a significant difference between the guts of the 900 series and the Elite DVL models? I like the convenience of a two-in-one player, but are any up to the level of the better players individually?
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post #403 of 882
11/23/11 at 7:49am
Took a gamble on a CLD-D703 w/ original box, remote, manual/paperwork, and uninstalled AC-3 board on eBay for just $120 shipped, it amazingly arrived in great shape and I must thank Mr. Bahr for his "rubber ring resurfacing" instructions. Initially the player would "slip" on LDs upon spinning them up to play and totally refuse to gamma turn, but after following your easy instructions, the player now works like a champ! Your instructions also helped my prior 503 to stop its sluggish performance! Thank you very much!

The picture quality alone was well worth the upgrade from the 503!

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post #404 of 882
11/23/11 at 4:53pm
Very nice...
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post #405 of 882
12/4/11 at 9:20pm
This guy just does not give up! Same posting for close to a year....i wish him luck.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-CLD-...item2316e338f1
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post #406 of 882
12/4/11 at 10:47pm
I just sold my spare laserdisc player on craigslist. Panasonic LX-600(no remote) for $35. I even threw in a copy of Buffy the Vampire Slayer (the movie) so he would have a disc to watch when he hooked it up.

He was a laserdisc novice, so I told him to start by using the composite instead of s-video and to call me if he had more questions.
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post #407 of 882
12/6/11 at 1:13pm
I own a Pioneer DVL-909 DVD/LD player. When I try to up convert a laser disk to 1080P via my Marantz AV8003, I lose the color and get only a black and white picture on my Epson 1080 Pro projector. I used both the composite and s-video connection with the same results. When I upconvert a DVD to 1080P I have no such issue. Would anyone have an ideas as to why I would lose the color information when I up convert an LD? The laser disks play fine at 480i, even though they are not a sharp as an up converted DVD.
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post #408 of 882
12/6/11 at 2:23pm
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Originally Posted by trailblazer View Post

I own a Pioneer DVL-909 DVD/LD player. When I try to up convert a laser disk to 1080P via my Marantz AV8003, I lose the color and get only a black and white picture on my Epson 1080 Pro projector. I used both the composite and s-video connection with the same results. When I upconvert a DVD to 1080P I have no such issue. Would anyone have an ideas as to why I would lose the color information when I up convert an LD? The laser disks play fine at 480i, even though they are not a sharp as an up converted DVD.

Are you converting the DVD from the composite or component input signal to the AV8003? Could be a receiver setting set to up convert component.
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post #409 of 882
12/7/11 at 12:34pm
The DVD is being up converted from component while LD is via s-video. I have the setting on the Marantz AV8003 to video convert the LD but only comes up in black and white, not color.
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post #410 of 882
12/7/11 at 1:10pm
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Originally Posted by trailblazer View Post

The DVD is being up converted from component while LD is via s-video. I have the setting on the Marantz AV8003 to video convert the LD but only comes up in black and white, not color.

I'd try a different s-video cable. Remember, laserdisc is stored in a composite format. A good ole' yellow video cable might work better.
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post #411 of 882
12/7/11 at 7:37pm
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Originally Posted by trailblazer View Post

The DVD is being up converted from component while LD is via s-video. I have the setting on the Marantz AV8003 to video convert the LD but only comes up in black and white, not color.

As with the other response. S-Video and component are two completely different animals. You need to try a different cable as mentioned or the composite as mentioned and see if you get the LD in color.
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post #412 of 882
12/8/11 at 8:47am
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Originally Posted by Kurtis Bahr View Post

S-Video and component are two completely different animals. You need to try a different cable as mentioned...

Are there any cables worth paying extra for? What does component signal travel best over?
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post #413 of 882
12/8/11 at 8:49am
No. All analog video signals require 75-ohm cables, & the longer the run, the more careful you need to be about cable selection, but good low-loss cable such as industry-standard RG-59 can be had very inexpensively. Anybody who tries to sell you "special cable" is trying to pull a fast one.
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post #414 of 882
12/8/11 at 10:41am
I have tried both s-video and composite cables and I only get black and white when attempting the up convert to 1080. While in s-video in and out I get color on LDs as it should be. The problem arises in up converting LDs 480i via s-video (or composite) via my Marantz AV8003 out through HDMI. I get the up coverted image, but in black and white.
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post #415 of 882
12/8/11 at 1:49pm
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Originally Posted by trailblazer View Post

I have tried both s-video and composite cables and I only get black and white when attempting the up convert to 1080. While in s-video in and out I get color on LDs as it should be. The problem arises in up converting LDs 480i via s-video (or composite) via my Marantz AV8003 out through HDMI. I get the up coverted image, but in black and white.

You need to start researching your AV8003 and see if it up-converts S-Video or if you need to change a setting to completely process composite and S-Video. I don't think it is the LD player or the cables.
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post #416 of 882
12/10/11 at 7:22am
Thanks for your help. The AV8003 is up converting the signal to either component or HDMI from 480i s-video. The issue is that it comes out black and white and not color. Did some experimenting on the Pioneer DVL-909 with the output settings. The output setting has two selections, 1 component and 2 s-video. When selecting either one it turns the color off on the other. For example, if you put on a LD, component turns off and you lose the color on the output to component and HDMI, but s-video the picture is normal. If you place a DVD in the unit, s-video goes to black and white and component has color as well as HDMI. I tried this without any up converting through the AV8003 and the same results appear. Anyone out there have any ideas as to why the LD player shuts off the color in this scenario.
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post #417 of 882
12/10/11 at 1:41pm
The DVL-909/919/91 all turn on/off the color as described when you select component/S-Video in the output in the menu's. You'd have to ask Pioneer why.

The way you were describing this you made it sound as though the S-Video output directly into the TV or looped out the the AV8003 at 480i with S-Video worked and then you used that same signal for the upscaled output without changes you had no color.
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post #418 of 882
12/10/11 at 2:38pm
Thanks. Regarding the LD output. I play an LD at 480i s-video through the AV8003 and output s-video to my Epson projector and the picture is fine. The loss of color occurs when I sent the signal to component or HDMI with or without up conversion through the AV8003, I lose the color. The loss of color does not happen when component 480i is is sent through the AV8003 with no conversion at 480i or up converted to 480p on component or 1080p on HDMI. According to the Marantz AV8003 manual, I should be able to sent a s-video signal, up converted or not, to component or HDMI, which it does albeit in black in white, no color. I hope this makes my signal path clearer to understand. It sounds to me that I need to somehow convert the s-video signal to component which I think would allow me to get color on the LD output on component and HDMI. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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post #419 of 882
12/15/11 at 8:34pm
How does the picture quality of a CLD-3080/CLD-909 compare to the CLD-xxx series?
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post #420 of 882
12/15/11 at 11:46pm
I have some confusion about laserdisc audio formats; i have many LD's that are labeled Dolby Surround.. They do not trigger my RF demodulators, only ones that are labeled dolby surround/ac3 do. what is the 'dolby surround' ones format?
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