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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
see where your isps ranks, and what kinds of bitrate to expect.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post19908881
post #2 of 16
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Originally Posted by mike_311 View Post

see where your isps ranks, and what kinds of bitrate to expect.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post19908881

I think you've accidentally posted the wrong link.
post #3 of 16
You can find them here on the Netflix blog.
post #4 of 16
The comment section is the best part of that link.
post #5 of 16
Thread Starter 
to note, its been verified that verizons has Fios and DSL combined. so no need for Fios users to jump ship just yet...
post #6 of 16
Can't see the link (at work) but I am glad that Netflix is starting to take some initiative in framing this argument.

For some time now ISP have been sheepishly trying to figure out a way to absolve themselves of providing the bandwidth that their customers pay for and expect. I am glad that Netflix is starting to try and get out ahead of this.

The trend is moving towards internet based media and that trend won't be slowing down. Better to have the likes of Netflix shaming ISPs in the court of public opinion than to continue hearing from the ISPs about how heavy network users are all just a bunch of outlaw torrent hoodlums.

-Suntan
post #7 of 16
3rd highest
post #8 of 16
Lol, Charter, so highest. Although, they really should separate FiOS subscribers from DSL subscribers in that chart.
post #9 of 16
I dont see how this chart means anything. I mean I can choose between 4 speeds from 1mbit to 12mbit.
post #10 of 16
I'd say it's not very accurate what kind of bitrates I should expect.

post #11 of 16
A lot of lost people in this thread.

Your ISP prioritizes traffic going to you. You can download much faster from microsoft.com than you can from netflix.com. This chart shows which ISPs allow the fastest connectivity to their end users.

This is relevant because cable companies are now buying major TV companies (NBC) and there is some fear that netflix and hulu may have their traffic so de-prioritized that it marginalizes them as competitive providers.
post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by Nebor View Post

A lot of lost people in this thread.

Your ISP prioritizes traffic going to you. You can download much faster from microsoft.com than you can from netflix.com. This chart shows which ISPs allow the fastest connectivity to their end users.

This is relevant because cable companies are now buying major TV companies (NBC) and there is some fear that netflix and hulu may have their traffic so de-prioritized that it marginalizes them as competitive providers.

That could very well be the point of the graph but even streaming Netflex that graph is way off unless the kilobits is a typo that should read kilobytes.
post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by lovemyram4x4 View Post

That could very well be the point of the graph but even streaming Netflex that graph is way off unless the kilobits is a typo that should read kilobytes.

That kilobits is not a typo. Netflix 720p is at 3,800kbps. Lowest bitrate on that graph is just a little under 1,400kbps. If that were KB/s, you'd need to have a constant 11.2 Mbps downlink at the very least.
post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by ilovejedd View Post

That kilobits is not a typo. Netflix 720p is at 3,800kbps. Lowest bitrate on that graph is just a little under 1,400kbps. If that were KB/s, you'd need to have a constant 11.2 Mbps downlink at the very least.

So w/ what you're saying non of us can watch HD from Netflix because including the audio stream it would be 3,928 Kbps and the best ISP on the graph can't even do 2,800 Kbps. That 3,928Kbps is what it takes to stream not the cap on how fast Netfilx can send it since Netflex uses buffers your transfer speeds can but much less and much higher than the bitrate required for the stream, while streaming HD from Netflix I can see my bitrates go over 10Mbps
post #15 of 16
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Originally Posted by Nebor View Post

A lot of lost people in this thread.

Your ISP prioritizes traffic going to you. You can download much faster from microsoft.com than you can from netflix.com. This chart shows which ISPs allow the fastest connectivity to their end users.

This is relevant because cable companies are now buying major TV companies (NBC) and there is some fear that netflix and hulu may have their traffic so de-prioritized that it marginalizes them as competitive providers.

Bingo!

Isn't the FCC wonderful. There's no conflict.
post #16 of 16
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Originally Posted by lovemyram4x4 View Post

So w/ what you're saying non of us can watch HD from Netflix because including the audio stream it would be 3,928 Kbps and the best ISP on the graph can't even do 2,800 Kbps. That 3,928Kbps is what it takes to stream not the cap on how fast Netfilx can send it since Netflex uses buffers your transfer speeds can but much less and much higher than the bitrate required for the stream, while streaming HD from Netflix I can see my bitrates go over 10Mbps

I think if you take some time to look at the graph, and look up the relationship between megabits and megabytes it'll all make sense.

If not, then you're right, the people who wrote the article don't know what they're talking about and I don't know an ethernet jack from a phone jack.
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