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post #211 of 704
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Originally Posted by ferenc_k View Post

Roughly 120 cm high and bit less than 4m far. Works very well this way.

Is this from the bottom of the speaker or the center or top?
post #212 of 704
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Originally Posted by jheyau View Post

This is extremely high praise indeed from someone who owned one of the ultra hi-end audiophile speakers which cost 30-40 times that of the SM60Fs! No wonder every time when I sit down to listen to my "baby Danleys", I still can not believe that such incredibly realistic sound is from my very own system, not sitting at some fancy showroom listening to some hi end system which I could never afford; in fact as I related previously the Danleys sound superior to many of those hi end systems!!!

Agreed!

I am itching for someone to pick up the gauntlet I dropped in this thread:Danley SM60M and Epik Empire: Creating a full range hybrid!
someone with overpriced vanity gear who dares me to bring my SM60M's over to their listening room for comparison.

In this case, due to the SM60M's low frequency cutoff of 200Hz, this shootout would be like tying one of the SM60M's arms behind its back, where the lack of midbass response (without support from bass cabinets) would clearly favor the vanity gear.

Still, I look forward to winnowing out those with both good ears AND integrity from those who need to believe that their Emperor is fully clothed!

When their jaws drop from the sweet musicality, state-of-the-art imaging, dynamics and unprecedented coherence (even positively affecting the reverberent field of the room) of these unpretentious marvels, will their minds stay open?
post #213 of 704
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Originally Posted by kutlow View Post

Forgot to ask this Ivan. On the Crest 9200/Danley 6.5K amp Im going to use one channel for the 3rd DTS 10 and the other channel for the SH69 Center Channel Speaker. So I run the signal from the pre pro sub out to channel A on the amp, The the signal for the center coming from the pre pro to channel B on the amp. Do I leave the switch to parellel or what do I change it to?

STEREO- NOT parallel. If you put in parallel you will send the CH A input to both outputs-NOT what you want
post #214 of 704
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Originally Posted by kutlow View Post
Is this from the bottom of the speaker or the center or top?
from the bottom of the speaker. Sorry for the mess in the picture

post #215 of 704
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Originally Posted by robobob View Post
Agreed!

I am itching for someone to pick up the gauntlet I dropped in this thread:Danley SM60M and Epik Empire: Creating a full range hybrid!
someone with overpriced vanity gear who dares me to bring my SM60M's over to their listening room for comparison.

In this case, due to the SM60M's low frequency cutoff of 200Hz, this shootout would be like tying one of the SM60M's arms behind its back, where the lack of midbass response (without support from bass cabinets) would clearly favor the vanity gear.

Still, I look forward to winnowing out those with both good ears AND integrity from those who need to believe that their Emperor is fully clothed!

When their jaws drop from the sweet musicality, state-of-the-art imaging, dynamics and unprecedented coherence (even positively affecting the reverberent field of the room) of these unpretentious marvels, will their minds stay open?

Well it is a long story and I could write a book about my experience with all kinds of Danleys against all kinds of much more expensive speaker at home environment. I used to say: a PA speaker can be used at home, but a high-end audio speaker almost never could be used for PA

The SM60's smoothness and easy integration with a sub plus its dispersion control and easy driveability makes it very flexible option for all rooms and systems and for all kinds of music genres (minus the look). I honestly can say, because it is not a matter of subjectivity, that the SM60 is probably the most flexible and universally predictable high-end audio speaker I have ever tried. Very difficult to go wrong with it. I tried it with my son's Parasound zAmp and zPre, and the sound was absolutely wonderful with those tiny boxes driven from an an iPod Touch and with some 15m long pro speaker cables we use for PA.
Nothing was missing and not even added. Just pure entertaining and emotional music.
post #216 of 704
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Originally Posted by Ivan Beaver View Post
STEREO- NOT parallel. If you put in parallel you will send the CH A input to both outputs-NOT what you want
Thanks Ivan.
post #217 of 704
Im on my way to pick up my Danleys. Pics and thoughts very soon.
post #218 of 704
Ahead of schedule - nice!
post #219 of 704
I picked up my 2 SH50 1 SH69 and 4 SH100 Today. Ohmy they are beautiful to look at. The look is amazing. Will post pics later. I got to go to my brothers and feed his dogsince he is away on a cruise.
post #220 of 704
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Originally Posted by kutlow View Post

I picked up my 2 SH50 1 SH69 and 4 SH100 Today. Ohmy they are beautiful to look at. The look is amazing. Will post pics later. I got to go to my brothers and feed his dogsince he is away on a cruise.

Congratulations! You unloaded them all by yourself?!
Looking forward to admire those cabinets and share your excitement!
post #221 of 704
Thread Starter 
Here we go...

My weekend is ruined though - everything is in place but the custom Vovox cables will be here not before Monday...

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post #222 of 704
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The SH-50 are waiting to be placed. The Parasound JC-1s have arrived and are burning in all day long.

You also see my Genelecs 1037Cs (4 of which will be my surrounds together with the Danleys) and a Seaton Catalyst 12C (trying really hard to keep up with the Genelecs performance-wise ).

A Prism Sound Orpheus is driving the setup. Not just the best DAC but the best piece of equipment in general I have ever owned.
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post #223 of 704
The custom finishes are quite impressive! Makes me wish I did the same thing. Let me know how you like them man!




Forin
post #224 of 704
Lion,

Those SH50s look gorgeous! Did they come without the grill covers? I recommend draping a light cloth over them when they are not in use to prevent dust getting into the horn mouth and throat. I was doing that when I had the covers of my SM60Fs off.

What subwoofer is that in the corner? I don't recall you ever mentioned them.
post #225 of 704
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Originally Posted by jheyau View Post

Lion,

Those SH50s look gorgeous! Did they come without the grill covers? I recommend draping a light cloth over them when they are not in use to prevent dust getting into the horn mouth and throat. I was doing that when I had the covers of my SM60Fs off.

What subwoofer is that in the corner? I don't recall you ever mentioned them.

Thanks. They came with grill covers and a cloth.

I have dual SVS PB-13 Ultras piano gloss. Waiting for Mark Seaton to release his 18" SubMersive XLs...

It will be quite interesting to see what happens if you match the SH-50 with an accepted reference class amp like the JC-1 and one of the best DACs money can buy. I guess this hasn't been done all to often yet.
post #226 of 704
As others have the said the finish looks great!
post #227 of 704
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Originally Posted by forin View Post

The custom finishes are quite impressive! Makes me wish I did the same thing. Let me know how you like them man!




Forin

Just something to think about. The biggest expense in the cabinets is the horn and the drivers/crossover etc. The finish is on the outer shell.

It would be possible to order a custom finish outer shell and then move "the guts" into it.


All of the "innards" on the Sh50/60/69 are attached to the horn itself. So remove the front and side bolts and the whole horn comes out and then would slide into a new shell. It could be a 10 minute job for each cabinet.
post #228 of 704
Those certainly look like speakers I would want in my home...

Is one lighter of tone? It looks like that in the picture where you can see one of the 12" drivers through the holes inside the horn.
post #229 of 704
Ivan for typical speakers they say it's best to have the tweeter at ear level. I've read that Danley Speakers seem to sound better if they are alittle higher. I also know these speakers are usually higher than the audience. While reclined back in my seats my ear is at 38 inches off the floor. I could sit them on top of my DTS 10'S which is 45 inches from the floor. That would put the center of the horn 59 inches from the floor. I could tilt them down some. Would that be ok or should I build a stand to get them centered at ear level?
post #230 of 704
Lion I think some of us are as excited about this as you are What made you go with the Parasounds ? I am still on the fence what I want to go with on my future Danleys (I have settled on getting them sometime this year). I cannot decide between a class D something (Pro amps?) or some used Bryston amps.
post #231 of 704
Mark,

How about some initial impressions and images; have you put them to work with any movies yet?

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Originally Posted by kutlow View Post

Ivan for typical speakers they say it's best to have the tweeter at ear level. I've read that Danley Speakers seem to sound better if they are alittle higher. I also know these speakers are usually higher than the audience. While reclined back in my seats my ear is at 38 inches off the floor. I could sit them on top of my DTS 10'S which is 45 inches from the floor. That would put the center of the horn 59 inches from the floor. I could tilt them down some. Would that be ok or should I build a stand to get them centered at ear level?
post #232 of 704
I got them unpacked but not set up yet. My entire theater is going through a transformation.
2 SH 50 Touring Version
1 SH 69 Touring Version
4 SH 100 Cinema
Marantz AV 7005 Processor
JVC RS 40 3D Projector
2 CREST 9200
3 CREST 8200

My amps dont ship until next friday. The look of all these speakers is very very nice and sends a strong message. You dont walk into Best Buy and see these.

UPS FREIGHT


ON Trailer


SH50


SH69 UNPACKING





SH69 I will have to build a bigger stand



4 SH100 CINEMA




AMP RACK with Marantz AV7005 and one Crest 9200


Three DTS 10


Now so none of you Green Peace Activists get mad about all the electric getting used I planted 3 new Magnolia's to give back. lmao
post #233 of 704
Jeeze Kutlow you have my dream setup


I think I will end up with the SH50 SH69 SH100 setup (not sure about the subs yet) but first I will buy a RS40 and some AT screen (130" ?). I can use the Danley with my current Rotel 5.1 75w setup until I can afford the amps and Datasat AP20. But I am still going back and forth on the amps, so I would like to know what made you go with the Crest amps.
post #234 of 704
Cool to see these very different looking versions of the same speakers unpacked "live" on a single forum page!

I was just discussing with Jeff/Scott which finish looked best...
post #235 of 704
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Originally Posted by kutlow View Post

Ivan for typical speakers they say it's best to have the tweeter at ear level. I've read that Danley Speakers seem to sound better if they are alittle higher. I also know these speakers are usually higher than the audience. While reclined back in my seats my ear is at 38 inches off the floor. I could sit them on top of my DTS 10'S which is 45 inches from the floor. That would put the center of the horn 59 inches from the floor. I could tilt them down some. Would that be ok or should I build a stand to get them centered at ear level?

To be honest, I have not played with different listening heights.

However if you have several rows of seating, then having them higher is a very good thing and the heads in front will block some of the sound going to the people in the rear. Think "shooting over the heads" type of thing.

You also have to consider that when a particular person says a loudspeaker sound better at a higher position-it could be totally true-IN THEIR ROOM. The reflection paths of a particular room can affect the overall "sound".

Given "total freedom" to put loudspeakers where I would like, I would like to see a perf screen and the center channel in the middle behind that. The reason being that you would be drawn towards the screen (not above or below).

For the left and right I would like to see them up a bit and aimed down towards the seats. The reason being that in most cases the most absorbtive "place" in the room is the floor-between the carpet-couches/recliners etc-people and so forth. This would keep the reflections down, and would drive the reflections off of the walls down "into" the diffusive/absorbtive" character of the floor, where it will not "bounce around" the room as much-so the overall "sound" of the room would be better.

The less the room changes the sound the better you will hear what the audio mixer on the project wants you to hear.

Of course the surrounds should be pointed down towards the listening area-for the same reasons as the mains.
post #236 of 704
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Originally Posted by kutlow View Post

I got them unpacked but not set up yet. My entire theater is going through a transformation.
2 SH 50 Touring Version
1 SH 69 Touring Version
4 SH 100 Cinema
Marantz AV 7005 Processor
JVC RS 40 3D Projector
2 CREST 9200
3 CREST 8200

My amps dont ship until next friday. The look of all these speakers is very very nice and sends a strong message. You dont walk into Best Buy and see these.

Great selection of gear Kutlow! This is one ultimate 7.1 setup I can't wait to see the inroom pics when it's all in place. CONGRATULATIONS!
post #237 of 704
kutlow,

Wow, so many Danley cabinets in one HT! I'm sure those handles of the touring version come in handy when you unpacked them.
post #238 of 704
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Originally Posted by Ivan Beaver View Post

To be honest, I have not played with different listening heights.

However if you have several rows of seating, then having them higher is a very good thing and the heads in front will block some of the sound going to the people in the rear. Think "shooting over the heads" type of thing.

You also have to consider that when a particular person says a loudspeaker sound better at a higher position-it could be totally true-IN THEIR ROOM. The reflection paths of a particular room can affect the overall "sound".

Given "total freedom" to put loudspeakers where I would like, I would like to see a perf screen and the center channel in the middle behind that. The reason being that you would be drawn towards the screen (not above or below).

For the left and right I would like to see them up a bit and aimed down towards the seats. The reason being that in most cases the most absorbtive "place" in the room is the floor-between the carpet-couches/recliners etc-people and so forth. This would keep the reflections down, and would drive the reflections off of the walls down "into" the diffusive/absorbtive" character of the floor, where it will not "bounce around" the room as much-so the overall "sound" of the room would be better.

The less the room changes the sound the better you will hear what the audio mixer on the project wants you to hear.

Of course the surrounds should be pointed down towards the listening area-for the same reasons as the mains.

I only have one row of seats (4) in my room. Does leaving the grills and the cloth on the speaker hurt much?
post #239 of 704
Thanks for all the nice comments guys. As soon as I get everything set up and in the right place Ill post better pics and give you my impressions.

I really like the look of the touring version on these speakers. Makes them look manly. Im sure in my small room these things will be coasting along.

I got word from Danley they can split a TH221 into two seperate subs. So I think for many of you guys who only need one will be very happy with a TH121. Im going to get everything up and running and take some measurements. Then Im going back to Danley to hear the TH221 again and the TH121 if they decide to make it as a stocked item. As impressed as I was with the SH50, SH69 demo the TH221 stole the show.
post #240 of 704
Kutlow is that screen of yours AT ? Plan to put the Danleys behind it ?
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