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post #211 of 348
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Originally Posted by TranzorZ View Post

Hi everbody,

I'm new to the forum, so I apologize in advance if this isnt the correct thread to ask this, but does anyone know if the vizio 65 is being discontinued? I've pretty much decided that this is the tv I want but can't seem to find this tv at costo, walmart, sam's (non auction) or bj's (want to avoid amazon as well). is it normal for this tv to go out of stock periodically?

thanks for any help!

You're in the right place to ask.

Not that I've heard, but TV's refresh fast anymore and this one came out in December 2010, so you never know.
post #212 of 348
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Originally Posted by TranzorZ View Post

Hi everbody,

I'm new to the forum, so I apologize in advance if this isnt the correct thread to ask this, but does anyone know if the vizio 65 is being discontinued? I've pretty much decided that this is the tv I want but can't seem to find this tv at costo, walmart, sam's (non auction) or bj's (want to avoid amazon as well). is it normal for this tv to go out of stock periodically?

thanks for any help!

Radio Shack lists them, Sam's has them back in stock to order online ATM. I think Cleveland Plasma, one of the forum sponsors at the top of the page, has them as well...
post #213 of 348
When are they ever going to come out with video playback via the USB? I tried to go with external media player and NAS, but non-supportability of various formats via DLNA made me abandon that path. Just want to go thru plain USB for ease of use.

Anyone know how other vizio TV's video playback via USB is? If it is limited in formats, then I would assume this won't be any better and won't wait around for it.


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Originally Posted by TranzorZ View Post

Hi everbody,

I'm new to the forum, so I apologize in advance if this isnt the correct thread to ask this, but does anyone know if the vizio 65 is being discontinued? I've pretty much decided that this is the tv I want but can't seem to find this tv at costo, walmart, sam's (non auction) or bj's (want to avoid amazon as well). is it normal for this tv to go out of stock periodically?

thanks for any help!

That's what it seemed like. When I went to get mine, they ran out and was only selling the display model. I thought it must be end of life and they are clearing the space for newer models so I grabbed it. Then a few weeks later, I saw it back on the shelf again. Not sure why they were selling the display model when it wasn't being discontinued.
post #214 of 348
I just received mine yesterday, love it, love it, love it....

Question though, I programmed the remote to work on my Dish box. Well, I can't seem to turn the tv on or off anymore with the remote, it will only control the Dish box.

I also can't mess with the picture settings while viewing a show. Again the remote only wants to control the Dish box now.

The ticker at the bottom of ESPN, the words start out white, but once they start moving they turn yellow.

Any help?
post #215 of 348
Ok, figured out my previous questions.

I do however have another problem. I have all my devices ( PS3, Wii, Dish box) hooked to my Yamaha receiver. When I go to stream a movie through Vudu within the Vizio apps, I am still getting the sound from whatever I am watching on Dish. Do I have to run another HDMI from the TV back to the receiver and make a new input for it in my receiver?
post #216 of 348
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Originally Posted by kennya View Post

Ok, figured out my previous questions.

I do however have another problem. I have all my devices ( PS3, Wii, Dish box) hooked to my Yamaha receiver. When I go to stream a movie through Vudu within the Vizio apps, I am still getting the sound from whatever I am watching on Dish. Do I have to run another HDMI from the TV back to the receiver and make a new input for it in my receiver?

Yeah, I think you'd have to run something from the TV back to your Yamaha.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but all of those other sources go to the Yamaha and then to the TV. The VIA apps stream right to the TV with your WiFi (thus bypassing the Yamaha), so you need to send the audio (preferably with the optical audio jack) back to an input on your Yamaha. Then, need to select that input when streaming with Vudu. You'll have to select the external speaker source on the Vizio.

Sounds like your set up calls for a Harmony One remote from Santa.

Ho ho ho.
post #217 of 348
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Originally Posted by OconRecon View Post

Sounds like your set up calls for a Harmony One remote from Santa.

So the Harmony One will control the XVT3D650SV? I have not received delivery of my Vizio yet, maybe Monday. I know the remote is a Blue Tooth remote and was wondering if the Harmony One would be able to control the TV. I have a Harmony One and love it. Once set up, which is very easy, it makes control of my system quite simple. The added plus is I don't get grief anymore from the wife for having 5 or 6 remotes laying out at one time.
post #218 of 348
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Originally Posted by Bama29 View Post


So the Harmony One will control the XVT3D650SV? I have not received delivery of my Vizio yet, maybe Monday. I know the remote is a Blue Tooth remote and was wondering if the Harmony One would be able to control the TV. I have a Harmony One and love it. Once set up, which is very easy, it makes control of my system quite simple. The added plus is I don't get grief anymore from the wife for having 5 or 6 remotes laying out at one time.

That's a good thought.

I went to Logitech's website and entered in the model #, and it says it does.

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/remotes


Logitech has fantastic customer service and it may be worth a chat or call before buying just to confirm. Their help line during set up is one of the main reasons to buy from them, IMO.
post #219 of 348
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Originally Posted by OconRecon View Post


Yeah, I think you'd have to run something from the TV back to your Yamaha.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but all of those other sources go to the Yamaha and then to the TV. The VIA apps stream right to the TV with your WiFi (thus bypassing the Yamaha), so you need to send the audio (preferably with the optical audio jack) back to an input on your Yamaha. Then, need to select that input when streaming with Vudu. You'll have to select the external speaker source on the Vizio.

Sounds like your set up calls for a Harmony One remote from Santa.

Ho ho ho.

Thanks for the response OconRecon. So would the ARC work for this? My Yamaha supports it, I tried setting it up, but it doesn't work. Could be that I am doing something wrong, or ARC won't work for this?

I do need a good remote to control all of this stuff... LOL!

UPDATE... Yes, ARC works fine, I just didn't have the CEC settings turned on in the TV. All is good and I am loving this tv!
post #220 of 348
The delivery folks made a visit this morning and I am now elbow deep in trying to figure out what goes where and why! My first impression is that this is a very nice set. I am coming from a Toshiba Regza 670U full array local dimming set and was a bit worried about the blacks. At first glance that is a non issue. The Vizio has very nice blacks indeed.

I do have a question. How is the firmware updated on this set? Is it an automatic process where the update is pushed out to the HDTV'S? I could find no mention of updates in the manual. I have a wired connection and all that seems to work well. I think the version of Firmware I have is VIZIO_XP1.28.0.2.
post #221 of 348
The firmware just gets pushed out. Not everybody gets it the same time. Anyway, isn't it time to fulfill all the featured that was promised like HDMI ARC, CEC and USB video playback? Does Vizio even upgrade discontinued products?

Anyone know the spec of the upcoming M3D650SV? Could a model that's almost half the MSRP of this unit be better?
post #222 of 348
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Originally Posted by lwang View Post

The firmware just gets pushed out. Not everybody gets it the same time. Anyway, isn't it time to fulfill all the featured that was promised like HDMI ARC, CEC and USB video playback? Does Vizio even upgrade discontinued products?

When I turned on the set this morning the message that the firmware was updating popped on the screen. The version is now XP2.7.9.1. Apparently that was August 9, 2011 firmware.
post #223 of 348
I just finished watching "Pirates of the Caribbean - On Stranger Tides" in 3D. I think this movie was actually shot in 3D and not a conversion. Very nice indeed. The passive glasses are very light and did not notice them much at all. The Vizio does an excellent job!
post #224 of 348
I decided to pull out the meter last night and do a quick grey scale calibration on the XVT3D650SV. I have to say I was impressed with the controls on the Vizio. Each of the Red Green and Blue Offsets and Gains appeared to operate independently without affecting the other controls. This made it very easy to dial in each point without having to constantly go back and forth. The end result was a very flat gamma and De well below what is required.
post #225 of 348
Just picked up this set in closeout at BJs after returning an LG 5600. First impressions were very good until I tried playing Gears of War 3, then Captain America 3d. There seems to be a motion blur during fast movement, I have game mode on and smoothing and all the other processing features off. It appeared in Cap as a reddish trail on fleshtones during the cab chase scene. I know Cnet mentioned something about smearing on red objects during their review, but this is really distracting. I had a Vizio ED47 3d set earlier and it had none of these issues. Anyone else experienced this effect, or have any solutions?
post #226 of 348
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Originally Posted by Ikari Warrior View Post

Just picked up this set in closeout at BJs after returning an LG 5600. First impressions were very good until I tried playing Gears of War 3, then Captain America 3d. There seems to be a motion blur during fast movement, I have game mode on and smoothing and all the other processing features off. It appeared in Cap as a reddish trail on fleshtones during the cab chase scene. I know Cnet mentioned something about smearing on red objects during their review, but this is really distracting. I had a Vizio ED47 3d set earlier and it had none of these issues. Anyone else experienced this effect, or have any solutions?

I too just bought this TV and noticing a lot of motion blur (much more than other Vizio LCD TVs in the house). Frankly I'm a bit surprised that no one else has really mentioned this in this long thread, not to mention in reviews. So far searching the web I only found two reviews that mention "minor" blurring. I wouldn't classify this as minor. Other than the blurring the picture quality is fantastic!

Also as a note I've tried the two PQ adjustments mentioned in this thread with no luck on reducing the blur (including turning off all image processing options and turning on/off game mode).
post #227 of 348
So I read up on a number of online website reviews and they all mentioned smearing during fast action scenes. I can't believe this hasn't been mentioned on here or on amazon or vision review pages. Its there but not too bad in movies, but it makes gaming like Call of Duty or Gears a mess. The screen is so beautiful and huge during still shots that this smearing in heartbreaking. I wish I knew if the M3D650SV was going to have this as well, if not I would just wait it out until January....
post #228 of 348
RedTechie, thanks...nice to know I'm not the only one seeing it. My E series 47" set had no evidence of this at all. It may be due to the 65 being last years model or the first passive panel, or just due to issues from manufacturing of a panel this size...now I'm curious about the M series that is just coming out now.
post #229 of 348
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Originally Posted by Ikari Warrior View Post

RedTechie, thanks...nice to know I'm not the only one seeing it. My E series 47" set had no evidence of this at all. It may be due to the 65 being last years model or the first passive panel, or just due to issues from manufacturing of a panel this size...now I'm curious about the M series that is just coming out now.

Yeah, I have a Vizio E3D320VX (Passive 3D LCD) and LOVE IT! So I figured the 65" would give me the same result on a 65" panel... Was I wrong. Once you see the motion blur you really can't un-see it...

I wish I could of bought this TV from a local store as I would be returning it. But I bought it through a third party seller on Amazon and have a feeling there will be a restocking fee, not to mention crazy freight shipping charges.

I'm going to try and contact Vizio's support and see what they say about it. Here's hoping that it was a defect in recent panels
post #230 of 348
Good luck contacting them...I hope you get some answers. Although from the cnet review and others it seems like the issue has been there from the beginning. Let me know what you find out!
post #231 of 348
Good day fella's just reporting in; I turned the set on evening of 12/11/11 and was greeted with the message that my TV was updating my current version of software MP-XP2.7.9_RC1 with MPVIA3D-XP5.0.1.0-S ? The update date showed 12/07/11. I have no idea what that all means ... just reporting it. Also after the TV rebooted I also had a new widget notification. Since I don't use any of that I didn't check it out.

I'm sorry to hear the reports of major fast motion blurring and discoloration. So far (two months + ) it hasn't been an issue with mine. I'm sure I have the minor blurring but that too has gone un-noticed by me. I guess I should begin watching for it when playing back movies. Though I do wonder if there could be more pronounced blurring issue differences from panel to panel. I heard LG makes these panels for VIZIO ?
post #232 of 348
Good to hear CharGriller...I don't see the blur too much with movies, only slightly and especially around reds, blacks, or fleshtones. It's much more tolerable for movies, and could almost go unnoticed. It's gaming where it becomes almost unbearable, a game with fast movement like COD looks like a smeared watercolor painting.
post #233 of 348
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Originally Posted by CharGriller View Post

Good day fella's just reporting in; I turned the set on evening of 12/11/11 and was greeted with the message that my TV was updating my current version of software MP-XP2.7.9_RC1 with MPVIA3D-XP5.0.1.0-S ? The update date showed 12/07/11. I have no idea what that all means ... just reporting it. Also after the TV rebooted I also had a new widget notification.

Thanks for the report. Good to know updates are still coming out.
post #234 of 348
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I just received my update too. Same date & version as previously mentioned.

I don't immediately notice any changes. Maybe a few minor widgets. Perhaps it's the common "bug fixes" as a follow up to the last update, which was big.
LL
post #235 of 348
So just an update to my uneven backlighting issue. After speaking with Vizio customer support and sending the images I attached to my earlier post they agreed to send me a replacement set.

The replacement set arrived several days later and I'm somewhat saddened to report that the new set exhibits the exact same unevenness across the top edge in bright scenes as the original.

Again, this is not the edge lighting "bleed" or clouding that is the weakness of many LED edge lit sets on the market that is described when the video image is dark/black. This Vizio has extremely deep blacks and I don't see any bleeding or clouding at all on dark scenes

What is plaguing my first and now second replacement set is not noticeable on most programming but is most pronounced when the image on screen is bright and in motion. Such as when a camera pans around a room with white walls or with a light sky. This is when you will notice a fixed grey splotchyness across the upper portion of the screen.

My wife and I tend to watch a lot of HGTV and almost every show involves a camera panning around a home with white walls!!!!
post #236 of 348
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Wait, just found a YouTube widget. Although I can't get it to work. Anyone else?
post #237 of 348
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Originally Posted by OconRecon View Post

Wait, just found a YouTube widget. Although I can't get it to work. Anyone else?


Yes ...it works for me. Although because of my slow broadband speed I have to wait quite awhile for it to down load the selected utube video. I will have to do a serious upgrade to enjoy all the internet benifits.

On another note ... I noticed that the last software update included the word 3D in the code line. I thought that maybe .... that possibly VIZIO might have fixed my inability to view 3D off my DISH satellite receiver. No such luck. Does anyone out there know if it would even be possible that VIZIO could update something inside the TV that would be able to make sense out of the Dish 3D signal? Negating us having to purchase the extra very expensive DVR from Dish TV?
post #238 of 348
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Originally Posted by CharGriller View Post

... extra very expensive DVR from Dish TV?

Do you have a DVR now? I'm pretty sure non-DVR Dish receivers can't do 3D.
post #239 of 348
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Originally Posted by OconRecon View Post

Wait, just found a YouTube widget. Although I can't get it to work. Anyone else?

My set finally did the update. I went and tried YouTube and it works very well for me. A few second delay while it buffers up front, but then streams at a very good quality.
post #240 of 348
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Originally Posted by OconRecon View Post

Do you have a DVR now? I'm pretty sure non-DVR Dish receivers can't do 3D.

Oh yes I have the Dish 722 DVR. Dish receivers can't decode 3D like DirecTV DVR does. As I posted on another page if I want broadcast 3D content to display I need to buy (as in own it myself) a model 924 I think. Problem being that DVR costs $ 649.00. So the only 3D content I can watch is rented 3D movies played back through my Samsung DVD player.

I see so many live sports broadcast that when I check to see if their broadcast in 3D ... they are. When I change my Vizio to 3D mode and enable it, don the glasses, the picture is screwed up unwatchable. I've tried all the 3D modes to no avail. So I called Dish customer service and they affirmed their DVR doesn't unscramble the signal. Bummer. So I was hoping just maybe Vizio might be able to program something with a software update that would enable the Vizio to decode the Dish 3D DVR signal.
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