Official OPPO BDP-95 Owner's Thread - Page 337

To avoid using an HDMI switch I'd like to take the HDMI output of my Oppo BDP-95 through my DVDO iScan Duo to my Cary Cinema 11a. The video from the Cary goes directly to a Sony VPL-50 projecting onto a 100" screen. Are there any known problems with such a link? The iScan Duo is currently handling only output from a DirecTV HD-DVR. I don't want to degrade the excellent video I enjoy from the Oppo. Are there video settings I need to attend to?

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This makes more sense to me. For it to dematrix rear channel(s) wouldn't there need to be something matrixed into the side channels to begin with, like DTS-ES?

Otherwise if they are so smart why does Oppo always say they can't decode matrixed DTS-ES?

The player is not "matrixing" anything, its simply duplicating the sides in the rears. Blame DTS, its their licensing requirement. Solution is to set the player to 5.1 downmix if you don't want it.

I just replaced my 95 with the 105. I've always used the AIX calibration disc 5.1 LPCM channel balance signal to calibrate my system. I usually do an A-B repeat on each channel so I can stay there until I get it where I need it...going in and out of the speaker configurator. I know the manual says that some dics won't allow A-B replay or a repeat but I've never met a calibration disc that wouldn't allow it. And I could swear that I could A-B with the AIX disc and the 95. Just now re-calibrated my system with the 105 in the mix but the remote would not allow A-B or repeat......very annoying though it was still easy enough..just took a bit longer. Anyone know what gives??? I have the latest 1220 FW on the 105.

^ Answered where you also posted this in the 105 thread.
--Bob

I don't see how you get to this conclusion from what I quoted from Oppo. It looks to me like they just use a version of what is common to both surrounds to make the rear channels. I'm not sure why this is a bad thing, since it make the Oppo usable for 7.1 on analog for DTS.

Today it happened for the second time within a week that the Oppo didn't boot correctly. Somewhere the booting process stopped. On the Oppo display appeared the text 'OPPO' (it doesn't make it to 'NO DISC') and nothing on the TV screen.
I restarted and everything went normal. I haven't installed an update lately.
Any ideas?

Your player may need service. It could have a power supply problem for example.

Are you using the latest firmware or still running an old firmware (e.g., ISO capable)?

The usual next step whenever the player is behaving oddly is to do a fresh firmware install and a complete reset of the player (including a power off and pulling the power cord for about 10 seconds after that Reset Factory Defaults). This may cure the problem, but if not, it puts the player in a known state for further checks.

Send OPPO Tech Support an email with the details including the Main, Loader and Sub/MCU firmware version numbers (Setup > Device Setup > Firmware Information).
--Bob

Thanks for the replies.
I have followed Bob's advice and installed a clean update. If it happens again I shall try a new HDMI cable.

When I asked Oppo to clarify, they said is is just a duplication for DTS.

I'm back to my original frustration of why I'd want to use this player in a 7.1 system if I'm not going to have any sound from the rears on half of my discs. Ideally, they;d have PLIIx available at the player level, but that is clearly not going to happen.

Nobody promised you it would.

I'm not sure what this means. Is this promise that I'd want to use this player in a 7.1 system?

Correct. Surround processing is the provenance of the AV processor, not the source player.
Yes, a process like PLIIx is a considerably different value proposition than a Y splitter.
I cannot speak to the rationale for putting better DACs (or any DACs) in a BD player intended to feed an AV processor. But being "forced" to use HDMI is a pretty good alternative. It enables digital transfer of high quality multichannel audio, something that was not possible otherwise.
Why not use the Oppo just for SACDs and get a $100 Sony BD player for all BD contents via HDMI?
Edited by Roger Dressler - 1/20/13 at 10:07pm

Hi,

Question about Oppo supported file system structures for USB flash drives.

Which file system structures does Oppo 95 support for playing a large file (23GB) from an USB flash drive?

FAT (or FAT32) does not support these large files so that is a no go.
I read somewhere that NTFS is supported by Oppo but I don't have windows.
So the question really is, does the Oppo 95 support ext3, ext4 or apple's HFS ?

Thanks!

You need to use NTFS for files larger than 4 gb. I don't have windows either but downloaded a trial utility that will format NTFS on a mac. I later deleted it in favor of a free utility that came with my toshiba 1 tb hard drive. The utility will initialize and format any drive usb, hard, etc.

What about movies that don't use all the pixels on your TV - does that bother you too?

Seriously though, if 7.1 is that important you just need to make sure you have the right preamp/processor. Something from Lexicon on the used market would do quite nicely, if you want to keep the '95. I don't know if any universal players have Neo:6 or PLIIx analog out. The flagship Panasonic might, or you could add a cheap Sony just for movies, but how many 7.1 channel inputs does your current preamp have?
Edited by AVfile - 1/21/13 at 9:34am

What is this "new" pre-pro?

This is the BDP-95 thread. That player adds audiophile DACs on the analog outputs. The idea is those would be better than the DACs of your pre-pro, except for super high end pre-pros. If you are going to go back to processing on your pre-pro, that defeats the value of the 95. So 5 years ago, maybe the analog was in case your pre-pro didn't have lossless processing. But now its more to get a higher quality DAC performance. If none of that matters, then get a 93, or a cheaper player. If you don't have a 7.1 system, then none of this matters to you. But it does to me. My room is set up for 7.1. That was done 13 years ago and would be tough to change now.

The new Oppo does have Neo:6, but they only put it in for stereo to multi-channel, not to fill in the rears. So the easiest way, and probably the best way, to implement 7.1 is from HDMI on your pre-pro. So that is back to where I started - i see no need ot buy another Oppo. This is my 3rd. I'm getting very little value over a basic blu ray model. Maybe some 2-channel SACDs. DTS for sure is spot on will all 7 channels.

Speaking of music, I have rush 2112 in DTS-MA in my bag from work. I'm glad they choose DTS, so I get all 7 channels from the Oppo. I'm going to check it out now.

On the TV, back in the day I looked for anamorphic DVDs to use all those pixels. Now I have plenty of pixels.

The Moving Pictures blu-ray audio disc also comes with a 96khz, 24bit DTS HD-MA mix

They have the same stats for 2112. It was just released. This one has cool cartoon 2d shots going, which is a good idea for a Blu Ray audio. When I listened to Moving Pictures with a friend the first time last year, the mix sounded funny on my system. Then we read in the liner notes somewhere to really crank it up. That worked. 2112 seems to be the same way, it sound right cranked up. You really get the dynamics on the Blu Ray version. These two were a nice touch to the catalog.

Is the better quality DAC configuration in the two RCA and two XLR stereo outputs? The DACs in the 7 channel RCA analog out isn't quite as good?

I've been looking in the PDF and can't seem to find it.

Currently I am connecting the OPPO to my Marantz projector with video component analog cables. The projector does not have HDMI. Would it be worth buying a HDFury component to HDMI converter for $250.00 so that I can watch up-converted DVD's via HDMI? Is the upc-nverted DVD image that much better than straight DVD?

I would be reluctant to put new money into component video. It has no future.

You might try a calibration disc with test patterns. Look at it on your system, then maybe take your player to a friend who has an HDMI display and compare as well as you can.

Upconversion of DVD (to 1080i) is allowed for DVDs that do not have CSS copy protection. DVDs made by backup software are an example. You might try a disc with and without CSS to see if there is a difference.

For best results, always calibrate the display.

-Bill

I'm new to this forum. This a pretty big thread, which I intend to read little by little. Right now I'm interested in information on Oppo 95 region modification. I successfully installed the pro card, and I know how to change region and area codes. I'm wondering if it's possible to display current codes on the Oppo through settings or whatever. I don't see how to do it. Does anyone know where the info on modding starts? Even an approximation would help. Thanks.

I need to revise my post. DTS confirmed that this condition is in fact how remapping works when a single pair of surround signals is presented on a 7.1 system. I had previously thought that remapping only happened with DTS 7.1 content.

Well that's one way to build a system I guess, but not ideal as you've found out. For multi-channel sound, better DACs without the right processing means nothing. I always thought (hoped) most people that made an informed decision to get the 95 over the 93 have an HT that doubles as a high-end stereo, possibly with an analog preamp that benefits from balanced XLR, otherwise there will be Dacs wasted somewhere in the system.
Edited by AVfile - 1/22/13 at 7:10pm

So how do they reconcile that with the fact that decoding 5.1 DTS-HD MA to HDMI LPCM results in 5.1 LPCM even though the AVR can accept 7.1 LPCM.

It really does sound like they've simply added complexity for complexities sake. People listening to a 5.1 track should get 5.1 speaker output by default.
--Bob

 

Congratulation does it sound better?

That would NOT be cool if it sent fake 7.1 LPCM!