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post #10891 of 11017
Thank you Bob, but it's not very reasonable and quite expensive solution for me.
post #10892 of 11017
^ It's not clear what you are trying to accomplish then. If the question is can you hook up both HDMI and Analog from the OPPO to the Marantz the answer is yes. You'll need to switch the Marantz to use whichever you want to listen to at the moment.

If you want to BYPASS the Marantz for Analog audio you'll either need a separate amp/speakers for the bypass or you'll need some sort of switch to connect the Marantz back into your existing speakers when you want to go back to playing through the Marantz.
--Bob
post #10893 of 11017
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ It's not clear what you are trying to accomplish then. If the question is can you hook up both HDMI and Analog from the OPPO to the Marantz the answer is yes. You'll need to switch the Marantz to use whichever you want to listen to at the moment.

If you want to BYPASS the Marantz for Analog audio you'll either need a separate amp/speakers for the bypass or you'll need some sort of switch to connect the Marantz back into your existing speakers when you want to go back to playing through the Marantz.
--Bob

I have the BDP-105 hooked to the 7.1 analog inputs and HDMI1 connected to the AV8801.
I use a programmable remote to switch on the fly between HDMI audio and the 7.1 analog audio using the same Blu-ray input on the AV8801.

I do not recommend using the two BDP outputs to drive one source that does volume control and another that does not, like an amp.
The AV8801 wants maximum volume and the amp needs the BDP to do volume control.
Such a configuration is prone to mistakes which will, at the least, startle you and could potentially damage your equipment.

- Rich
post #10894 of 11017
Ok, is there such a device (with XLR inputs and remote control) that could stand up to the power amplifier input and could switch between the receiver (FL/FR pre-out) and analog output Oppo 95?
post #10895 of 11017
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Originally Posted by Mixin View Post

Ok, is there such a device (with XLR inputs and remote control) that could stand up to the power amplifier input and could switch between the receiver (FL/FR pre-out) and analog output Oppo 95?

You could look at the Parasound P5 and P7 but there is only 1 set of XLR inputs so you cannot use the XLR outs of both.
However, there really should be no difference in audio quality on a short run.

- Rich
post #10896 of 11017
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

You could look at the Parasound P5 and P7 but there is only 1 set of XLR inputs so you cannot use the XLR outs of both.
However, there really should be no difference in audio quality on a short run.
- Rich

I've already tried this option. These preamps negatively affect the quality. Need some neutral device.
post #10897 of 11017
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Originally Posted by Mixin View Post

I've already tried this option. These preamps negatively affect the quality. Need some neutral device.

Have you compared these preamps to the BDP-105 directly connected to the amp and found a significant difference?

I have compared preamps (not those) using an XLR switch level matched and there were subtle differences but it took some serious listening to discern them. I do not think I could have reliably made that determination without instantaneously switching the outputs.

I have also found these settings for the AV8801 provide the most neutral result in Pure Direct mode.

- Rich
post #10898 of 11017
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

Have you compared these preamps to the BDP-105 directly connected to the amp and found a significant difference?
With P7 and BDP-95, yes. I find the difference is quite noticeable.
post #10899 of 11017
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Originally Posted by Mixin View Post

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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

You could look at the Parasound P5 and P7 but there is only 1 set of XLR inputs so you cannot use the XLR outs of both.
However, there really should be no difference in audio quality on a short run.
- Rich

I've already tried this option. These preamps negatively affect the quality. Need some neutral device.

A remote controlled, passive, line-level RCA switch shouldn't be hard to find. XLR might be a bit tougher, but also shouldn't be hard. I'd probably start looking at Monoprice and Gefen.
--Bob
post #10900 of 11017
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

A remote controlled, passive, line-level RCA switch shouldn't be hard to find. XLR might be a bit tougher, but also shouldn't be hard. I'd probably start looking at Monoprice and Gefen.
--Bob

If you are only use the BDP analog outs directly to the amp (switched), you can set volume to variable since it does not affect the HDMI outs.

- Rich
post #10901 of 11017
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

If you are only use the BDP analog outs directly to the amp (switched), you can set volume to variable since it does not affect the HDMI outs.

- Rich

A gold point SW2X-I would be your best answere, they also make a RCA variant. Place it between your oppo and Marantz and run there respectve front.channel outputs to it and connect the output on the gold point to your amp. This is a totally passive switch so there will be no affect on the signal. This allows you to share your oppo and Marantz with one amp.

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post #10902 of 11017
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

I have the BDP-105 hooked to the 7.1 analog inputs and HDMI1 connected to the AV8801.
I use a programmable remote to switch on the fly between HDMI audio and the 7.1 analog audio using the same Blu-ray input on the AV8801.

I do not recommend using the two BDP outputs to drive one source that does volume control and another that does not, like an amp.
The AV8801 wants maximum volume and the amp needs the BDP to do volume control.
Such a configuration is prone to mistakes which will, at the least, startle you and could potentially damage your equipment.

- Rich

Hi, RichB!

Which connection you think is better for music? The analog of the HDMI? Does it make a difference when you switch them on the fly?

Regards!
post #10903 of 11017
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Originally Posted by dreyfusfabrini View Post

Hi, RichB!

Which connection you think is better for music? The analog of the HDMI? Does it make a difference when you switch them on the fly?

Regards!

I prefer the 7.1 analog inputs using Pure Direct mode for music with the BDP-105.
Yes, there is a difference and the analogs are a bit louder so I changed the HDMI input to give it a 2 DB gain.
Even then, I still prefer the analog inputs.

If you use Audyssey, then the other might be better.
I also prefer the XLR inputs even though I am pretty sure they are digitized by the AV8801.

- Rich
post #10904 of 11017
I apologise if this question came up before in this thread. What do most people use: bitstream or PCM from your Oppo?
post #10905 of 11017
Thread Starter 
If you have a receiver that can do Dolby Digital TrueHD and DTS-HD Master, then you will want to use Bit Stream. If you have an older receiver, then use LPCM.
post #10906 of 11017
Thanks, that's what I thought but there is so many different views on the net!
post #10907 of 11017
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Originally Posted by vvuuren View Post

Thanks, that's what I thought but there is so many different views on the net!

Have a look at this section of the BDP-83 FAQ: Should I perform audio decoding in the player or in the receiver?

-Bill
post #10908 of 11017
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Have a look at this section of the BDP-83 FAQ: Should I perform audio decoding in the player or in the receiver?

-Bill
Thanks Bill. Makes more sense now.
post #10909 of 11017
Again, many thanks to those who have made suggestions toward solving my newbie problems. I've learned a bit more about my Quixotic quest to connect a NAS drive (where I'd like to house my hi res music files) to my Oppo BDP-95 player. Basically, it cannot be done unless the NAS is formatted in FAT or NTFS. Because I'm using a Mac, it should be FAT and not NTFS. Now the problem is finding a NAS that is formatted in FAT. Anyone know of one? I should say that I am also aware of the possibility of using Upnp or DLNA in order to stream from the NAS. I have ruled these options out for two reasons. First, my attempts at setting up such a network have resulted in unacceptable buggy things happening to my home network. Second, I use my Oppo player as strictly a 2-Channel source so it is not connected to a screen that lets me manipulate the music files. Oppo does not provide the BDP-95 with a software solution that will allow management of music files over DLNA (from what I understand the BDP-105 won't allow this either however, Oppo is working on a solution for the 105 not the 95).

Unless I can find a FAT formatted NAS, I'm going to stick with the FAT formatted USB drive that is currently connected to the player. That's a sort of solution - not so great because, in order to add music, I have to disconnect the the drive reattach it to my upstairs computer etc. etc. Finally, as those of us who are using it know, the Media Control for the BDP 95 is, at best, utilitarian. No ability to queue music or to view useful metadata. Suggested solutions, short of buying a Sony or Marantz server, would be most welcome.
post #10910 of 11017
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Originally Posted by biggar View Post

Again, many thanks to those who have made suggestions toward solving my newbie problems. I've learned a bit more about my Quixotic quest to connect a NAS drive (where I'd like to house my hi res music files) to my Oppo BDP-95 player. Basically, it cannot be done unless the NAS is formatted in FAT or NTFS. Because I'm using a Mac, it should be FAT and not NTFS. Now the problem is finding a NAS that is formatted in FAT. Anyone know of one? I should say that I am also aware of the possibility of using Upnp or DLNA in order to stream from the NAS. I have ruled these options out for two reasons. First, my attempts at setting up such a network have resulted in unacceptable buggy things happening to my home network. Second, I use my Oppo player as strictly a 2-Channel source so it is not connected to a screen that lets me manipulate the music files. Oppo does not provide the BDP-95 with a software solution that will allow management of music files over DLNA (from what I understand the BDP-105 won't allow this either however, Oppo is working on a solution for the 105 not the 95).

Unless I can find a FAT formatted NAS, I'm going to stick with the FAT formatted USB drive that is currently connected to the player. That's a sort of solution - not so great because, in order to add music, I have to disconnect the the drive reattach it to my upstairs computer etc. etc. Finally, as those of us who are using it know, the Media Control for the BDP 95 is, at best, utilitarian. No ability to queue music or to view useful metadata. Suggested solutions, short of buying a Sony or Marantz server, would be most welcome.

Okay, I'm not trying to be too pointed, but I have to be blunt on something you state here and that I see all over forums on this site - a NAS is Network Attached Storage...it sits on a network, anywhere, could be hidden in a closet, makes no difference, as long as it has an ethernet connection to your network. It does not connet to a computer via USB or anything else. It connects to your network, to a switch or a router on your network, that's it! Don't confuse it for "local storage" that you plug into a computer. If you are uncomfortable with the "Network" part of Network Attached Storage, then why are you even considering a NAS???? If as you state you have issues on your network resulting in inconsistent streaming from the NAS, then why the hell would you focus on anything else except fixing the network??? And if you're not comfortable doing that, then the ONLY solution is local storage, meaning plugging a large drive directly into the USB or eSATA ports on the Oppo. Any NAS that was made in the last 5 years, is capable of streaming high rez FLAC or whatever to a device like an Oppo or anything else, with no issues whatsoever. Any failure to do so is a failure on the network level, has nothing to do with the type of filesystem on the NAS itself. If one is having problems streaming from any NAS made in the last 5 years, one ought to work on troubleshooting one's network, and getting more comfortable with that. Period. You don't connect a NAS directly to the Oppo or any other device. A NAS simply goes on your home network somewhere, anywhere, likely WAY WAY far away from the Oppo (it's ethernet folks, it's good for 100 meters). And the client, the Oppo in this case, doesn't see the filesystem of the NAS at all! It sees a pretty little DLNA connection, that's it. The whole point of having a NAS on a network, is to allow you freedom to "serve" from the NAS to any "client" anywhere on your network (and oftentimes even remote networks). The Oppo is simply a dumb client in this paradigm, that's it...it will play from any DLNA server such as resides on nearly every NAS made in the last 5 years. Don't over-think this...it's a NAS, it has DLNA or uPnP or both, and either one will serve up streaming audio just fine all over your network to clients like the Oppo or whatever other DLNA "clients" exist on the network. Provided of course that you have a decent network without issues.

If you are not comfortable with networking, that's okay, but then you ought not even consider a NAS...simply get a large USB or eSATA drive and plug it in locally directly into the Oppo, and be done with it. As you point out above, that has major limitations, but at least it works and works consistently I suppose. Again, any NAS that is worth it's salt (virtually any NAS made in the last 5 years just to be conservative) will easily serve up music/video to the Oppo, when placed on a decent network with decent LAN connectivity. Netgear, Synology, Buffalo Terrastation, it matters NOT! These are kindergarten tasks for any NAS. Period. Stop troubleshooting the NAS filesystem, you are off in the weeds - either troubleshoot the network or plug a USB drive locally into the Oppo and forget you ever heard of a NAS.

Now as for not being able to view the music album/artist/song information on the Oppo without a display/TV on it, I absolutely feel your pain here. Whether you use a NAS or local storage, you will have an equal problem there. The way I get around this, is by using the second HDMI output of my receiver to display onto a very small 5 inch monitor that sits in my favorite listening position and from which I can surf the Oppo interface for my NAS-based or local storage for choosing what to listen to (you could do the same with the second HDMI of the Oppo itself). I realize this is a convenience not everyone can make work for them just logistically, but it has definitely improved my appreciation and usage of the Oppo for critical music listening. Again, I feel your pain. If this is a deal breaker for you, I would suggest moving up to the 105, and using the Oppo app or whatever to stream music, assuming they have that working at this point. I have no desire for the 105, no need for it, but you may indeed.

Again, I'm sorry to be a bit blunt here, but I see so many misunderstandings in not only your post, but many others when it comes to client-server functions and network functions and network vs. local storage, that it just kills me to see people out there spending more and more money, trying all kinds of NAS's, different routers, etc., when all of this is basic stuff that can be easily achieved, all things being equal. There's so much misinformation, half of it propagated by the hardware vendors themselves, that I guess it's no wonder folks are confused. I'll take a breath now, relax, and hope that I've been of some assistance. I'll stay tuned to see if I can help further.
post #10911 of 11017
Or put another way FAT or NTFS does not come into play on a NAS as far as the Oppo is concerned.
post #10912 of 11017
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Originally Posted by ManWithAPlan View Post

Okay, I'm not trying to be too pointed, but I have to be blunt on something you state here and that I see all over forums on this site - a NAS is Network Attached Storage...it sits on a network, anywhere, could be hidden in a closet, makes no difference, as long as it has an ethernet connection to your network. It does not connet to a computer via USB or anything else. It connects to your network, to a switch or a router on your network, that's it! Don't confuse it for "local storage" that you plug into a computer. If you are uncomfortable with the "Network" part of Network Attached Storage, then why are you even considering a NAS???? If as you state you have issues on your network resulting in inconsistent streaming from the NAS, then why the hell would you focus on anything else except fixing the network??? And if you're not comfortable doing that, then the ONLY solution is local storage, meaning plugging a large drive directly into the USB or eSATA ports on the Oppo. Any NAS that was made in the last 5 years, is capable of streaming high rez FLAC or whatever to a device like an Oppo or anything else, with no issues whatsoever. Any failure to do so is a failure on the network level, has nothing to do with the type of filesystem on the NAS itself. If one is having problems streaming from any NAS made in the last 5 years, one ought to work on troubleshooting one's network, and getting more comfortable with that. Period. You don't connect a NAS directly to the Oppo or any other device. A NAS simply goes on your home network somewhere, anywhere, likely WAY WAY far away from the Oppo (it's ethernet folks, it's good for 100 meters). And the client, the Oppo in this case, doesn't see the filesystem of the NAS at all! It sees a pretty little DLNA connection, that's it. The whole point of having a NAS on a network, is to allow you freedom to "serve" from the NAS to any "client" anywhere on your network (and oftentimes even remote networks). The Oppo is simply a dumb client in this paradigm, that's it...it will play from any DLNA server such as resides on nearly every NAS made in the last 5 years. Don't over-think this...it's a NAS, it has DLNA or uPnP or both, and either one will serve up streaming audio just fine all over your network to clients like the Oppo or whatever other DLNA "clients" exist on the network. Provided of course that you have a decent network without issues.

If you are not comfortable with networking, that's okay, but then you ought not even consider a NAS...simply get a large USB or eSATA drive and plug it in locally directly into the Oppo, and be done with it. As you point out above, that has major limitations, but at least it works and works consistently I suppose. Again, any NAS that is worth it's salt (virtually any NAS made in the last 5 years just to be conservative) will easily serve up music/video to the Oppo, when placed on a decent network with decent LAN connectivity. Netgear, Synology, Buffalo Terrastation, it matters NOT! These are kindergarten tasks for any NAS. Period. Stop troubleshooting the NAS filesystem, you are off in the weeds - either troubleshoot the network or plug a USB drive locally into the Oppo and forget you ever heard of a NAS.

Now as for not being able to view the music album/artist/song information on the Oppo without a display/TV on it, I absolutely feel your pain here. Whether you use a NAS or local storage, you will have an equal problem there. The way I get around this, is by using the second HDMI output of my receiver to display onto a very small 5 inch monitor that sits in my favorite listening position and from which I can surf the Oppo interface for my NAS-based or local storage for choosing what to listen to (you could do the same with the second HDMI of the Oppo itself). I realize this is a convenience not everyone can make work for them just logistically, but it has definitely improved my appreciation and usage of the Oppo for critical music listening. Again, I feel your pain. If this is a deal breaker for you, I would suggest moving up to the 105, and using the Oppo app or whatever to stream music, assuming they have that working at this point. I have no desire for the 105, no need for it, but you may indeed.

Again, I'm sorry to be a bit blunt here, but I see so many misunderstandings in not only your post, but many others when it comes to client-server functions and network functions and network vs. local storage, that it just kills me to see people out there spending more and more money, trying all kinds of NAS's, different routers, etc., when all of this is basic stuff that can be easily achieved, all things being equal. There's so much misinformation, half of it propagated by the hardware vendors themselves, that I guess it's no wonder folks are confused. I'll take a breath now, relax, and hope that I've been of some assistance. I'll stay tuned to see if I can help further.


Thanks for this. Can you tell me what brand of monitor you purchased. This would seem to be the solution to my problem.

Pat
post #10913 of 11017
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Originally Posted by biggar View Post

Thanks for this. Can you tell me what brand of monitor you purchased. This would seem to be the solution to my problem.

Pat

I have this one from Xenarc, I guess it's 7 inches, they're designed for the boat and RV markets, or car markets, etc. Weird little thing but it does the job, they make many different models, some with HDMI input, some without:

http://www.xenarc.com/700YH.html

Again, it's not designed to be overly pretty, just something that lets you see and use the UI on the Oppo 95/93.
post #10914 of 11017
Hi there. My unit is doing something strange on startup. On power up it gets to a point where it says 'Hello' and then freezes. If I power toggle it off then back on it then says 'Hello' and then changes to 'Oppo' and then works perfectly. It is inconvenient because every time I use it I need to turn it on then off then on.

Has anyone heard of this and/or know what might be causing it? I've tried factory resetting it, but no change.

It says I have the latest firmware - 79-0910.

The other problem I've encountered today is that it refused to play The Sound of Music Blu-ray Disc. I took the disc back and swapped it but same result. It throws up a message saying 'Wrong Disc' and then ejects it. This happens for both discs in the set. Any ideas?

Thanks heaps in advance for helping out.
post #10915 of 11017
If I'm only going to listen to 2 channel music through my Oppo 95 I rarely turn my TV on. Just the Oppo and my amp & power amp. I use the android Oppo Media Control app and with this can surf files on my Seagate Central NAS or on one of the hard drives attached to the Oppo. No problems... Except the order in which drives have to be switched on in relation to the Oppo (see my earlier post).
post #10916 of 11017
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Originally Posted by XenneX1968 View Post

Hi there. My unit is doing something strange on startup. On power up it gets to a point where it says 'Hello' and then freezes. If I power toggle it off then back on it then says 'Hello' and then changes to 'Oppo' and then works perfectly. It is inconvenient because every time I use it I need to turn it on then off then on.

Has anyone heard of this and/or know what might be causing it? I've tried factory resetting it, but no change.

It says I have the latest firmware - 79-0910.

The other problem I've encountered today is that it refused to play The Sound of Music Blu-ray Disc. I took the disc back and swapped it but same result. It throws up a message saying 'Wrong Disc' and then ejects it. This happens for both discs in the set. Any ideas?

Thanks heaps in advance for helping out.

Welcome to AVSForum.

Try posting this in the BDP-95 thread: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1311806/official-oppo-bdp-95-owners-thread. Use the "Post a Reply" button, not the "Start a New Thread" button.

You can also email OPPO support. They'll help you even if you are out of warranty. There is a contact form on their web site: http://www.oppodigital.com/

-Bill
post #10917 of 11017
Hi there. My unit is doing something strange on startup. On power up it gets to a point where it says 'Hello' and then freezes. If I power toggle it off then back on it then says 'Hello' and then changes to 'Oppo' and then works perfectly. It is inconvenient because every time I use it I need to turn it on then off then on.

Has anyone heard of this and/or know what might be causing it? I've tried factory resetting it, but no change.

It says I have the latest firmware - 79-0910.

The other problem I've encountered today is that it refused to play The Sound of Music Blu-ray Disc. I took the disc back and swapped it but same result. It throws up a message saying 'Wrong Disc' and then ejects it. This happens for both discs in the set. Any ideas?

Thanks heaps in advance for helping out.
post #10918 of 11017
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Originally Posted by XenneX1968 View Post

Hi there. My unit is doing something strange on startup. On power up it gets to a point where it says 'Hello' and then freezes. If I power toggle it off then back on it then says 'Hello' and then changes to 'Oppo' and then works perfectly. It is inconvenient because every time I use it I need to turn it on then off then on.

Has anyone heard of this and/or know what might be causing it? I've tried factory resetting it, but no change.

.

Unplug all connections from the player except the A/C cord, including USB devices. Does it still do this?
If not, plug the HDMI cable back in - does it do it now?
Keep going till you find the connection that might be hanging the boot process.
If you can't sort it out, contact Oppo support.
post #10919 of 11017
When do you think OPPO will release a 4K blu ray player?
post #10920 of 11017
^ It really all depends on how the 4k market develops this year wse. It's difficult to build a 4k player when there is no 4k material to work with it.
Kinda like building a car before tires are invented. smile.gif
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