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Originally Posted by lespako View Post

I've just received my 95. I notice that there are two audible clicks coming from the player itself when I switch between disc formats. For example, after playing SACDs for awhile I'll pop in a redbook cd or DVD-A. Just before it starts playing the first track the player will click twice before playing the first track. The click is not coming through my speakers but from the physical player itself. Is anyone else experiencing this? I want to resolve this before my 30 day grace period ends.
Thanks,
Les

the player uses relays for muting the analog audio, which will occur anytime the audio is interrupted, as in disc changes or codec changes. Clicking will be heard at those times.
post #1532 of 10424
Yes, do a search here. It has been discussed. Not an issue other than, a slight announce.
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Originally Posted by lespako View Post

I've just received my 95. I notice that there are two audible clicks coming from the player itself when I switch between disc formats. For example, after playing SACDs for awhile I'll pop in a redbook cd or DVD-A. Just before it starts playing the first track the player will click twice before playing the first track. The click is not coming through my speakers but from the physical player itself. Is anyone else experiencing this? I want to resolve this before my 30 day grace period ends.
Thanks,
Les
post #1533 of 10424
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Originally Posted by moglia View Post

Thanks Bob

D'OH!

Never thought of looking at the remote. May as well get another ID as my street cred is now all gone.

haha, I hear the first few are forgiven... (as long as it doesn't include anything about vudu.. )
post #1534 of 10424
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Originally Posted by lespako View Post

I've just received my 95. I notice that there are two audible clicks coming from the player itself when I switch between disc formats. For example, after playing SACDs for awhile I'll pop in a redbook cd or DVD-A. Just before it starts playing the first track the player will click twice before playing the first track. The click is not coming through my speakers but from the physical player itself. Is anyone else experiencing this? I want to resolve this before my 30 day grace period ends.
Thanks,
Les

if it doesn't happen during tracks, then should be normal. I remember Oppo said the 'clicks' are from the relay switches installed at the output terminals, they are turning on/off to truely mute the outputs, which can eliminate any potential poping noise and further improve the noise reject ratio. Oppo also mentioned they can stop the 'clicks' if enough owners hate it .
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Originally Posted by lespako View Post

I've just received my 95. I notice that there are two audible clicks coming from the player itself when I switch between disc formats. For example, after playing SACDs for awhile I'll pop in a redbook cd or DVD-A. Just before it starts playing the first track the player will click twice before playing the first track. The click is not coming through my speakers but from the physical player itself. Is anyone else experiencing this? I want to resolve this before my 30 day grace period ends

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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

the player uses relays for muting the analog audio, which will occur anytime the audio is interrupted, as in disc changes or codec changes. Clicking will be heard at those times.

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Originally Posted by lanping09 View Post

if it doesn't happen during tracks, then should be normal. I remember Oppo said the 'clicks' are from the relay switches installed at the output terminals, they are turning on/off to truely mute the outputs, which can eliminate any potential poping noise and further improve the noise reject ratio. Oppo also mentioned they can stop the 'clicks' if enough owners hate it

I'm okay with the relay noise ("clicking"). But more concerned if any transients were sent to my amp and speakers (as loud "popping"), guess this has'nt been a problem so far?
post #1536 of 10424
okay, it's done, I did it. I just pulled the trigger on a new Oppo BDP-95
post #1537 of 10424
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Originally Posted by WestCoastD View Post

okay, it's done, I did it. I just pulled the trigger on a new Oppo BDP-95

Congratulations Dave, I can't wait to hear what you think about the 95. Since you have a Denon 3930 and an Oppo 83SE. I am going to wait a while yet to hear more feedback on the 95. I just upgraded a pair of Audioquest Cobra IC's to Audioquest Colorado IC's on the 2CH analog outs of my 83SE, and now I am listening to that almost full time, instead of the Denon, the IC change made a big difference in the 83SE. I was only using the Denon for 2CH analog, as the Oppo 83SE was used for MCH SACD, DVD-A and BR via HDMI with output set to PCM from the Oppo to my Denon AVR, to make use of the AL24 processing in my AVR. Very happy with MCH over HDMI. I'm sure my next player will be the 95, when depends on deciding if the analog 2CH will better the 83SE. Anyway good luck and enjoy the 95!
post #1538 of 10424
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Originally Posted by djwobbrock View Post

Congratulations Dave, I can't wait to hear what you think about the 95. Since you have a Denon 3930 and an Oppo 83SE. I am going to wait a while yet to hear more feedback on the 95

thanks. It was a hard decision, I'm essentially replacing my Denon DVD-3930CI with the BDP-95. While I love the sound of the Denon I'm tired of the hiccups (random freezing when playing CD titles), it's been shipped back to Denon factory three times ($350.00 charge for two of those occasions), it does however function fine with SACD and DVD-A titles. So I'm hoping to gain improved 2ch analog performance (also BD, SD-DVD, BD-A, DVD-A, HDCD) combined with hopefully better overall durablility over time with the Oppo.

I also pulled the trigger on a new Sony SCD-XA5400ES CD/SACD player:
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...37319#features

I figure between the Sony and Oppo I can cover all bases. I wanted a solid dedicated CD/SACD player combined with a good universal player for everything else. Considering the total price for both ($2200.00) I think I made out pretty well.

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Originally Posted by djwobbrock View Post

I just upgraded a pair of Audioquest Cobra IC's to Audioquest Colorado IC's on the 2CH analog outs of my 83SE, and now I am listening to that almost full time, instead of the Denon, the IC change made a big difference in the 83SE

Interesting. I've been using primarily AudioQuest DiamondBack and Monster M-Series interconnects, seem to yield very good sound (may experiment with other brand/models in the future)

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Originally Posted by djwobbrock View Post

I was only using the Denon for 2CH analog, as the Oppo 83SE was used for MCH SACD, DVD-A and BR via HDMI with output set to PCM from the Oppo to my Denon AVR, to make use of the AL24 processing in my AVR. Very happy with MCH over HDMI. I'm sure my next player will be the 95, when depends on deciding if the analog 2CH will better the 83SE

I really miss having AL24 processing (up-sampling). Although the Sony incorporates it's own up-sampling method in the SCD-XA5400ES for playing CD's via-2ch analog OUT, supposed to be very nice sounding. I'm looking forward to experimenting with multi-channel music over HDMI. Also looking forward to integrating these players to a new Marantz AV7005 pre-pro, Parasound Halo A51 amp, Monuitor Audio GS-Series speakers (GS60 fronts).

The one thing with the Oppo (from early post's) it seems quite messy configuring setting for DSD-to-analog? You have to sort of "fool" it? No simple menu or button selection? Guess I'll have to figure this out when I get it.
post #1539 of 10424
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Originally Posted by WestCoastD View Post

I really miss having AL24 processing (up-sampling). Although the Sony incorporates it's own up-sampling method in the SCD-XA5400ES for playing CD's via-2ch analog OUT, supposed to be very nice sounding. I'm looking forward to experimenting with multi-channel music over HDMI. Also looking forward to integrating these players to a new Marantz AV7005 pre-pro, Parasound Halo A51 amp, Monuitor Audio GS-Series speakers (GS60 fronts).

The one thing with the Oppo (from early post's) it seems quite messy configuring setting for DSD-to-analog? You have to sort of "fool" it? No simple menu or button selection? Guess I'll have to figure this out when I get it.

If the Marantz AV7005 supports DSD over HDMI you could go that route, instead of DSD over MCH analog. DSD over MCH analog gives you no bass management in the Oppo. I have tried both in my Oppo 83SE, and much prefer HDMI. I still get bass management in my AVR, and then you could use Audyssey for room correction.

A plus for the Oppo, I have never had a problem in 2 years, with freezes, lockup's. It is a solid performer!
post #1540 of 10424
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Originally Posted by WestCoastD View Post

I'm essentially replacing my Denon DVD-3930CI with the BDP-95....So I'm hoping to gain improved 2ch analog performance (also BD, SD-DVD, BD-A, DVD-A, HDCD) combined with hopefully better overall durablility over time with the Oppo.

About to make the same switch from Denon DVD 3930CI to Oppo BDP-95. As a long time reader of your posts, can't wait to hear your impressions and compare notes once I see whether you're happy with the change.
post #1541 of 10424
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Originally Posted by WestCoastD View Post

I'm okay with the relay noise ("clicking"). But more concerned if any transients were sent to my amp and speakers (as loud "popping"), guess this has'nt been a problem so far?

Nope... no issues with pops and my B/W 805s and MF A 5.5.
Cheers.
post #1542 of 10424
Ok for those who were following and or cared, The 93 is now back at Amazon with a confirmed receipt. So as soon as the refund hits.... bang, I'll be ordering the 95. Now if the 95 still displays the weirdness from the video, I'll start talking to OPPO,because there is no way what I was seeing with the 93 was just a mild annoyance it flat out was unacceptable, period.

Also I'll know how the sound compares, here in Analog land.

Dave
post #1543 of 10424
I got the biggest scare with the 95 yesterday, I even thought that my amp was done for.
I hit the play botton to listen to a sacd disc and the sound started to distort and I went crazy thinking that I to fix or replace my beloved amp, after several tries and sacd changes, it turned out to be that this specific sacd is not compatible with the 95, it did played flawlessly on my Marantz player though.

By the way, I was watching a movie on this player and not only the picture quality but the sound coming out of those analog outputs are a beautiful thing.
post #1544 of 10424
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Originally Posted by luismanrara View Post

I got the biggest scare with the 95 yesterday, I even thought that my amp was done for.
I hit the play botton to listen to a sacd disc and the sound started to distort and I went crazy thinking that I to fix or replace my beloved amp, after several tries and sacd changes, it turned out to be that this specific sacd is not compatible with the 95, it did played flawlessly on my Marantz player though.

By the way, I was watching a movie on this player and not only the picture quality but the sound coming out of those analog outputs are a beautiful thing.

What was the SACD disc title?
post #1545 of 10424
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Originally Posted by luismanrara View Post

it turned out to be that this specific sacd is not compatible with the 95, it did played flawlessly on my Marantz player though

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Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post

What was the SACD disc title?

yeah, I'm curious which SACD title myself? Also which model Marantz player are you using?
post #1546 of 10424
Been using my unit for a week now and I'm am getting popping noises when I fast-forward to another song. The noise is not nearly as loud as the Oppo-83 when it had the issue. It is noticeable, but not objectionable. Just wondering if this is normal.

P.S. The clicks are loud but I've grown accustomed to it owning an Onkyo processor...just sayin'.
post #1547 of 10424
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Originally Posted by WestCoastD View Post

okay, it's done, I did it. I just pulled the trigger on a new Oppo BDP-95

Way to go, I've decide to give the 95 a try as well, I'll be ordering in the morning. My only cavet now is how is video performance over component? Before anyone says anything I know its out dated tech, but I have flat screens elsewhere in the house and have installed them for others ,only to come home and enjoy my Pioneer elite 64inch great blacks no motion blur or pixelated display (lol)! I currently use a Pioneer 51fd and love its picture performance ( film like).So Will the 95 give better performance via component than the Pioneer? For Sacd and Dvd Audio it has to beat out A Denon 5900 which has been good to me. Any other Anthem users? I use an Avm 20v2 mated to an Mca 30 for center and surrounds and a Halo A21 for mains, for 2 channel I use the Anthem over the Denon and the Pioneer, via an Illuminations d60, but Cant wait to hear the 2 channel from the Oppo. Man I hope I'm right on this one!
post #1548 of 10424
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

Way to go, I've decide to give the 95 a try as well, I'll be ordering in the morning. My only cavet now is how is video performance over component? Before anyone says anything I know its out dated tech, but I have flat screens elsewhere in the house and have installed them for others ,only to come home and enjoy my Pioneer elite 64inch great blacks no motion blur or pixelated display (lol)! I currently use a Pioneer 51fd and love its picture performance ( film like).So Will the 95 give better performance via component than the Pioneer? For Sacd and Dvd Audio it has to beat out A Denon 5900 which has been good to me. Any other Anthem users? I use an Avm 20v2 mated to an Mca 30 for center and surrounds and a Halo A21 for mains, for 2 channel I use the Anthem over the Denon and the Pioneer, via an Illuminations d60, but Cant wait to hear the 2 channel from the Oppo. Man I hope I'm right on this one!

Via the componant you're loosing the video processing power of the dedicated QDEO DE12750 video processor (HDMI 1).

I'm also currently stuck with the componant out (420P with my Panny plasma EDTV display). My temp plan to capitalize on the HDMI 1 processor is to get my ViewHD HDMI converter (HDCP compatible/$80 from amazon) inline and use the Oppo HDMI 1 out to the ViewHD HDMI input and convert to componant (output res = input res). Other issue you may run into with the componant...Some DVDs/Blu-Ray discs have restrictions encoded limiting upscaling capability above 420 throught the componant out. From the manual..."Copyright control mechanisms encoded on the disc may limit the output resolution of the component video output. For DVD, if CSS encryption is in use the output resolution is limited to no more than 480p/576p; for Blu-ray Discs, the output resolution is limited to no more than 1080i, and could be lower if the disc contains the Image Constraint Token."

As far as componant PQ, I am not seeing much of an improvement over my Oppo 980 upscalling DVD player with the exception of color. Not expecting miricles with the HDMI converter since I'm limited to 420P, but do expect some additional improvement using the better video processor. Will it be $80 worth of improvement, we'll see. Vendor has 30-day trial/return policy if worthless.

BTW, next year's upgrade is the TV.
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Originally Posted by djwobbrock View Post

If the Marantz AV7005 supports DSD over HDMI you could go that route, instead of DSD over MCH analog. DSD over MCH analog gives you no bass management in the Oppo. I have tried both in my Oppo 83SE, and much prefer HDMI. I still get bass management in my AVR, and then you could use Audyssey for room correction

too bad, the AV7005 does'nt decode DSD via-HDMI. Will probably have to convert DSD to PCM.
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Another Version of BDP-95:

Cambridge Audio 751BD.....USD$1,599.00

Wolfson WM8740 24bit/192kHz DACs
Anagram Technologies Upsampling
Choice of Digital Filters









Anagram Technologies Q5 192 kHz upsampling
post #1551 of 10424
On exploring more, I think they took the 93 chassis and then took pains to make enough differences... add two RCA analogue outputs to a 93 base?

Less a 95 than a 93 on steroids...
post #1552 of 10424
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Originally Posted by petetherock View Post

On exploring more, I think they took the 93 chassis and then took pains to make enough differences... add two RCA analogue outputs to a 93 base?

Less a 95 than a 93 on steroids...

You can find that the chassis is BDP-95 in the first photo...
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Originally Posted by yuppi View Post

You can find that the chassis is BDP-95 in the first photo...

The first picture looks like the 751BD chassis to me. The 95 chassis is 4" in height when the 93 is 3 1/8"? It is clear that the 751BD is not 4" in height but probably the same height as the 93. If it was the 95 chassis there would be balanced outputs, 7.1 analog inputs that are straight across the back panel and a larger fan. So in reality the 751BD would be an upgraded 93 not Cambridge Audio's version of the 95.

Bill
post #1554 of 10424
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

The first picture looks like the 751BD chassis to me. The 95 chassis is 4" in height when the 93 is 3 1/8"? It is clear that the 751BD is not 4" in height but probably the same height as the 93. If it was the 95 chassis there would be balanced outputs, 7.1 analog inputs that are straight across the back panel and a larger fan. So in reality the 751BD would be an upgraded 93 not Cambridge Audio's version of the 95.

Bill

I mean the bottom metal plane, 751BD is using BDP-95 bottom metal plane, not BDP-93
post #1555 of 10424
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Originally Posted by yuppi View Post

I mean the bottom metal plane, 751BD is using BDP-95 bottom metal plane, not BDP-93

Huh? What are you referring to? What are the differences between the 93's and the 95's bottom metal "plane"?

Bill
post #1556 of 10424
Please see:

BDP-93 bottom metal plane



BDP-95 Bottom metal plane
post #1557 of 10424
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Originally Posted by yuppi View Post

Please see:

BDP-93 bottom metal plane

What does the stamping of the bottom plate have to do with the whether it is a 93 or 95 design? The other difference is the BD751 does not appear to have a Rotel toroidal power transformer but a switch mode power supply. But to be honest even if both the 95 and the BD751 had the same stamped bottom plate what would it mean? It is quite apparent by looking at the BD751 that it is an upgraded 93 not a 95 regardless of the bottom plate.

Bill
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I expect to receive my 95 direct from OPPO this month replacing a high end old Marantz universal. Question about DSP.
Does DSP refer to both SACD and the high resolution HD formats?
AFAIk, SACD can only be played thru MC analogue output.
Does this mean that when you refer to DSP thru HDMI you are saying that the HD sound formats can be played via MC and HDMI output but not including,of course, SACD? What about DVD-A which is PCM? It should be able to be processed via HDMI 1.4a.
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Would my BDP-95 benefit from having acoustical isolation pyramids positioned under its feet?
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Originally Posted by WestCoastD View Post

okay, it's done, I did it. I just pulled the trigger on a new Oppo BDP-95

Ok the deed is done. Both of my players have been sold the Pioneer 51fd and my Denon 5900. Good news the Oppo BDP-95 has been ordered today and should be here Saturday( fingers crossed). Now all the monkeys are in one barrel Thanks to all the great and honest post from the various members ( good and the not so good) I'm confident in my choice and Am glad to now be able to stop lurking in the shadows in the Oppo fourms!
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