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post #1801 of 10417
3/16/11 at 2:09pm
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Originally Posted by flaskebent View Post

Is it possible to play sound files from an external harddrive or home network without having your tv turned on. I wouldn't like to have have my plasma turned on because of listening to music in form of flac or wave.

You can use a small VGA monitor and connect it to the 95 by using a VGA to composite cable.
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3/16/11 at 2:16pm
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Originally Posted by BillFree View Post

I had to send my 95 back and another is on its way to me when problems are fixed on next production run in May.

Hmm... this worries me: "next production run", does that mean it is a HARDWARE problem, that cannot be addressed by firmware update ?
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3/16/11 at 3:04pm
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Originally Posted by michdys View Post

Hmm... this worries me: "next production run", does that mean it is a HARDWARE problem, that cannot be addressed by firmware update ?

Me too!
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post #1804 of 10417
3/16/11 at 4:00pm
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Originally Posted by michdys View Post

Hmm... this worries me: "next production run", does that mean it is a HARDWARE problem, that cannot be addressed by firmware update ?

OPPO just received their first product run by ocean (some of these units were airshipped before hand and are already in your hands). The second production run is, gasp, the next batch of units after the first production run.

This is how production works. You go from production run one, to two, to three... and so forth.

What you should be worried about is if they say "running change". This means they are physically changing something in the design of the player.

There is no running change. This is just a continuation of the manufacturing of the BDP-95.
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post #1805 of 10417
3/16/11 at 4:15pm
Hi all, I setup my BDP-95 last weekend, and the sound is absolutely amazing. For a while I was starting to think maybe my system sounds too digital. The full, natural sound from the BDP-95 over HDMI is leading me to suspect my system may just be very accurate in reproducing the source, good or bad

My very first experience echoes Tom's:
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Originally Posted by Tom in OH View Post

The first thing I noticed with audio on the 95 were voices. On Blu-ray, Netflix and streaming video, voices are sooo much clearer and easier to listen to. I'm using the fancy rca stereo out on 95 for now.

Very first thing I did after hooking-up the player was to see what the Netflix streaming was like, and the voices immediately grabbed my attention. Compared to watching Netflix on a PS3, the voices were so much more discrete and clear.

I have a question around playing music from USB/network vs CD. I ripped a CD to FLAC using dbPowerAmp, and each song passed the AccurateRip verification. I loaded the FLACs onto a USB key and plugged-it into the front panel. I then compared playback of the same song from CD and from FLAC on the USB. I noticed a slight difference - the CD version had a little more detail and was more natural sounding. The FLAC version was very listenable, just slightly less enjoyable than the CD.

Of course, I can't dismiss the placebo affect of expecting the CD to sound better . I plan to do more testing. I guess let me ask the question - am I correct in expecting ripped FLAC playback from USB/network to sound 100% identical to a CD on the BDP-95? Anyone have similar experience?

Thanks,
Hunter
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post #1806 of 10417
3/16/11 at 4:24pm
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Originally Posted by rlh2173 View Post

Me too!

What seems to be the reason he sent it back? as I have not ran into any problems so far.
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post #1807 of 10417
3/16/11 at 4:29pm
Just got my FedEx notification. Can't wait.
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post #1808 of 10417
3/16/11 at 4:35pm
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

OPPO just received their first product run by ocean (some of these units were airshipped before hand and are already in your hands). The second production run is, gasp, the next batch of units after the first production run.

This is how production works. You go from production run one, to two, to three... and so forth.

What you should be worried about is if they say "running change". This means they are physically changing something in the design of the player.

There is no running change. This is just a continuation of the manufacturing of the BDP-95.

Thanks for the explanation. I feel better now.
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post #1809 of 10417
3/16/11 at 4:42pm
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Originally Posted by Krops View Post

Hi all, I setup my BDP-95 last weekend, and the sound is absolutely amazing. For a while I was starting to think maybe my system sounds too digital. The full, natural sound from the BDP-95 over HDMI is leading me to suspect my system may just be very accurate in reproducing the source, good or bad

My very first experience echoes Tom's:


Very first thing I did after hooking-up the player was to see what the Netflix streaming was like, and the voices immediately grabbed my attention. Compared to watching Netflix on a PS3, the voices were so much more discrete and clear.

I have a question around playing music from USB/network vs CD. I ripped a CD to FLAC using dbPowerAmp, and each song passed the AccurateRip verification. I loaded the FLACs onto a USB key and plugged-it into the front panel. I then compared playback of the same song from CD and from FLAC on the USB. I noticed a slight difference - the CD version had a little more detail and was more natural sounding. The FLAC version was very listenable, just slightly less enjoyable than the CD.

Of course, I can't dismiss the placebo affect of expecting the CD to sound better . I plan to do more testing. I guess let me ask the question - am I correct in expecting ripped FLAC playback from USB/network to sound 100% identical to a CD on the BDP-95? Anyone have similar experience?

Thanks,
Hunter

I had a similar finding when I did such a comparison using the BDP-83, but my system was not fully upgraded yet, but I did find the CDs sounded better. I plan to do this over again once the 95 arrives, and since my system is fully upgraded now. I was using a Cambridge Audio DACmagic at the time, but my electronics was different.
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post #1810 of 10417
3/16/11 at 4:46pm
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

What seems to be the reason he sent it back? as I have not ran into any problems so far.

First post. He claims that OPPO lied to him and said that VUDU would be included in the BDP-95 "package". (VUDU is not yet enabled as it has not been certified to do so, so all units are not shipping with VUDU support. It will be added in a future firmware release.)

Was not able to get sound from Netflix or Blockbuster and complained about their picture quality. (HDMI 1 is known to have poorer image quality when playing back Netflix media, and Blockbuster will not produce audio when using digital coaxial or optical. He said he also used HDMI and experienced the same issue, but this is likely a configuration issue.)

Had a freeze when loading the Home Menu.

Second post. Complains about not being able to zoom like he did with the BDP-83SE (this is true, as the BDP-93 does not support BD-JAVA zooming. This will be added in a future firmware release.)

Third post. He was having issues with the BDP-95 not working with the XpanD102 3D glasses & XpanD103 universal 3D glasses where the image would drop to 2D mode. He previously had no issues with the Panasonic DMP-BDT350. (Don't know about this. The player should not be switching between 2D and 3D mode. The only thing I can think of is that the IR signal is being lost between the television and the glasses. This is outside of the player's control).

Complained about issues with the remote not working all the time. (there are similar reports from other posters, so this is likely not an issue with his player. The IR sensor is recessed inside of the front panel and the vertical response is very low on this player. Changing Remote Codes can also fix these issues by changing the carrier frequency).
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post #1811 of 10417
3/16/11 at 5:02pm
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

First post. He claims that OPPO lied to him and said that VUDU would be included in the BDP-95 "package". (VUDU is not yet enabled as it has not been certified to do so, so all units are not supping with VUDU support. It will be added in a future firmware release.)

Was not able to get sound from Netflix or Blockbuster and complained about their picture quality. (HDMI 1 is known to have poorer image quality when playing back Netflix media, and Blockbuster will not produce audio when using digital coaxial or optical. He said he also used HDMI and experienced the same issue, but this is likely a configuration issue).

Had a freeze when loading the Home Menu.

Second post. Complains about not being able to zoom like he did with the BDP-83SE (this is true, as the BDP-93 does not support BD-JAVA zooming. This will be added in a future firmware release(

Third post. He was having issues with the BDP-95 not working with the XpanD102 3D glasses & XpanD103 universal 3D glasses where the image would drop to 2D mode. He previously had no issues with the Panasonic DMP-BDT350.

Complained about issues with the remote not working all the time. (there are similar reports from other posters, so this is likely not an issue with his player. The IR sensor is recessed inside of the front panel and the vertical response is very low on this player. Changing Remote Codes can also fix these issues by changing the carrier frequency).

So in other words nothing, I'll admit to the remote thing but to me it's nitpicking. So far everything has been almost plug n play, I'm astonished at how so many abilities are executed so well!
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post #1812 of 10417
3/16/11 at 5:04pm
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Originally Posted by rlh2173 View Post

Has anyone tried BDP-95 connectivity to a NAS yet? I may have missed that conversation. I plan to explore this once I receive my 95 with my Netgear ReadyNAS units. I imagine this is not an issue since they support media streaming DLNA compatible UPnP AV.

I use the 95 for streaming lossless audio. It works very well - much better than the 83. Covered some of the basics in my reviews:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post20001423

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post19999501

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post19997091

Can't comment on video streaming as I don't. Still has the same clunky GUI for song selection. This needs to be augmented with a computer based point and click interface like:

http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?t=20897

which is based on the DLNA control/renderer specification. If you'd like something like this, please email Oppo and let them know. IMO, it's the main feature holding this unit back from being a serious media server competitor.

Styln
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post #1813 of 10417
3/16/11 at 5:48pm
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Originally Posted by Krops View Post
Hi all, I setup my BDP-95 last weekend, and the sound is absolutely amazing. For a while I was starting to think maybe my system sounds too digital. The full, natural sound from the BDP-95 over HDMI is leading me to suspect my system may just be very accurate in reproducing the source, good or bad

My very first experience echoes Tom's:


Very first thing I did after hooking-up the player was to see what the Netflix streaming was like, and the voices immediately grabbed my attention. Compared to watching Netflix on a PS3, the voices were so much more discrete and clear.

I have a question around playing music from USB/network vs CD. I ripped a CD to FLAC using dbPowerAmp, and each song passed the AccurateRip verification. I loaded the FLACs onto a USB key and plugged-it into the front panel. I then compared playback of the same song from CD and from FLAC on the USB. I noticed a slight difference - the CD version had a little more detail and was more natural sounding. The FLAC version was very listenable, just slightly less enjoyable than the CD.

Of course, I can't dismiss the placebo affect of expecting the CD to sound better . I plan to do more testing. I guess let me ask the question - am I correct in expecting ripped FLAC playback from USB/network to sound 100% identical to a CD on the BDP-95? Anyone have similar experience?

Thanks,
Hunter
Your rips should be very good.
I have used dbPowerAMP and EAC (Exact Audio Copy).
I detect a difference in FLAC versus WAV rips when played over the network directly from my Onkyo PR-SC5507 preamp.

However, the BDP-95 CD's and streamed FLAC rips sound the same and excellent. I also prefer the analog outputs to bitstreaming PCM over HDMI to the 5507.

- Rich
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post #1814 of 10417
3/16/11 at 6:17pm
Loving my Oppo, the sound, the picture and all its features. The player has been flawless so far, Love the remote's layout but it is painfully unresponsive at times and I hate it.
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post #1815 of 10417
3/16/11 at 7:11pm
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Originally Posted by Glacier$ View Post
I need help and some advice setting up a wireless connection between my computer. I am running DC-8 software to play my computer files. I would like to be able to send my playlist from DC-8 to my new Oppo 95 and have it play this list, streamed from my computer preferably wirelessly. I have several questions that will help me accomplish this, assuming that it can be done.

1. There is a wireless adapter included with the Oppo 95. As I am not interested in connecting the Oppo to the internet, can I use this adapter in the Oppo to create a wireless connection between it and my computer? Yes, but you will need to use a wireless router (suggested N type). I reccomend you establish internet connection for firmware updates...not neccessary, but might be the most convienient.

2. Do I need a "bridge," as sold by Oppo in their "accessories" section or a router or access point that can be purchased from any computer supply company? Yes, see #1...available at your nearest Wal-Mart.

3. Once this connection is established, assuming it can be done in this fashion, will I be able to output my computer music files directly to the Oppo using .wav or Flak files of various resolutions, i.e. 192 for example? My sound card is an M-Audio Audiophile 192. Your Oppo can pull files to play but you can't push files/playlist from your computer to the Oppo. You'll need a DLNA server established on your computer (windows entertainment has it/Asset Upnp etc...free download) and installed for the Oppo to see files. Playlists are not supported to my knowledge yet. By streaming from computer through DLNA server, you will utilize the DACs in the Oppo...sounds awesome and should outperform your M-Audio sound card

4. Is there anything you can offer to avoid common "pitfalls" or better ways of accomplishing this task. I can run CAT 5 or Cat 6 from my computer to the Oppo if speed is an issue but I would rather not as it is in another part of the house. For wireless, the WPS technology is very helpfull in establishing easy connectivity to network. Also reccommned you read the AVS Oppo 83 DLNA/Streaming thread...very helpfull. Also, be aware of firewall restrictions; can block Oppo's ability to see DLNA program. The Oppo manual is a great starting point as well.
Would one be better served using a 2 TB external eSata drive and just move it between the computer and the Oppo? I did read the Oppo 83 DLNA/Streaming thread and it seemed to me that the wireless approach is wrought with issues, some of which seem to have simple solutions, some of which may not be so simple to resolve.
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post #1816 of 10417
3/16/11 at 8:26pm
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Originally Posted by Glacier$ View Post
Would one be better served using a 2 TB external eSata drive and just move it between the computer and the Oppo? I did read the Oppo 83 DLNA/Streaming thread and it seemed to me that the wireless approach is wrought with issues, some of which seem to have simple solutions, some of which may not be so simple to resolve.
Depends on a lot of things. Removable storage is foolproof most of the time, but the user interface will be different than DNLA. (file sorting and such) A lot depends on how good a connection you can get from your HT to the wireless network. Both methods have pluses and minuses.
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post #1817 of 10417
3/16/11 at 8:35pm
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Originally Posted by Styln View Post
I use the 95 for streaming lossless audio. It works very well - much better than the 83. Covered some of the basics in my reviews:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post20001423

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post19999501

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post19997091

Can't comment on video streaming as I don't. Still has the same clunky GUI for song selection. This needs to be augmented with a computer based point and click interface like:

http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?t=20897

which is based on the DLNA control/renderer specification. If you'd like something like this, please email Oppo and let them know. IMO, it's the main feature holding this unit back from being a serious media server competitor.

Styln
Thanks, this is helpful, and I agree. Oppo is so close to really killing the market, but once they nail down the media server functionality, it will be a done deal for them.
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3/16/11 at 9:18pm
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Originally Posted by Glacier$ View Post

Would one be better served using a 2 TB external eSata drive and just move it between the computer and the Oppo? I did read the Oppo 83 DLNA/Streaming thread and it seemed to me that the wireless approach is wrought with issues, some of which seem to have simple solutions, some of which may not be so simple to resolve.

I think you will find the eSata option to be much more stable and responsive, just more inconvienient when compaired to a properly opperating Oppo/DLNA streamer. FYI...the streaming function is still considered experimental by Oppo, but expect improvemets with future firmware updates. I get occasional Oppo lock ups requiring a new boot up (I'm using Asset Upnp), but for the most part it works well with my set-up...it's when I hit the return button on remote to backtrack through the file truncation when I occasionally run into issues.
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3/16/11 at 9:42pm
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Originally Posted by Styln View Post

I use the 95 for streaming lossless audio. It works very well - much better than the 83. Covered some of the basics in my reviews:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post20001423

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post19999501

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post19997091

Can't comment on video streaming as I don't. Still has the same clunky GUI for song selection. This needs to be augmented with a computer based point and click interface like:

http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?t=20897

which is based on the DLNA control/renderer specification. If you'd like something like this, please email Oppo and let them know. IMO, it's the main feature holding this unit back from being a serious media server competitor.

Styln

I like your reviews, very informative. Thanks again.
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post #1820 of 10417
3/16/11 at 11:54pm
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

BDP-95 in Stock and Shipping

beautiful! I got an e-mail today confirming shipment of my unit and tracking No.. Will be here on friday
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post #1821 of 10417
3/17/11 at 12:13am
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Originally Posted by WestCoastD View Post

beautiful! I got an e-mail today confirming shipment of my unit and tracking No.. Will be here on friday

Pre- Congrats! (lol) can't wait to hear your comparisons against the Sony and the Denon!
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3/17/11 at 1:05am
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Originally Posted by WestCoastD View Post

beautiful! I got an e-mail today confirming shipment of my unit and tracking No.. Will be here on friday

Will you be comparing the 2 ch analogue of the BDP-95 to the Denon 3930?
I have the BDP83SE and the 3930 myself.
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3/17/11 at 1:21am
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Originally Posted by rlh2173 View Post

Looking at the specs, I see it does not support any lossless formats like FLAC. I think that is a big miss for Cambridge Audio.

Russell

Sorry, I don't understand this. Why wouldn't the CA end up supporting FLAC as well, if it is basically using the same platform and software? Aren't CA's and Oppo's basically using the same motherboards and software....the differences between the two brands just being in the analog, soundstage and power circuits?
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3/17/11 at 3:19am
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Originally Posted by wappinghigh View Post

Sorry, I don't understand this. Why wouldn't the CA end up supporting FLAC as well, if it is basically using the same platform and software? Aren't CA's and Oppo's basically using the same motherboards and software....the differences between the two brands just being in the analog, soundstage and power circuits?

If you look closely to the specs, Oppo uses a Mediatek 8531 chip "custom made for Oppo", while the Cambridge uses a Mediatek 8530 chip.
I guess this could explain the differences in media file support.

I'm really happy Oppo supports FLAC, cannot wait to receive the 95EU !
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post #1825 of 10417
3/17/11 at 6:06am
Thanks to Audiofan1,Neuromancer,rlh2173 for comments regarding my returning my 95 to OPPO. This forum like others helps all of us and believe me to read how much OPPO users enjoy their new 95. When I open every new OPPO product delivery package everything is unmatched quality from any other company. I am sorry I had to return my product but I had excellent technical help here double checking my connections and system. I feel confident that OPPO the 95 replacement will be fine.
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3/17/11 at 7:20am
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Originally Posted by fiske View Post

Will you be comparing the 2 ch analogue of the BDP-95 to the Denon 3930?
I have the BDP83SE and the 3930 myself.

fiske, which did you prefer, your Oppo or your 3930?
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post #1827 of 10417
3/17/11 at 8:20am
Oppo has updated their web site with new status for their "Rack Mount Kit" for the BDP-95.

It is now showing as "Pre-order: Expected Ship March 23".
--Bob
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3/17/11 at 10:09am
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Originally Posted by wappinghigh View Post

Sorry, I don't understand this. Why wouldn't the CA end up supporting FLAC as well, if it is basically using the same platform and software? Aren't CA's and Oppo's basically using the same motherboards and software....the differences between the two brands just being in the analog, soundstage and power circuits?

I looked at their website previously and they stated the audio decoding formats, and FLAC was not listed, only WMA, MP3, etc. all where compressed formats. I just looked again and I don't even see that area anymore under specifications. Maybe they caught it and currently updating. Still, nowhere in the summary and specs does it talk about FLAC lossless decoding for the Azur 751BD blu-ray player. Maybe it was an oversight on their part and they just covered the most widely known formats, and now they are in the process of making a more comprehensive list of audio decodes. There is a section for all the video decoding, but the audio decoding section is missing now. Interesting.

http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/specif...Specifications
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3/17/11 at 10:18am
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Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post

I think you will find the eSata option to be much more stable and responsive, just more inconvienient when compaired to a properly opperating Oppo/DLNA streamer. FYI...the streaming function is still considered experimental by Oppo, but expect improvemets with future firmware updates. I get occasional Oppo lock ups requiring a new boot up (I'm using Asset Upnp), but for the most part it works well with my set-up...it's when I hit the return button on remote to backtrack through the file truncation when I occasionally run into issues.

I pulled the trigger on a eSATA External drive. Figure what the hell, lol. For the money seems like a no brainer.
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3/17/11 at 10:40am
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Originally Posted by rlh2173 View Post

I looked at their website previously and they stated the audio decoding formats, and FLAC was not listed, only WMA, MP3, etc. all where compressed formats. I just looked again and I don't even see that area anymore under specifications. Maybe they caught it and currently updating. Still, nowhere in the summary and specs does it talk about FLAC lossless decoding for the Azur 751BD blu-ray player. Maybe it was an oversight on their part and they just covered the most widely known formats, and now they are in the process of making a more comprehensive list of audio decodes. There is a section for all the video decoding, but the audio decoding section is missing now. Interesting.

http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/specif...Specifications

Don't count on it:

p20 of their manual clearly states:
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Note: The 751BD can play WMA and MP3 files only.
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