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post #2761 of 10424
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Originally Posted by Clevor View Post
says that's why you have to go Mac over Intel too. The more simplistic interface works best with audio files.
If you're connecting your media via USB / eSATA, then the OS you're using on your computer has absolutely no impact on the interface while you're selecting and listening to your media. If you're using DLNA, then the specific DLNA server you're using is what matters as far as how the media is presented, but that's not really going to be an OS specific thing for the most part and the sound quality you get certainly isn't going to be affected by the OS especially if you're starting out with file formats that are supported by the OPPO. My suggestion is to save your money and use a Windows PC if that's what you already have.
post #2762 of 10424
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Originally Posted by wse View Post
Did you know that MoFi was acuired by Music Direct

Music Direct is a true success story of a company that started with nothing and is now a major e retailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8Any...ature=relatedI know it is off subject but waht do you guys think about Vinyl vs Oppo BDP-95 SACDs
I own a classical music record store and I have a large personal collection of vinyl records and 2 track open reel tapes, but I love listening to multi-channel SA-CD's! Whether the recordings are 3, 4, or 5 channel, I am sold on them.
post #2763 of 10424
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Originally Posted by WestCoastD View Post

sorry, this should get you to their SHM-SACD listings:
http://store.acousticsounds.com/c/36...le_Layer_SACDs

Ouch! 59 bucks
post #2764 of 10424
Ya there is no getting around a MC SACD DSD over 2 Ch as long as the SACD is well mastered.

I was playing with my 95's MC analog RCA outs and the Dedicated 2Ch RCA outs, mainly to hear what if any difference between MC analog RCA and the dedicated 2Ch stereo RCA, and also to make sure my MC system is as neutral and honor my source player BD-95.

2Ch dedicated RCA I was using interconnects from my 95 directly to my tube amp.
5.1 MC RCA outs, Oppo set to 5.1 speakers set to large bass on, I trim the left side speaker -1 but that's it. Running Blue Jean MC (5.1) analog cables to my SVS Realiser, then to my ADG DAC19DSP1v5 then to my amp, also my sub amp for my sub only. (Yes there is a lot of processing going on with my MC gears).

Anyway long story short, I can't really hear a difference between the dedicated 2CH analog RCA outs and the 5.1 MC analog outs, using the same 2CH audio tracks for both MC RCA analog outs and the dedicated 2CH stereo RCA outs. Maybe if I really try more than 8 music tracks there may be, but if there is its close. That is saying I don't use my sub bass with the 5.1 system with bass redirection, once I kick it in then I would have to give the nod to using the MC analog 95's audio board even for 2CH audio. But then again if I wanted to rewire my gears I am sure adding the sub bass would do the same to the dedicated 2CH RCA outs.

And then I played a MC 5.1 SACD DSD for my MC system using the MC analog outs, that tops any 2CH stereo recording.

On a side note I have also found my 5.1 system to be very neutral and not change any tonal quality from my source player BD-95, (that part makes me very happy).

Very nice job Oppo with your analog audio board, and of-course the Blu Ray video. If you enter the audiophile world you would know how good a job Oppo has done with the BD-95 for a low price.

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post #2765 of 10424
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Originally Posted by dart383 View Post

Try this one!!

http://store.acousticsounds.com/c/36...le_Layer_SACDs

John

$60 per disc too rich for my blood

http://store.acousticsounds.com/c/36...le_Layer_SACDs
post #2766 of 10424
Here is a list of new features I would like to see in the next Oppo BDP-100

Software:
- Support Airplay
- Supports iPod touch, iPad, iPhone through the USB so we can use those magnificent DACs
- Support Metadata for FLAC

Hardware:
Please eliminate the plastic
- Better construction like the Esoteric RZ1 using copper or aluminium
- Aluminum loading tray or Slot loading disks
- Dedicated laser for SACD/CD

We should compile a list and email it to Oppo
post #2767 of 10424
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Here is a list of new features I would like to see in the next Oppo BDP-100

Software:
- Support Airplay
- Supports iPod touch, iPad, iPhone through the USB so we can use those magnificent DACs
- Support Metadata for FLAC

Hardware:
Please eliminate the plastic
- Better construction like the Esoteric RZ1 using copper or aluminium
- Aluminum loading tray or Slot loading disks
- Dedicated laser for SACD/CD

We should compile a list and email it to Oppo

Hmm! how much would you pay for it? I hope the 95 is last player I'll ever need
post #2768 of 10424
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

hmm! How much would you pay for it? I hope the 95 is last player i'll ever need:d

$1500 especially if they upgrade the hardware
post #2769 of 10424
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Originally Posted by rlh2173 View Post

I am skeptical of the superior sound claim myself, but I will listen to one of these for myself out of curiosity.

With such claims, I find it useful to apply basic engineering reasoning.
In this case, all claimed advantages pertain to analog aspects of the
digital signal. This implies (though not actually claimed) that the
technology reduces error rate. If that's the case, there should be 0
(that's zero) advantage over conventional CDs/SACDs that already
have zero errors after CRC application (as many do).

I wish I could afford to test everything for myself, but where I am
doubtful of a result, I'd rather not blow 50 bucks on an SACD, just
to prove that my doubts were justified. YMMV.

-- Ron
post #2770 of 10424
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Originally Posted by ron12n View Post

With such claims, I find it useful to apply basic engineering reasoning. In this case, all claimed advantages pertain to analog aspects of the digital signal. This implies (though not actually claimed) that the technology reduces error rate. If that's the case, there should be 0 (that's zero) advantage over conventional CDs/SACDs that already have zero errors after CRC application (as many do). I wish I could afford to test everything for myself, but where I am doubtful of a result, I'd rather not blow 50 bucks on an SACD, just to prove that my doubts were justified. YMMV.-- Ron

You mean $59.99 for a single disc
post #2771 of 10424
AIX or Avia?

Which should I use to set speaker channel levels in my receiver? I recalibrated yesterday using the AIX and noticed different trim levels compared to Avia. Using the AIX (DD5.1;not PCM), I'm getting more information from the surrounds than what I am used to.

FYI: I'm using a Galaxy CM-140 meter with C-Weighting and in slow.
post #2772 of 10424
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Originally Posted by iove View Post

AIX or Avia? Which should I use to set speaker channel levels in my receiver? I recalibrate yesterday using the AIX and noticed different trim levels compared to Avia. Using the AIX (DD5.1;not PCM), I'm getting more information from the surrounds than what I am used to. FYI: I'm using a Galaxy CM-140 meter with C-Weighting and in slow.

Strange I will try both discs as I have them and report back!

I am having a pro come over to calibrate professionally and hope it is a wise investment? Probably better than spending it on power cords
post #2773 of 10424
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Originally Posted by Esteban Medaglia View Post

I've been experimenting (and immensely enjoying) the Oppo's front panel USB input, with various high-resolution downloads (24/96, 24/192, etc) and also with plain old regular rips of my own CD's, some of them as WAV files and some as FLAC. Even 320 kbps files sound terrific this way! What they say about the absence of a spinning drive and a disc transport mechanism is true: the sound simply "flows" in a much more natural, definitely much more enjoyable and relaxing manner. Listening to Alan Silvestri's "Beowulf" soundtrack (in lossy 320 kbps mp3 format!) was quite shockingly GOOD, with effortless dynamics, razor-sharp focus and imaging, and lots of details everywhere.

And my set-up is nothing extraordinary by any means:

- Oppo 95 (source for CD's, SACD's, BD's and DVD's)
- Marantz SR-5005 receiver (amplification, and also USB source for regular 44/16 files, to avoid one additional interconnect step)
- Sonus Faber Toy Tower speakers.
- Emotiva cables (analog)
- Audioquest Type 4 (speaker cables)
- PS Audio Duet (power conditioner)
- Pangea Power Cords
- Assorted HDMI cables.

Using the above equipment, I am astounded at the level of quality I am getting via a relatively simple, semi-affordable and straightforward set-up. I have to admit that now, after discovering USB-based playback (yes, I am aware I am late to the game), there really is no turning back for me. This is, quite simply, a whole new universe. And what is even better: this set-up is now making me re-discover my entire music collection all over again, including 100 gigs worth of downloaded music that I never really sat down to enjoy due to my previous computer-based audio limitations.

I also compared the quality of a standard CD played back via the Oppo, vs. the data from the exact same CD ripped to my PC as WAV files and then played back from an 8 gig USB stick. Again, same content, but the sound was evidently "smoother" and more natural coming from the USB drive.

Using an external Toshiba USB 500 gigs portable drive (with NO power source of its own), my luck was not that great. Specially with high-res files, the disc would skip and stutter from time to time, plus the "spinning" noise coming from the drive was distracting. I suppose this being a regular rotating and spinning hard-drive, the transfer rate is not as smooth and effortless as with an USB stick. Obviously, the problem with an USB stick is that anything larger than 32 gigs will cost you and arm and a leg (for now).

So, my question is, does anybody have any specific brand and model of a good-quality external USB drive that's, say, around 1 TB or so (meaning that I won't have to swap a million smaller USB drives back and forth), and that has a great data transfer rate, doesn't skip, and that has also been proved to work great alongside the Oppo? Would a drive with its own power supply make a difference?

Do you guys even have a similar set-up?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

I am using a Western Digital 2TB drive model WD2002FAEX that
I put into a Rosewill model RX-358-S SLV R case. The drive was
expensive (about $165), because I won't buy any HDD that
comes with less than 5 years warranty. The case was $28 on
sale. Of course, you can get a ready made no name external
HDD for about $100.

The Rosewill case supports both eSata (that I connected to the
BDP-95) and USB (that I connected , separately, to a PC). I
checked the drive with both music and video, of various
formats, that the BDP-95 had no trouble recognizing, displaying
and playing. As far as I could tell, PQ and SQ were the same as
from the original discs.

-- Ron
post #2774 of 10424
European Version Oppo BDP-95EU Now Shipping!

The Oppo UK web site says that pre-orders of the BDP-95EU started shipping today.

All units should ship with the European version, 0323 firmware.

The user Manual for the 95EU is still not on-line, but presumably that will happen shortly.
--Bob
post #2775 of 10424
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Originally Posted by neutron77 View Post

Not being a core audiophile, (but a Physicist, musician and an electronic circuit builder for over 40 years) I'd like to know if there is really anthing to this "burn in" thing for solid-state audio devices. Is that based on any solid foundation? or is that just a feeling based on "my ears are getting used to the breathless sound stage that is the BDP=95" :-) ??

I've never encountered proof that electronic components require
-- or benefit -- from burn in. However, there may be some effects.
For example: electrolytic capacitors may require some use time to
achieve their final low leakage, especially if not factory fresh;
transports and mechanical components may free up and work
more smoothly after running for a couple of hundred hours;
resonant frequency of speakers may be lower after a similar
time of use, etc.

I doubt you will find many (or any) engineers that will argue with
the above. However, there are many, many audiophiles that
swear by burn-in. As a physicist, use commonsense and your
knowledge to make up your own mind.

-- Ron
post #2776 of 10424
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Originally Posted by iove View Post

AIX or Avia?

Which should I use to set speaker channel levels in my receiver? I recalibrated yesterday using the AIX and noticed different trim levels compared to Avia. Using the AIX (DD5.1;not PCM), I'm getting more information from the surrounds than what I am used to.

FYI: I'm using a Galaxy CM-140 meter with C-Weighting and in slow.

I recommend using AIX.

I believe there are some known problems in the original Avia. I'm not sure about the 2nd edition. I use the audio disc from the Avia Pro set, but that's no longer in print.
--Bob
post #2777 of 10424
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

After over a 150 hours of listening and watching movies I can only say thank you Oppo outstanding player.

I also love listening to SACD in two Channels with XLR Connection as well as SCAD multichannel 5.1.

My 7.2 system for those of you who might wonder if I can hear a difference between good and outstanding

this is good, thanks. Nice system you have there.......

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Originally Posted by wse View Post

$60 per disc too rich for my blood

Quote:
Originally Posted by wse View Post

Classé CA-M600 to drive L&R

$14000.00 pair retail
post #2778 of 10424
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

I recommend using AIX. I believe there are some known problems in the original Avia. I'm not sure about the 2nd edition. I use the audio disc from the Avia Pro set, but that's no longer in print.
--Bob

AIX Blu Ray I assume ?
post #2779 of 10424
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Originally Posted by ron12n View Post

With such claims, I find it useful to apply basic engineering reasoning.
In this case, all claimed advantages pertain to analog aspects of the
digital signal. This implies (though not actually claimed) that the
technology reduces error rate. If that's the case, there should be 0
(that's zero) advantage over conventional CDs/SACDs that already
have zero errors after CRC application (as many do).

I wish I could afford to test everything for myself, but where I am
doubtful of a result, I'd rather not blow 50 bucks on an SACD, just
to prove that my doubts were justified. YMMV.

-- Ron

Actually on Amazon, the difference between the normal SACD and SHM-SACD for this particular CD is $60. I do not seek these types of SACDs, as this would be my first and probably only one. I agree about the basis for skepticism as I stated previously. Still, in the world of audio, $50 is a drop in the bucket in the pursuit of better sound. I want to be able to say, I have listen to one of these types of SACDs and can speak from experience. I did not buy from Amazon, so my cost difference is somewhat less. I paid $30 extra for this SHM version of Marvin Gaye's What's Going On SACD. I think Marvin Gaye is worth it. Fortunately, audio is my real only vice. Here in Vegas $30 in nothing for gamblers and those folks actually throw away money. In the end, I have a great recording of Marvin Gaye to listen to anytime. All about perspective.
post #2780 of 10424
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

AIX Blu Ray I assume ?

This one:

http://www.aixrecords.com/catalog/oppo_bd.html

--Bob
post #2781 of 10424
And for checking SACD audio levels use "Stay in Tune With PentaTone", SACD:

http://www.amazon.com/Stay-Tune-Pent...2206927&sr=8-1

For checking levels, be sure to use *ONLY* tracks 43-48 of the 5.1 layer. The apparently similar "channel ID" tracks earlier in that layer (starting around track 18) have incorrect LFE level.
--Bob
post #2782 of 10424
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

$60 per disc too rich for my blood

http://store.acousticsounds.com/c/36...le_Layer_SACDs

Based on your recent post listing your system, your electronics and speakers alone retails for over $80,000. Was that a gift, lol.
post #2783 of 10424
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Originally Posted by WestCoastD View Post

this is good, thanks. Nice system you have there.......



$14000.00 pair retail

You was reading my mind.
post #2784 of 10424
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

I recommend using AIX.

I believe there are some known problems in the original Avia. I'm not sure about the 2nd edition. I use the audio disc from the Avia Pro set, but that's no longer in print.
--Bob

Perhaps you were thinking about original Video Essentials with the wrong levels?
post #2785 of 10424
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Originally Posted by neutron77 View Post

My question was specifically about solid-state electronics and not speakers. However I have heard that large filtering caps take some time to form properly but I doubt very much if that has any effect on sound, unless perhaps you are listening to very loud music or large transients. hmmm maybe you DO have to be a P.EE to separate the fact from balony!
However a wise person once told me that he knew MANY highly educated people who were just plain dumb!

I also believe many highly educated people could be plain dumb in some ways. I also believe if you ask the engineering/design department of those electronics (say preamps, amps) manufacturers they will tell you they don't make allowance for the "aging/burn-in" process because they wouldn't know how, but if you ask their marketing department they may tell you the balony version.
post #2786 of 10424
Quote:


Software:
- Support Airplay
- Supports iPod touch, iPad, iPhone through the USB so we can use those magnificent DACs
- Support Metadata for FLAC

Please, none of this nonsense.

I want a Blu-Ray player and not a PC. I would have paid **more** for a version of the -95 without the streaming, USB, SATA, WiFi, etc. and all of the computer stuff.
post #2787 of 10424
Question: Music From USB

I currently own a Marantz 7003 receiver, which has a front panel USB input. I also own an Oppo-83SE.

I've ripped a number of (standard, redbook) audio CDs to my computer, all in uncompressed WAV format. I have copied some to USB thumb drive.

Plugging the USB into the Marantz receiver, the WAV files play as expected. Plugging the USB into the Oppo-83SE, the files DO NOT play. I've recently learned that that is normal: the Oppo-83SE does not recognize WAV files.

Yesterday I downloaded a sample high-resolution (24-bit/176.4-kHz) audio file from the Reference Recordings website. It was in WAV format; I copied it to a USB thumb drive. When plugged into the front panel of my Marantz receiver, that file would NOT play. Does that surprise anyone? Could my Marantz receiver's USB input be limited to standard 16-bit CD files?

Now the question that you expected in the first place: Do I understand correctly that if I upgrade to the Oppo-95, it will recognize ALL WAV format files, whether redbook 16-bit or high-resolution 24-bit/96-kHz, 24-bit/176.4-kHz, 24-bit/192-kHz (and I emphasize the 24/176.4)?

Thank you,

Howard
post #2788 of 10424
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Originally Posted by ron12n View Post

I am using a Western Digital 2TB drive model WD2002FAEX that
I put into a Rosewill model RX-358-S SLV R case. The drive was
expensive (about $165), because I won't buy any HDD that
comes with less than 5 years warranty. The case was $28 on
sale. Of course, you can get a ready made no name external
HDD for about $100.

The Rosewill case supports both eSata (that I connected to the
BDP-95) and USB (that I connected , separately, to a PC). I
checked the drive with both music and video, of various
formats, that the BDP-95 had no trouble recognizing, displaying
and playing. As far as I could tell, PQ and SQ were the same as
from the original discs.

-- Ron

I just put together the same setup. I do like the flexibility of this configuration in terms of bare drive purchase options, and using USB or eSATA connections.
post #2789 of 10424
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Originally Posted by haverbach View Post

Question: Music From USB

I currently own a Marantz 7003 receiver, which has a front panel USB input. I also own an Oppo-83SE.

I’ve ripped a number of (standard, redbook) audio CDs to my computer, all in uncompressed “WAV” format. I have copied some to USB thumb drive.

Plugging the USB into the Marantz receiver, the “WAV” files play as expected. Plugging the USB into the Oppo-83SE, the files DO NOT play. I’ve recently learned that that is normal: the Oppo-83SE does not recognize “WAV” files.

Yesterday I downloaded a sample high-resolution (24-bit/176.4-kHz) audio file from the Reference Recordings website. It was in “WAV” format; I copied it to a USB thumb drive. When plugged into the front panel of my Marantz receiver, that file would NOT play. Does that surprise anyone? Could my Marantz receiver’s USB input be limited to standard 16-bit CD files?

Now the question that you expected in the first place: Do I understand correctly that if I upgrade to the Oppo-95, it will recognize ALL “WAV” format files, whether redbook 16-bit or high-resolution 24-bit/96-kHz, 24-bit/176.4-kHz, 24-bit/192-kHz (and I emphasize the 24/176.4)?

Thank you,

Howard

Howard, I don't know about the Marantz 7003, but my 5005 does NOT decode anything higher than regular 44.1/16 or 48/16. It plays regular mp3's up to 320 kbps and, as you mentioned, regular WAV. It does NOT play Flac, either.

The Oppo 95 plays pretty much everything you throw at it, including hi-res (up to 192), WMA and Flac. So, yes, if you upgrade you should be good to go.

And since we are on this subject...

I face a dilemma on my current set-up, since I find the Marantz' interface via its front display to be extremely straight-forward and easy to use while the Oppo requires you to turn your TV or display on in order to navigate the files on any type of external drive or recorded media on a CD-R or DVD-R. The Marantz does not have the same quality DACs as the Oppo, of course (even though they are pretty close, at least to my ears), but when you feed it WAV files via its USB input it basically becomes a "self-contained" system that, frankly, sounds terrific with regular "red book" quality files. You eliminate lots of potentially degrading steps. There are no interconnects. No additional power supply. You go from the USB straight to the amp section and from there to your speakers, and you can control it all with one single remote, including volume.

The Oppo's advantage is that it plays high-res audio, of course, plus Flac files. The difference between 44.1/16 and 192/24 are readily apparent and there really is no turning back after you go the "USB Hi Res way". The problem is that I am having a hard time finding a cheap, small, non-obtrusive and hopefully battery-powered (no more available outlets!) LCD display that I could use in conjunction with the Oppo in order to avoid turning my 65" plasma on and risk burn-in (due to the Oppo's graphic interface, which is static, of course). Plus, the Oppo has a fan. And at least here in FL, I can hear it. The Marantz is dead-quiet. It really is a revelation to experience the "right there" sound coming through my speakers on good quality recordings when there is no rotating mechanism and no TV buzzying nor fans spinning in the background...

So for regular CD's I have been experimenting (with great results) with ripping them to USB drives as WAV files and playing them via the Marantz for an "all-in-one", "never-thought-this-would-be-possible-from-regular-cd's" solution. The only downsize: you will need plenty of USB sticks... at least until the 256 gig ones become affordable in a few years.

For everything else, including hi-res audio, the Oppo is unbeatable at its price.
post #2790 of 10424
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Originally Posted by Axatax View Post

Please, none of this nonsense.

I want a Blu-Ray player and not a PC. I would have paid **more** for a version of the -95 without the streaming, USB, SATA, WiFi, etc. and all of the computer stuff.

I would disagree with you and I feel FLAC metadata is very important. I feel this is essential since the 95 is not just a blu-ray player, but marketed as a "Universal Player". Metadata would provide the visual feedback (i.e. Album Art, and other song data) as you would see on a Record Album or CD. Remember digital music is supposed to replace these other types of media. To attract an audiophile (which this product was specifically designed for) who is geared towards lossless formats, it would seem imperative to provide such similar visual feedback to the user and exploit the video properties of the 95 in this area as well.
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