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post #5731 of 10456
9/11/11 at 9:07am
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post


Contact Oppo support. You may have some flash RAM going bad.

Thanks rdgrimes and Bob. I was afraid of that. I've had the Oppo for just about 10 days beyond the 30 day trial period, eeks.
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post #5732 of 10456
9/11/11 at 9:10am
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Yes, it's possible.


If the differences were measurable, we'd have a lot less to discuss in places like this. They are not measurable, beyond measuring the actual sample rate and bit depth.
Resolving the differences audibly requires some pretty high quality gear and a trained ear. You can easily audition these differences yourself by comparing the CD layer and 2-ch DSD layers of most SACDs. Set the player for SACD-PCM if you want to limit your comparisons to PCM.

the initial quality of the session masters has far more to do with what you hear than the format or sample rate of the playback media.

Thanks rdgrimes, SoundofMind and BP for great answers to my questions.
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post #5733 of 10456
9/11/11 at 9:16am
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Originally Posted by ksubrama View Post

Thanks rdgrimes and Bob. I was afraid of that. I've had the Oppo for just about 10 days beyond the 30 day trial period, eeks.

It has a 1 year warranty. They'll fix it.

-Bill
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post #5734 of 10456
9/11/11 at 9:22am
Here is a good list of: HD music dnld sites via Cirlinca's site.

I wonder if any dnld services are, or are considering, selling iso image compilations of albums (either DVD-A or SACD or other formats) instead of single or groups of tracks? hmmm as in the paper publishing industry (select chapters of book on demand), how about custom audio iso-compilations on demand? for songs, embedded lyrics (whoops, gets to sound a bit too much like karaoke.?
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post #5735 of 10456
9/11/11 at 9:45am
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Thanks rdgrimes, SoundofMind and BP for great answers to my questions.

Often the lower quality one hears in say CD tracks is intentional, much as with MP3 tracks. The high frequency end is discarded and dynamic range is crushed. Why would they do such a thing? Because they made the discs assuming they would be played in noisy environments on crappy equipment. On good audio equipment, way too many CDs are simply unlistenable.

The same thing happens with video discs. MOST folks never bother to adjust, much less calibrate, their TVs. They just use the factory default settings -- the so-called "torch mode" settings that are way too contrasty, way too sharpness "enhanced", with too blue a color temperature, and with too low a Gamma curve -- and then with red push layered on top of that to keep flesh tones from looking corpse-like. All manufacturers use these settings as defaults because it makes their TVs stand out in a wall of TVs under garish store lighting conditions.

So if you are making a video disc, what should you do? Make it "right" for the few people with calibrated TVs, or screw up the video in a deliberate effort to make it look as good as possible (which isn't great) on a torch mode TV? Guess which choice gets made for lots of mass distribution SD DVDs....

Indeed that's a big reason why "full screen" SD DVDs (intended for viewing on traditional 4:3 TVs) look so bad. Fortunately, we've not yet gotten to the point where this is the norm on Blu-ray discs -- even for non-prestige titles.

But compare the Blu-ray vs. the SD-DVD in the two-disc set for "Rango" for example. The Blu-Ray is REFERENCE QUALITY. The SD-DVD is not.

It is possible to produce SD-SVDs that look spectacular -- hard to distinguish from HD on good playback equipment. But you are less and less likely to find them in new titles.

NOTE: Calibrating your stuff for high quality playback of the best SD-DVDs is tough. Unlike with Blu-ray, there is NO margin for error. They eye will see any errors. Most folks have never seen just how good the best SD-DVDs can look.
--Bob
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post #5736 of 10456
9/11/11 at 11:19am
Bob,

You read my mind here, I couldn't agree more. Having just acquired the Oppo95, and tweaking my video processor settings for new inputs on the D2V as recommended by Nick at Anthem, I have had occasion to re-examine some old DVD's and BluRay's that I know very well, and have seen on various equipment for years. Several things stood out for me after testing with different sources. To your point, there are some DVD's, like the Superbit versions of Spiderman or Desperado, or Fifth Element, that look absolutely fantastic, especially when upscaled by the Oppo, or even using Source Direct on the Oppo and letting the D2V do the upscaling. But then there are other DVD's of course, the majority unfortunately, that look like crap no matter how the Oppo upscales nicely overall. Bluray's generally look amazing of course, like you say, more margin for error there big time, but that said, some look better than others. I love watching concert Bluray's, and there are some like Legends of Jazz that look stunning, even though it wasn't even 1080p! It was 1080i/60, and looks better than many of the hollywood 1080p/24 movies out there.

It truly is "garbage in-garbage out" to a large extent, no matter how great the video processing technology in all of our pre-amps or disc players are - and it is truly great that we get all that "help" with our videos where needed. Similar to the audio issues you've pointed out. I've recently started ripping the audio tracks from Blurays that I own to be able to serve them up via DLNA and also through a music server I run internally here. Bluray's like Tom Petty Mojo or Talking Heads Stop Making Sense when ripped to audio tracks yields much better audio experience than the equivalent versions of these that are not 24bit. I can hear a difference, and I don't by any means have the best system in the world. But it's enough to tell me that whenever possible, for those albums that I adore and want to adore for the next 40 years, it is worth putting the work in to extract the audio in the best way possible and tag appropriately, etc. I call it proper music archival, and it's no different than making sure all your valued books have a nice place on a shelf in your house, it's just the digital version of the very same thing - they are all assets, digital assets should have the same level of care applied as physical assets. But then, I grew up with computing in my life, and not everyone has the same perspective.

Thanks as always Bob, your contributions and insight are the main things that keep me on AVS in the first place. Cheers to you.

-Brian
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post #5737 of 10456
9/11/11 at 9:01pm
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Originally Posted by ManWithAPlan View Post
FLAC files work fine all day long. Update the software on your unit, it sounds like you are running out of date code. Try that first, before going any further with other remedies. Then, report exactly what software version your Oppo is running.
ManWithAPlan,
The Firmware version is BDP9x-52-0707 which is the latest version. Using Foobar as a media server has solved the problem. The Oppo is now showing all my Flac files. I think the problem was that I was trying to access the files directly off the server with Windows Media Sharing (using Windows 7). Which is odd, but I am good now.

Oh..and I forgot to mention how much I love the BDP-95. I used to own a Denon DBP-2012UDCI and that player was good but no match for the Oppo.

love it!!!
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post #5738 of 10456
9/11/11 at 9:18pm
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Originally Posted by MagnoliaMOE View Post
ManWithAPlan,
The Firmware version is BDP9x-52-0707 which is the latest version. Using Foobar as a media server has solved the problem. The Oppo is now showing all my Flac files. I think the problem was that I was trying to access the files directly off the server with Windows Media Sharing (using Windows 7). Which is odd, but I am good now.

Oh..and I forgot to mention how much I love the BDP-95. I used to own a Denon DBP-2012UDCI and that player was good but no match for the Oppo.

love it!!!
Excellent! All's well that ends well...good stuff. Enjoy the music!
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post #5739 of 10456
9/12/11 at 4:41am
If you need DLNA only for audio streaming, the foobar2000 DLNA server plugin is extremely effective and simple.
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post #5740 of 10456
9/12/11 at 6:41am
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Originally Posted by MagnoliaMOE View Post
ManWithAPlan,
.... Using Foobar as a media server has solved the problem. The Oppo is now showing all my Flac files. I think the problem was that I was trying to access the files directly off the server with Windows Media Sharing (using Windows 7). Which is odd, but I am good now.

...
Good stuff. You have more than one media server running and OPPO will allow you access to all that are running on the same machine. Win7 has built in DMS capability but the transcoding there is hard to understand and difficult to change. Foobar is your easy-to-configure server of choice for HD audio.
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post #5741 of 10456
9/12/11 at 7:25am
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Theoretically the 24 bit track has more dynamic range -- the difference between lowest and highest volumes -- than the 16 bit track. Human hearing can detect about a 20 bit dynamic range, so 16 is a bit shy of that and 24 is overkill.

The 96KHz track is able to faithfully record higher frequencies than the 44.1 KHz track. This value is the sample rate (whereas the bit width is the sample size). It can be shown mathematically that you MUST have at least twice the sample rate as the highest frequency you try to record, otherwise you are guaranteed to screw up the output. And what's worse, the LOWER frequencies also get screwed up -- what's called "aliasing"! So you have to filter the input to remove higher frequencies prior to sampling.

The nature of the filtering circuit is one difference, i.e., does it damage the lower frequencies? The higher that circuit has to operate, the less chance of that.

Human hearing for healthy young adults is limited to about 20KHz. So the 44.1 KHz sample rate should suffice, but practical circuit limitations make a higher rate a bit better. In addition, digital audio processing can introduce artifacts which are kind of like having let too high frequencies pass into the input.

Fancier digital processing algorithms can reduce/eliminate that (kind of like building filters into them), but that takes more time and processor power.

OR you can use a higher sample rate to begin with either by recording that way originally, or by "upsampling" the 44.1KHz prior to other processing.

Generally speaking, once you get above about 80KHz sampling rate, the human ear can't hear the difference no matter how good the playback equipment. So 96KHz should be plenty, although 192KHz or higher is used either out of an abundance if caution (if you expect lots of processing for example) or to hype the marketing.

Older adults can't hear as high even as 20KHz, so it is unlikely you will EVER hear the high frequency limit difference between a 44.1 and a 96 (or higher) track, even if it were demonstrably there when using lab equipment.

But you MIGHT hear the aliasing or processing artifacts which occur within the frequency limits of your hearing due to improper recording or less than careful processing.

First and foremost, the quality of the performance and the recording make far and away the biggest difference. Higher bit rate tracks (sample size times sample rate) are often also recorded with greater care and with less resort to tricks such as dynamic range compression. If the same care had been taken with the production of a lower bit rate track you would find it harder to hear the difference. Lesser dynamic range would likely be the first thing noticed.

(HDCD discs record 20 bit dynamic range in a 16 bit 44.1KHz track by matrixing in the extra info at the expense of adding some noise in the lowest volume passages, i.e., raising the noise floor.)

But if you record, say a 1KHz tone at modest volume, the two types of tracks will sound identical on the best equipment.

So whether you could hear the difference between perfectly made recordings at both rates depends on the nature of what's being recorded.
--Bob

Excellent post, Bob. A perfect summary of a complex topic.
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post #5742 of 10456
9/12/11 at 8:37am
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

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Human hearing for healthy young adults is limited to about 20KHz. So the 44.1 KHz sample rate should suffice, but practical circuit limitations make a higher rate a bit better. In addition, digital audio processing can introduce artifacts which are kind of like having let too high frequencies pass into the input.
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Older adults can't hear as high even as 20KHz, so it is unlikely you will EVER hear the high frequency limit difference between a 44.1 and a 96 (or higher) track, even if it were demonstrably there when using lab equipment.

But you MIGHT hear the aliasing or processing artifacts which occur within the frequency limits of your hearing due to improper recording or less than careful processing.
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--Bob

Here is a readable, not too technical note on human hearing and a paragraph on how it changes with age: Hearing and the Ear
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post #5743 of 10456
9/12/11 at 10:09am
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Originally Posted by ksubrama View Post


Thanks rdgrimes and Bob. I was afraid of that. I've had the Oppo for just about 10 days beyond the 30 day trial period, eeks.

Ok, I spoke with Oppo and they gave me 2 choices here, so hope y'all can help me make the right decision.

Oppo told me that my issue was very rare (bummer) and that:

1) I could either send in my unit for repair/service, or
2) get a replacement unit. This will more than likely be a refurb unit.

I'm confused about what to do. I'm concerned that my new unit started having issues in around 30 days, which leads me to wonder what else could be wrong under the hood. To that end, the replacement unit will work, but I'm concerned that it will be refurbished and I would have to spend time burning it in. That being said, with the replacement unit I have no downtime.


Any thoughts on how I should proceed?

Thanks,
KS
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post #5744 of 10456
9/12/11 at 10:23am
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Originally Posted by ksubrama View Post

Ok, I spoke with Oppo and they gave me 2 choices here, so hope y'all can help me make the right decision.

Oppo told me that my issue was very rare (bummer) and that:

1) I could either send in my unit for repair/service, or
2) get a replacement unit. This will more than likely be a refurb unit.

I'm confused about what to do. I'm concerned that my new unit started having issues in around 30 days, which leads me to wonder what else could be wrong under the hood. To that end, the replacement unit will work, but I'm concerned that it will be refurbished and I would have to spend time burning it in. That being said, with the replacement unit I have no downtime.


Any thoughts on how I should proceed?

Thanks,
KS

Did they give details on further warranty either way? In the past OPPO refurbs have been a good deal, same 30 day return and 1-year warranty as new.

But if you want to keep your own player, their repair turnaround time is pretty fast.

-Bill
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post #5745 of 10456
9/12/11 at 10:24am
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Originally Posted by ksubrama View Post

Ok, I spoke with Oppo and they gave me 2 choices here, so hope y'all can help me make the right decision.

Oppo told me that my issue was very rare (bummer) and that:

1) I could either send in my unit for repair/service, or
2) get a replacement unit. This will more than likely be a refurb unit.

I'm confused about what to do. I'm concerned that my new unit started having issues in around 30 days, which leads me to wonder what else could be wrong under the hood. To that end, the replacement unit will work, but I'm concerned that it will be refurbished and I would have to spend time burning it in. That being said, with the replacement unit I have no downtime.


Any thoughts on how I should proceed?

Thanks,
KS

Replacement unit all the way...as you said, God knows what else might be wrong with yours. And the downtime is unacceptable. Just get the refurb replacement unit, I'm sure they've gone through it extensively and it's probably a rock solid unit. And no downtime. Good luck with it, sorry to hear you're experiencing this.

Brian
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post #5746 of 10456
9/12/11 at 10:56am
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Originally Posted by ksubrama View Post

Ok, I spoke with Oppo and they gave me 2 choices here, so hope y'all can help me make the right decision.

Oppo told me that my issue was very rare (bummer) and that:

1) I could either send in my unit for repair/service, or
2) get a replacement unit. This will more than likely be a refurb unit.

I'm confused about what to do. I'm concerned that my new unit started having issues in around 30 days, which leads me to wonder what else could be wrong under the hood. To that end, the replacement unit will work, but I'm concerned that it will be refurbished and I would have to spend time burning it in. That being said, with the replacement unit I have no downtime.


Any thoughts on how I should proceed?

Thanks,
KS

There's really nothing here to get excited about. Your main board had a flash memory chip that failed. A certain percentage will do that. If you send your player in they will replace the main board. If you opt for a replacement unit, you'll get one that's had a similar repair or perhaps was returned because the original owner just wasn't happy with it. Do which ever is the least trouble for you. Oppo has given you a choice, how often does that happen?
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post #5747 of 10456
9/12/11 at 11:41am
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Originally Posted by ksubrama View Post

Ok, I spoke with Oppo and they gave me 2 choices here, so hope y'all can help me make the right decision.

Oppo told me that my issue was very rare (bummer) and that:

1) I could either send in my unit for repair/service, or
2) get a replacement unit. This will more than likely be a refurb unit.

I'm confused about what to do. I'm concerned that my new unit started having issues in around 30 days, which leads me to wonder what else could be wrong under the hood. To that end, the replacement unit will work, but I'm concerned that it will be refurbished and I would have to spend time burning it in. That being said, with the replacement unit I have no downtime.


Any thoughts on how I should proceed?

Thanks,
KS

As others have said, this is really no big deal. ALL electronics are subject to a small percentage of early failures -- what's called "infant mortality" in the business. That's what your warranty is FOR. And it's also why most manufacturers think it sufficient to offer only a 30 or 90 day warranty as opposed to the one year warranty on your Oppo player.

There's no reason to believe your unlucky failure here means other stuff is also likely to fail, nor that you should be worried about getting a replacement (refurb) player from Oppo. Odds are you'll be fine with either a repair or a replacement. Personally, I'd go for the replacement since your player is useful (with some effort) until that arrives. If you go for a repair, Oppo's turn around time on repairs is lickety-split. The delay will be shipping time both ways.

By the way, later in the product life, Oppo actually sells refurb units that they don't need to keep in inventory for repair replacements. These are only modestly discounted and get snapped up as fast as they hit the web site -- I mean within minutes. That will give you an idea of how highly people think of Oppo's "refurb" units.
--Bob
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post #5748 of 10456
9/12/11 at 12:14pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

As others have said, this is really no big deal. ALL electronics are subject to a small percentage of early failures -- what's called "infant mortality" in the business. That's what your warranty is FOR. And it's also why most manufacturers think it sufficient to offer only a 30 or 90 day warranty as opposed to the one year warranty on your Oppo player.

There's no reason to believe your unlucky failure here means other stuff is also likely to fail, nor that you should be worried about getting a replacement (refurb) player from Oppo. Odds are you'll be fine with either a repair or a replacement. Personally, I'd go for the replacement since your player is useful (with some effort) until that arrives. If you go for a repair, Oppo's turn around time on repairs is lickety-split. The delay will be shipping time both ways.

By the way, later in the product life, Oppo actually sells refurb units that they don't need to keep in inventory for repair replacements. These are only modestly discounted and get snapped up as fast as they hit the web site -- I mean within minutes. That will give you an idea of how highly people think of Oppo's "refurb" units.
--Bob

Wmcclain, Manwithaplan, Rdgrimes, and BP,
Thanks for the helpful feedback. I opted for the replacement unit, which will still fall under my current warranty etc (i.e the clock does not start new, and the end date does not change).

Cheers,
KS
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post #5749 of 10456
9/12/11 at 12:47pm
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Originally Posted by ksubrama View Post

Wmcclain, Manwithaplan, Rdgrimes, and BP,
Thanks for the helpful feedback. I opted for the replacement unit, which will still fall under my current warranty etc (i.e the clock does not start new, and the end date does not change).

Cheers,
KS

With Oppo, it's best to avoid traditional thinking about warrantys. Oppo is well known for doing free repairs on out of warranty players, and even if they charge you it will be a flat rate. I think that's currently about $69 for the BDP-95. Oppo will take care of you for as long as you own the player.
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post #5750 of 10456
9/12/11 at 2:14pm
Thread Starter 
Received my October issue of Stereophile and OPPO has finally released an "A+" product for their "SACD, DVD-Audio & CD Players & Transports & Music Servers" category. The BDP-95 is also the cheapest in the category at $999 MSRP, followed by the Sony SCD-XA5400ES at $1500 MSRP.
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post #5751 of 10456
9/12/11 at 2:30pm
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Received my October issue of Stereophile and OPPO has finally released an "A+" product for their "SACD, DVD-Audio & CD Players & Transports & Music Servers" category. The BDP-95 is also the cheapest in the category at $999 MSRP, followed by the Sony SCD-XA5400ES at $1500 MSRP.

There is nothing in the article indicating this is an A+ product. In fact Stereophile's new rating won't be released until next year as it was not reviewed in time for this year's rating. I'm not bashing the 95, but rather, trying to keep the information accurate.
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post #5752 of 10456
9/12/11 at 2:47pm
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Originally Posted by gbaby View Post

There is nothing in the article indicating this is an A+ product. In fact Stereophile's new rating won't be released until next year as it was not reviewed in time for this year's rating. I'm not bashing the 95, but rather, trying to keep the information accurate.

Are you sure LOL! It's the giant now and bad as I hate to say it, told you guys so!
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post #5753 of 10456
9/12/11 at 2:58pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by gbaby View Post

There is nothing in the article indicating this is an A+ product. In fact Stereophile's new rating won't be released until next year as it was not reviewed in time for this year's rating. I'm not bashing the 95, but rather, trying to keep the information accurate.

This is their "Best of the Best: 700 Recommended Components" issue that they have every year. They place products they have reviewed into categories and then break up the categories by ranking/Class. The classes are A to K in descending order. To quoteth the source:

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Class A
Best in attainable sound for a component of its kind, almost without practical considerations; "the least musical compromise". A Class A system is one for which you don't have to make a leap of faith to believe that youre hearing the real thing. With Super Audio CD, 24/96 DAD, and DVD-Audio now available, we have created a new Class, A+, for the best performance in those digital categories. Class A now represents the best that can be obtained from conventional 16/44.1 CD medium. We also created Class A+ categories for turntables and phono preamps, to recognize the achievements of the Continum Caliburn and Boulder 2008, respectively.

OPPO BDP-95 is clearly listed as the first product on the first column on Page 81 of the October 2011 (Vol 34 No 10) issue of Stereophile.

I have much better things to do with my time to make crap up... but apparently not enough on my plate to prohibit me from copying full paragraphs or text.
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post #5754 of 10456
9/12/11 at 4:10pm
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Originally Posted by gbaby View Post

There is nothing in the article indicating this is an A+ product. In fact Stereophile's new rating won't be released until next year as it was not reviewed in time for this year's rating. I'm not bashing the 95, but rather, trying to keep the information accurate.

Sorry. Not so.
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post #5755 of 10456
9/12/11 at 5:43pm
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Received my October issue of Stereophile and OPPO has finally released an "A+" product for their "SACD, DVD-Audio & CD Players & Transports & Music Servers" category. The BDP-95 is also the cheapest in the category at $999 MSRP, followed by the Sony SCD-XA5400ES at $1500 MSRP.

True. I received my copy of The Stereophile and there it was "Class A+". Love it!
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post #5756 of 10456
9/12/11 at 6:05pm
Thread Starter 
Release date: September 12, 2011
Category: Public Beta Release
Main Version: BDP9x-55-0902
Loader Version: CN0900
Sub Version: MCU93-09-0218 (BDP-93), MCU95-08-0218 (BDP-95)

Release Notes:

1. Added Pandora Internet Radio streaming. For public accounts (free registration), the audio quality is measured to be 44.1KHz/16bit, 2-channel. You can access Pandora through the player's Home Menu icon, Home Menu -> Internet, or by pressing SOURCE and selecting Pandora. Currently limited to U.S. residents only.

2. Improved the PGS subtitle support in M2TS/TS playback, through USB drive, external hard drive or DLNA streaming. Customers have reported that the movie picture could occasionally freeze up during the playback, while the OSD timing counter was still moving forward. The issue has been solved in this release.

3. Resolved the subtitle flickering or image stuttering issue during some 3D movie playback. This issue has been reported to happen randomly on some 3D movies released in Asia or Europe, sample titles include "Step Up", "SAW" and "Resident Evil: Afterlife".

4. Resolved the image vertical stretch issue observed on some legacy DVD's. Customers have reported that when playing these DVD's using HDMI 1 and setting Aspect Ratio to "16:9 Wide/Auto", the pictures were vertically stretched. This issue could happen to DVD's issued before or around 2000, and sample titles include "The Abyss", "Titanic", "TWELVE O'CLOCK HIGH (2002)" and "1941 (1979)".

5. Improved general disc compatibility based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples. Sample movies include "Avatar (3D)", "Journey to Mecca" and "Alice (2009 Miniseries)".
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post #5757 of 10456
9/12/11 at 6:12pm
Just want to jump in that my BDP95 arrived yesterday.

Very quick overseas delivery, AND didn't have to pay customs (thanks AUD !!!).

BUT ! I had such a headache when I got home from work last night, I couldn't have a go at playing all those lovely SACDs i have waiting in the pipeline
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post #5758 of 10456
9/12/11 at 6:34pm
As usual, a reminder for folks with the European BDP-93EU or BDP-95EU models: The above, 0902 Public Beta firmware is NOT for your players. You need to wait for the European firmware version to be released on the Oppo UK site.

Also note that Pandora support is currently limited to US residents.
--Bob
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post #5759 of 10456
9/12/11 at 7:46pm
OK I'm completey disgusted. I've spent way too may hours trying to get my BDP95 to be seen on the network. I mean "way - too - many - hours".

It sees my router with a 100% visibility. I'm using the wireless connection attached to rear of the Oppo. I can scan all day and it will always come up with a failed connection. It appears to be seen in my network map in my win 7 computer as a wireless hub.

When I go manual connection I can give it the 2WIRE695 address and the security key, but WTF does it need for a security mode?

Sorry for my rant but rarely do I have computer issues. I'm the guy who often helps others with this crp!

Searches have yeilded no answers. I'd rather be watching football.....
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post #5760 of 10456
9/12/11 at 8:02pm
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Originally Posted by NoFlyZone View Post

OK I'm completey disgusted. I've spent way too may hours trying to get my BDP95 to be seen on the network. I mean "way - too - many - hours".

It sees my router with a 100% visibility. I'm using the wireless connection attached to rear of the Oppo. I can scan all day and it will always come up with a failed connection. It appears to be seen in my network map in my win 7 computer as a wireless hub.

When I go manual connection I can give it the 2WIRE695 address and the security key, but WTF does it need for a security mode?

Sorry for my rant but rarely do I have computer issues. I'm the guy who often helps others with this crp!

Searches have yeilded no answers. I'd rather be watching football.....

The security mode is the type of protection you have set up on your Wifi base station for this Wifi network.

The simplest, most common, and least safe mode is WEP. If you are using the factory defaults in your Wifi base station, that's the most likely one.

The next most common is the safer (and recommended) WPA2(AES).

If you don't know what's set in your Wifi base station, and can't find out from its own status displays, then try those two first. Remember that the network name and the password are both upper/lower case sensitive.

And also remember that the network name is NOT the hardware network identifier (MAC Address) of your base station. So if you are entering a network name with a form like 12:34:56:78:ab:cd, then you are entering the wrong thing.

NOTE: Scan can only find "open" networks that broadcast their name as an available Wifi choice. If your base station is set to be a "closed" network, then it won't broadcast its name -- which means you need to enter both the network name and the password as a Manual setup. BUT, if you go into the base station and tell it to make the network open -- temporarily -- then the Oppo can find it via Scan. After the Oppo finds it and things are working, you can tell the base station to make the network closed again, and the Oppo stuff will still work, because it already knows what name to use. (If the Oppo finds the "open" network name in its scan, then it will also be able to find out what security mode to use, so you won't need to figure that out.)

The toughest situation is if you have set your Wifi base station to only allow connections from a fixed set of devices. In that case you need to get the Wifi "MAC Address" from the Oppo (Setup > Network Setup > Connection Information -- use the MAC Address for wireless, not for ethernet) and enter that into the table of allowed devices in your Wifi base station.

There are only a handful of security mode options, so really, if you have to try them in turn in the Oppo, it doesn't take that long. Once you find it, you are done. The Oppo will remember it.
--Bob
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