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post #6301 of 10431
10/18/11 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

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From an actual acoustic standpoint I call ********, but OPPO added it to their players by popular demand and it does not harm the player (unlike, say, 24Hz output for DVD-Video).

ah ha, so "by popular demand" must mean that in fact OPPO DO add features if enough requests are received .. unless I misunderstand what "popular demand" means

I have an email in to OPPO asking if they have in fact done any measurements which show any measureable differences (listening or otherwise) in analog or digital audio output with/without Pure Audio mode on.
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post #6302 of 10431
10/18/11 at 1:06pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

That's not the way a digital signal works.

Transmitting 0 values for the three components that make up each pixel does not result in an absence of signal (perhaps like zero Volts on an Analog cable -- although that's ALSO not how "Black" is transmitted in normal YPbPr on Component Analog Video cabling), but rather a stream of "0" bits along each raster line.

Those zero bits have to be clocked into the signal and also clocked out of the signal at the other end. Even if you don't intend to USE that video, you still have to process the bits to satisfy Copy Protection and to find and extract the multiplexed Audio stream.

The process of sending and receiving those digital bits does not work well if there are no 1/0 transitions in the signal. And other problems arise if the signal's average voltage changes according to the content being sent. So the electrical encoding scheme includes forced state changes between 1 and 0 ANYWAY to deal with that. The point being, a "black" Video frame is still a very busy digital signal, even during the "active" portion of each "Black" raster line.

Here's an article on the TMDS encoding format used at the physical transmission layer of HDMI:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans...tial_signaling

By the way, Pure Mode in the OPPO sends Black for Video if you want to experiment with whether or not you can hear a difference. (It also turns off the Front Panel display.). Toggle Pure Mode On/Off with the "P" Pure button on the upper left of the remote. The Lamp button in the lower right can also be used to illuminate the Front Panel display for a couple seconds while still leaving Video as Black. A design goal of the player is that you should NOT hear a difference between Pure Mode On/Off. Signal separation and shielding take care of that. But your AVR might be different.
--Bob

Thanks for the reference Bob. I had forgotten that HDMI transmitters use TMDS signalling to minimize EMI and DC balance the signal as well. Reminds me of the same scheme used in fiberoptic transmission where extra ones and zeros are inserted in the datastream to ensure an equal number of '1's and '0's within a given data frame to DC balance the fiberoptic cable.

Anyways, 'Pure-whatever' should have absolutely no effect on the quality of HDMI audio as the TMDS scheme would cancell out any induced noise by the electronics within the player. Besides, one has to maintain a audio bit-error-rate(BER) of zero, regardless of the audio mode in order to pass the DTS and Dolby standards.

Pure audio only affects (if so) analog audio only and audio only if your sustem is able to resolve such low level details or your ears are that good!
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post #6303 of 10431
10/18/11 at 1:51pm
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Originally Posted by neutron77 View Post

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I have an email in to OPPO asking if they have in fact done any measurements which show any measureable differences (listening or otherwise) in analog or digital audio output with/without Pure Audio mode on.

Part of OPPO's response:
"Both analog and digital audio output can benefit from the quieter EMI environment and more power reserve. However, the change might be very small. We have not been able to measure any change with our audio analyzer instrument, but in listening evaluations some listeners noticed a difference"
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post #6304 of 10431
10/18/11 at 2:00pm
Has anyone noticed if the machine runs any cooler in Pure Audio mode?
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post #6305 of 10431
10/18/11 at 3:56pm
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Originally Posted by etzeppy View Post

Has anyone noticed if the machine runs any cooler in Pure Audio mode?

It's the analog audio board that's sooooo freak'in HOT in the 1st place.
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post #6306 of 10431
10/19/11 at 6:18am
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Originally Posted by BIG ED View Post

It's the analog audio board that's sooooo freak'in HOT in the 1st place.

Time to get the old thermal imager out and check out the "hot chips" ... but sadly I musn't do that until the 1 year warranty period expires.
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post #6307 of 10431
10/19/11 at 9:23am
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Originally Posted by neutron77 View Post

Time to get the old thermal imager out and check out the "hot chips" ... but sadly I musn't do that until the 1 year warranty period expires.

pics:
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=91731.0
scroll down too "reply 3".
CrowdED sucker!
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post #6308 of 10431
10/19/11 at 9:40am
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Originally Posted by BIG ED View Post

pics:
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=91731.0
scroll down too "reply 3".
CrowdED sucker!

I've seen these types of low-resolution pictures of the boards and internals, but nothing high-res enough that I can read the resistor values
After warranty runs out, I'll open it and check out the actual circuit details (mainly interested in the circuit around the output opamps ... you know why by now.)

Anyhow, the LM4562 opamps should run fairly cool (unless you short-circuit any analog outputs of course), even in a tight space with little ambient circulation. If the heat is actually generated by components ON that audio board, my guess is the DACs or the voltage regulators.
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post #6309 of 10431
10/19/11 at 1:35pm
Hi Forum menbers,

This is a new post seeking help!

My dilemma is as follows; I currently own an Outlaw 950 Preamp/Processor
which is dated and does not have the latest sound/movie processing formats nor HDMI. It is in excellent condition and does a fine job with analog music
which I enjoy very much. However, since I will be upgrading and purchasing a new Plasma TV shortly (65" Panny VT30 or the Samsung 7000 or 8000) I am looking/need to upgrade my processor as well.

I am considering going with the Oppo BDP 95 Blu-ray 3D player which would
allow me to have the latest for my movie viewing, and also the analog connections for stereo music listening through my existing Outlaw 950 for processing. This would cost $1,000 for the Oppo BDP 95, and keep my existing outdated but capable processor in place.

OR, I could replace my Outlaw 950 with the new Marantz AV7005 Surround
Processor ($1,500) and then just go with a Panny or Samsung Blu-ray 3D player $200-300 ........ or even the Oppo BDP 93 Blu-ray 3D player for $400. The new Marantz offers a lot for the price including all the latest formats, HDMI 4, and Audessy processing.

I'm just in a quandary as to what would really be the best decision to make
here??? I realize keeping my Outlaw would save me $$$, but am I really making the best longer term big picture decision? Or possibly I am overlooking something I should also be considering?

The expert knowledge, input and thoughts of all would be greatly appreciated. I need direction with this dilemma please.

Thanks much,

Shadmeister
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post #6310 of 10431
10/19/11 at 2:15pm
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Originally Posted by shadmeister66 View Post

Hi Forum menbers,

This is a new post seeking help!

My dilemma is as follows; I currently own an Outlaw 950 Preamp/Processor
which is dated and does not have the latest sound/movie processing formats nor HDMI.

There are many compelling arguments for updating your AVR to a current unit, and they have very little to do with your choice of player. DSP, EQ and room corrections are but a couple reasons. The decision on the player should be based on features and functions - do you want SACD/DVD-A and ISO file playback, etc. The combo of the Marantz 7005 and Oppo BDP-93 is a popular one and would probably be the best of the options you mention. There are also many less pricey AVRs that will provide the same functions as the Marantz.
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post #6311 of 10431
10/19/11 at 2:19pm
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Originally Posted by shadmeister66 View Post

Hi Forum menbers,

This is a new post seeking help!

My dilemma is as follows; I currently own an Outlaw 950 Preamp/Processor
which is dated and does not have the latest sound/movie processing formats nor HDMI. It is in excellent condition and does a fine job with analog music
which I enjoy very much. However, since I will be upgrading and purchasing a new Plasma TV shortly (65" Panny VT30 or the Samsung 7000 or 8000) I am looking/need to upgrade my processor as well.

I am considering going with the Oppo BDP 95 Blu-ray 3D player which would
allow me to have the latest for my movie viewing, and also the analog connections for stereo music listening through my existing Outlaw 950 for processing. This would cost $1,000 for the Oppo BDP 95, and keep my existing outdated but capable processor in place.

OR, I could replace my Outlaw 950 with the new Marantz AV7005 Surround
Processor ($1,500) and then just go with a Panny or Samsung Blu-ray 3D player $200-300 ........ or even the Oppo BDP 93 Blu-ray 3D player for $400. The new Marantz offers a lot for the price including all the latest formats, HDMI 4, and Audessy processing.

I'm just in a quandary as to what would really be the best decision to make
here??? I realize keeping my Outlaw would save me $$$, but am I really making the best longer term big picture decision? Or possibly I am overlooking something I should also be considering?

The expert knowledge, input and thoughts of all would be greatly appreciated. I need direction with this dilemma please.

Thanks much,

Shadmeister

I understand exactly where you are coming from. In my research I can't really find anyone that has done both sides to give a perspective. I'm dealing with a B&K Ref 50 vs Marantz AV7005. I took the plunge on the 95 and have it connected directly to my amps. I'm now trying to decide what to do for my other devices. I still need a preamp for them. Do I just get the AV7005 and then try the analog vs digital on the Oppo and maybe sell the 95 if the difference isn't that great? If I had deep pockets I would just keep them both.

I would ask yourself what do you listen to most? music, movies, tv? I do say that bluray movies do sound better with the 95 than with the 83SE.

I don't have the answer but wanted to add some comments to the issue at hand. I know there are some users with both the 95 and AV7005 and maybe they can chime in with their perspective of using the digital in with audessy vs analog from the 95???
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post #6312 of 10431
10/19/11 at 2:37pm
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Originally Posted by shadmeister66 View Post

Hi Forum menbers,

This is a new post seeking help!

My dilemma is as follows; I currently own an Outlaw 950 Preamp/Processor
which is dated and does not have the latest sound/movie processing formats nor HDMI. It is in excellent condition and does a fine job with analog music
which I enjoy very much. However, since I will be upgrading and purchasing a new Plasma TV shortly (65" Panny VT30 or the Samsung 7000 or 8000) I am looking/need to upgrade my processor as well.

I am considering going with the Oppo BDP 95 Blu-ray 3D player which would
allow me to have the latest for my movie viewing, and also the analog connections for stereo music listening through my existing Outlaw 950 for processing. This would cost $1,000 for the Oppo BDP 95, and keep my existing outdated but capable processor in place.

OR, I could replace my Outlaw 950 with the new Marantz AV7005 Surround
Processor ($1,500) and then just go with a Panny or Samsung Blu-ray 3D player $200-300 ........ or even the Oppo BDP 93 Blu-ray 3D player for $400. The new Marantz offers a lot for the price including all the latest formats, HDMI 4, and Audessy processing.

I'm just in a quandary as to what would really be the best decision to make
here??? I realize keeping my Outlaw would save me $$$, but am I really making the best longer term big picture decision? Or possibly I am overlooking something I should also be considering?

The expert knowledge, input and thoughts of all would be greatly appreciated. I need direction with this dilemma please.

Thanks much,

Shadmeister

Does the outlaw have unprocessed analog multichannel inputs? If it does, I would personally keep it and go with the oppo BDP-95. I think the overall sound will be better and the oppo will handle your audio processing needs. I have a Yamaha receiver with all of the modern audio processing features. I run it mostly in "Pure Direct" mode, which bypasses DSP and video processing. Even though the Yamaha has hdmi inputs, I have the 95 connected directly to my TV for video and to the unprocessed analog MC inputs for audio. I have the other HDMI output on the 95 connected the Yamaha but I never run it that way. It does not sound or look as good. If you have good speakers, Audessy is unnecessary, and Pure Direct mode bypasses digital EQ anyway. For DSP based EQ to work, it has to convert analog sources to PCM, process them, and convert back to analog for amplification. If you like the Outlaw, stick with it and don't get sucked into DSP features.
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post #6313 of 10431
10/19/11 at 3:07pm
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Originally Posted by etzeppy View Post

If you have good speakers, Audessy is unnecessary

Audyssey (and the various other room correction options provided by various manufactures) is intended to correct for less than perfect acoustics in the room. So unless you have an acoustically perfect room (or close to it), the odds are very good that Audyssey will improve the sound if the calibration is done properly, regardless of how good the speakers are.
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post #6314 of 10431
10/19/11 at 3:47pm
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Audyssey (and the various other room correction options provided by various manufactures) is intended to correct for less than perfect acoustics in the room. So unless you have an acoustically perfect room (or close to it), the odds are very good that Audyssey will improve the sound if the calibration is done properly, regardless of how good the speakers are.

I'm really not trying to pick a fight, but this is the BDP-95 thread. I don't see a way to use Audyssey, ypao or the others without defeating the intent of the BDP-95. If you use the analog outputs of the 95, which would be the only reason to own it, you can't use DPS correction/EQ without going through another intermediate A-D-A process. At that point, just get the BDP-93 and run it HDMI. On my Yamaha, the analog multichannel inputs are unprocessed anyway, as they should be. I can run yapo if I want, but it does not effect playback of the BDP-95. I must use the distance settings in the BDP-95 to tweak for room corrections. I stand by my initial recommendation for those that are interested in the upgraded analog performance of the BDP-95.
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post #6315 of 10431
10/19/11 at 3:50pm
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Audyssey (and the various other room correction options provided by various manufactures) is intended to correct for less than perfect acoustics in the room. So unless you have an acoustically perfect room (or close to it), the odds are very good that Audyssey will improve the sound if the calibration is done properly, regardless of how good the speakers are.

But it doesn't correct poor room acoustics! Your still have what you started with no matter how Audyssey or others is applied, just more signal processing that isn't going to change the physics of the room I would keep the Outlaw and pick up the 95 and with the extra cash apply bass traps in the corners and kill the first reflection points with broadband pannels which can be done for cheap these days, this and well placed good speakers is a first do no harm approach and keeps the original signal as pure as possible!
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post #6316 of 10431
10/19/11 at 4:06pm
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Originally Posted by etzeppy View Post

i'm really not trying to pick a fight, but this is the bdp-95 thread. I don't see a way to use audyssey, ypao or the others without defeating the intent of the bdp-95. If you use the analog outputs of the 95, which would be the only reason to own it, you can't use dps correction/eq without going through another intermediate a-d-a process. At that point, just get the bdp-93 and run it hdmi. On my yamaha, the analog multichannel inputs are unprocessed anyway, as they should be. I can run yapo if i want, but it does not effect playback of the bdp-95. I must use the distance settings in the bdp-95 to tweak for room corrections. I stand by my initial recommendation for those that are interested in the upgraded analog performance of the bdp-95.

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post #6317 of 10431
10/19/11 at 6:19pm
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Originally Posted by shadmeister66 View Post

Hi Forum menbers,

This is a new post seeking help!

My dilemma is as follows; I currently own an Outlaw 950 Preamp/Processor
which is dated and does not have the latest sound/movie processing formats nor HDMI. It is in excellent condition and does a fine job with analog music
which I enjoy very much. However, since I will be upgrading and purchasing a new Plasma TV shortly (65" Panny VT30 or the Samsung 7000 or 8000) I am looking/need to upgrade my processor as well.

I am considering going with the Oppo BDP 95 Blu-ray 3D player which would
allow me to have the latest for my movie viewing, and also the analog connections for stereo music listening through my existing Outlaw 950 for processing. This would cost $1,000 for the Oppo BDP 95, and keep my existing outdated but capable processor in place.

OR, I could replace my Outlaw 950 with the new Marantz AV7005 Surround
Processor ($1,500) and then just go with a Panny or Samsung Blu-ray 3D player $200-300 ........ or even the Oppo BDP 93 Blu-ray 3D player for $400. The new Marantz offers a lot for the price including all the latest formats, HDMI 4, and Audessy processing.

I'm just in a quandary as to what would really be the best decision to make
here??? I realize keeping my Outlaw would save me $$$, but am I really making the best longer term big picture decision? Or possibly I am overlooking something I should also be considering?

The expert knowledge, input and thoughts of all would be greatly appreciated. I need direction with this dilemma please.

Thanks much,

Shadmeister

I was in a similar position with an arcam avr300. I ended up getting the 95 around the same time i found a used bryston 5ch.
The arcam is a high end receiver that sounds very good into PSB stratus golds. The amp external amp was a bigger improvement even in mch than the 95 was but the 95 was better then the ps3 it replaced. I used analog out to into the arcam rather than optical from the ps3 and the arcam did surorisingly good with its DAC, but the 95 was noticeably better. You could say hugely better just because I heard it immediately, but it wasnt as big a difference as I expected.
Then I connected the 95 directly to the amp and got another improvement, immediately noticeable, and I've left it that way except for an a couple a-b comparisons which always gave the nod to the 95/amp as expected.

In short it's a good upgrade and I highly recommend the 95. But the lossless codecs aren't as important as good electronics in my experience, havingf finally tested (more detailed than desribed here). The high bitrate lossy DTS codecs on BD are very good and a good DAC can do a fantastic job that rivals lossless IMO. DVD DTS codecs are another matter, they do not compare.
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post #6318 of 10431
10/19/11 at 6:40pm
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Originally Posted by etzeppy View Post

I'm really not trying to pick a fight, but this is the BDP-95 thread. I don't see a way to use Audyssey, ypao or the others without defeating the intent of the BDP-95. If you use the analog outputs of the 95, which would be the only reason to own it, you can't use DPS correction/EQ without going through another intermediate A-D-A process. At that point, just get the BDP-93 and run it HDMI. On my Yamaha, the analog multichannel inputs are unprocessed anyway, as they should be. I can run yapo if I want, but it does not effect playback of the BDP-95. I must use the distance settings in the BDP-95 to tweak for room corrections. I stand by my initial recommendation for those that are interested in the upgraded analog performance of the BDP-95.

No need to pick a fight. I was simply addressing your point regarding good speakers being a substitute for room correction - they are not. A room with good (or preferably, great) acoustics is a substitute for room correction (and generally a much better substitute, but many people don't have that option). Hopefully someone using gear in the league of the BDP-95 has good (or great) speakers regardless of whether they use room correction or not .

And yes, the whole point of getting the 95 instead of the 93 is for the high quality analog outputs. Subjecting the analog outputs to extra A->D and D->A conversions doesn't make much sense in most cases.

Unlike your Yamaha, my Denon processor allows me to pass analog through completely unprocessed, with a fixed analog crossover to allow the subwoofer to be used with 2 channel material (or material that doesn't have .1 content), or with full speaker configuration (and a resulting A->D and D->A conversion) with or without Audyssey. And of course it can handle the audio from the HDMI connection as well. This gives me a lot of flexibility, but I usually go with unprocessed analog or HMDI (with Audyssey) depending on what I'm playing and what mood I'm in.
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post #6319 of 10431
10/19/11 at 7:12pm
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

No need to pick a fight. I was simply addressing your point regarding good speakers being a substitute for room correction - they are not.

Actually without room corrections, good speakers aren't so good.
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post #6320 of 10431
10/19/11 at 7:55pm
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Originally Posted by neutron77 View Post

I've seen these types of low-resolution pictures of the boards and internals, but nothing high-res enough that I can read the resistor values
After warranty runs out, I'll open it and check out the actual circuit details (mainly interested in the circuit around the output opamps ... you know why by now.)

Anyhow, the LM4562 opamps should run fairly cool (unless you short-circuit any analog outputs of course), even in a tight space with little ambient circulation. If the heat is actually generated by components ON that audio board, my guess is the DACs or the voltage regulators.

I've heard it "is" the DAC.
The SABRE 32 Reference ES9018 from ESS Technology.
And the 95 uses two of em.
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post #6321 of 10431
10/19/11 at 8:01pm
"The room is the 1st & most important component"
Said by a very wise man...
me!

I may have plagiarized a little bit tho.
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post #6322 of 10431
10/19/11 at 8:42pm
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Originally Posted by shadmeister66 View Post

Hi Forum menbers,

This is a new post seeking help!

I'm just in a quandary as to what would really be the best decision to make
here??? I realize keeping my Outlaw would save me $$$, but am I really making the best longer term big picture decision? Or possibly I am overlooking something I should also be considering?

The expert knowledge, input and thoughts of all would be greatly appreciated. I need direction with this dilemma please.

Thanks much,

Shadmeister

Shadmeister,

I'm not a resident expert, but I have stayed in a Holiday Express a few times...

A lot depends on your room/set-up.

I have the Outlaw 970/7125 combo in a non challenging room and chose to go the 95 route in March. To me the 95 is the perfect "bang-for-the-buck" solution to upgrade considering the availability of the Outlaw analoge bypass switch for the analogue input. I also purchased a new 3D panny 50." I simply use the HDMI 1 straight to the panny and analogue out for ALL movie/music selections.

It's a solid solution and keeps the upgrade options for processor open for later...i.e. Outlaw 978 (if/when it ever hits the streets)/AV7500). With this solution, you do lose the ARC capability with the new processors, but depending on your room set-up, you may not need it.

If your room is G2G, you can save about $900 this route too. Good luck and welcome to a very educational thread!
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post #6323 of 10431
10/19/11 at 8:53pm
I have had my BDP-95 for a week now, and while it is a very fine machine, for $1000 so far I am not that impressed. Maybe I am missing something so I am looking for some guidance.

My set up is as follows; Onkyo PR SC-886 pre-amp, Outlaw 7700 (200 WPC x 7 channels), Klipsch RF-7 mains (with the crossovers modded by Dean G), RC-7 Center (Dean G modded crosover), RS7 surrounds, CDT-5800 rear surrounds, and an Outlaw LFM-EX Subwoofer.

I have a 400 Sony CD Jukebox and a Denon DCD-1500 single disc CD player that I paid $600 for back in 1986.

I had run Audessy on the Onkyo, then turned it off and fine tuned it with a tape measure for distance and a Radio Shack SPL meter for volume for both the Onkyo and the Oppo.

I watched the new Blu Ray Pirates movie today, which has a DTS MA 7.1 soundtrack and it looked and sounded great on my Panasonic TC-P65S1 plasma (which is ISF calibrated). Bythe way, it is hooked up via HDMI.

I also have the 95 hooked up to the Onkyo with RCA cables for the Left and Right analogue setup using the "A.ux 1" input on the Onkyo.

Listening to "Mudcrutch" (Tom Petty) it sounded very good, but not "oh my god this $1,000 DVD/CD player sounds out of this world I cant believe it" good. The same with Dire Straits' Brothers in Arms.

Before I return the 95 and order a 93 ( I still want a very nice Blu Ray/Cd player for my system to supplement my PS3), I cant see spending $1000 on the 95 when I can get a 93 for $500 less.

Am I missing something somewhere? Its not like I have a $300 receiver with $300 speakers.

FLSHBACK to 1986; I bought a NAD pre-amp, Klipsch KG4 speakers and the Denon CD player and I could not believe my ears how good that system rocked and the detail in the sound. Added shortly after this was a Bang and Olufson turntable which I still have. To this day, I can throw "Thriller" on the B & O and folks cant believe how good it sounds.

PLEASE HELP with advice please!
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post #6324 of 10431
10/19/11 at 8:57pm
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Originally Posted by cp1966 View Post

I have had my BDP-95 for a week now, and while it is a very fine machine, for $1000 so far I am not that impressed. Maybe I am missing something so I am looking for some guidance.

My set up is as follows; Onkyo PR SC-886 pre-amp, Outlaw 7700 (200 WPC x 7 channels), Klipsch RF-7 mains (with the crossovers modded by Dean G), RC-7 Center (Dean G modded crosover), RS7 surrounds, CDT-5800 rear surrounds, and an Outlaw LFM-EX Subwoofer.

I have a 400 Sony CD Jukebox and a Denon DCD-1500 single disc CD player that I paid $600 for back in 1986.

I had run Audessy on the Onkyo, then turned it off and fine tuned it with a tape measure for distance and a Radio Shack SPL meter for volume for both the Onkyo and the Oppo.

I watched the new Blu Ray Pirates movie today, which has a DTS MA 7.1 soundtrack and it looked and sounded great on my Panasonic TC-P65S1 plasma (which is ISF calibrated). Bythe way, it is hooked up via HDMI.

I also have the 95 hooked up to the Onkyo with RCA cables for the Left and Right analogue setup using the "A.ux 1" input on the Onkyo.

Listening to "Mudcrutch" (Tom Petty) it sounded very good, but not "oh my god this $1,000 DVD/CD player sounds out of this world I cant believe it" good. The same with Dire Straits' Brothers in Arms.

Before I return the 95 and order a 93 ( I still want a very nice Blu Ray/Cd player for my system to supplement my PS3), I cant see spending $1000 on the 95 when I can get a 93 for $500 less.

Am I missing something somewhere? Its not like I have a $300 receiver with $300 speakers.

FLSHBACK to 1986; I bought a NAD pre-amp, Klipsch KG4 speakers and the Denon CD player and I could not believe my ears how good that system rocked and the detail in the sound. Added shortly after this was a Bang and Olufson turntable which I still have. To this day, I can throw "Thriller" on the B & O and folks cant believe how good it sounds.

PLEASE HELP with advice please!

Is the Aux 1 redigitizing signal?
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post #6325 of 10431
10/19/11 at 9:12pm
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Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post


Is the Aux 1 redigitizing signal?

Good point. Make sure the Onkyo is set to Direct or Pure Audio. If it says Stereo, it is applying Audyssey and doing an A/D/A conversion.
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post #6326 of 10431
10/19/11 at 9:29pm
Try an experiment. Connect the Oppo directly to the left/right front channels of the amp and use the volume on the 95. Any improvements?
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post #6327 of 10431
10/20/11 at 2:37am
I don't believe anyone has written about this yet, but less than a week ago, Gene DellaSala of Audioholics posted a review of the Pandora upgrade on a BDP-95 in the publication's Pro Review section. Conclusion:

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There are few A/V products these days that I really get excited about. When Oppo released the BDP-95, we were pretty eager to get our hands on one. From its benchmark performance to flawless operation, the BDP-95 left us wanting very little. But, of course, I particularly like the ability to stream music sources such as Pandora to my family room system. At the time, Oppo didn't support this feature, until now.... We are happy to see that Oppo is vigorously supporting their products with routine firmware upgrades. Pandora support is icing on the cake for us. We look forward to seeing what else Oppo has in store for future upgrades. In the meantime, we're loving it as is!
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post #6328 of 10431
10/20/11 at 4:18am
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Originally Posted by shadmeister66 View Post

My dilemma is as follows; I currently own an Outlaw 950 Preamp/Processor
which is dated and does not have the latest sound/movie processing formats nor HDMI. It is in excellent condition and does a fine job with analog music
which I enjoy very much. However, since I will be upgrading and purchasing a new Plasma TV shortly (65" Panny VT30 or the Samsung 7000 or 8000) I am looking/need to upgrade my processor as well.


Shadmeister

Hi, I had the same dilemma as you : my preamp being the Sherwood P-965 (coupled to the A-965 power amp), so no HDMI nor decoding of the latest blu-ray audio formats (nor any room correction)
I believe the Sherwood is quite similar to your Outlaw 950.

I went for the Oppo 95, connected directly to my 65" Samy via hdmi and to the Sherwood via analog.

And I can tell you that I am very happy with this solution : movies and MCh audio sound really great, as well as stereo, though I still prefer to listen stereo from the Oppo 95 connected to my Luxman stereo pre and power amps. (for headphone listening the Luxman is better than the Sherwood as well)

If you're into SACD, you might want to check if the Marantz AV7005 accepts DSD through HDMI, if I recall well it doesn't.

Regards,

michdys
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post #6329 of 10431
10/20/11 at 4:56am
Since BluRays are the only media that comes in high resolution audio, it makes more sense to use the 95 for decoding and outputting to your receiver via analog and forget about buying a new prepro just for HDMI. You'd only be missing out on room correction but for many (me), I've not found it to help.

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post #6330 of 10431
10/20/11 at 5:07am
I got my 95 last night, so far after just a few minutes of setup it certainly sound and looks great. This player will definitely do the trick as an all for one player with a heavy emphasis on Audio quality.

I was surprised to see it only had one USB port, I will want to have it have wireless access all the time but I'd also like to have a usb hard drive hooked up to it all the time. I'm pretty sure a usb hub would work for multiple hard drive but would it work for the usb wireless dongle to?

Could I have a hard drive and a wireless dongle on a usb hub and the player recognize it correctly?
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