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post #6331 of 11026
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Originally Posted by swanlee View Post

I was surprised to see it only had one USB port

Are you sure about that?

-Bill
post #6332 of 11026
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Are you sure about that?

-Bill

It has an esata port and one usb port, I'd like to use the USB port for thumb drive or external USB hard drives and use the USB dongle at the same time.

Is there some hidden second USB port that I missed?
post #6333 of 11026
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Originally Posted by swanlee View Post


Is there some hidden second USB port that I missed?

Yes: front panel right, covered by a plastic tab.

-Bill
post #6334 of 11026
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Yes: front panel right, covered by a plastic tab.

-Bill

Ahh cool did not see that at all
post #6335 of 11026
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Yes: front panel right, covered by a plastic tab.

-Bill

almost as hidden as the 95's eject button
post #6336 of 11026
For those that use the 95 (analog) directly into power-amps, do you use "loudness control" for frequency compensation at low listening levels?

Is this always done in the amplifier/receiver stage or do some players actually offer loudness compensation. Do most modern AVRs have the loudness enabled by default?
post #6337 of 11026
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Originally Posted by michdys View Post

If you're into SACD, you might want to check if the Marantz AV7005 accepts DSD through HDMI, if I recall well it doesn't.

It does not but no matter.
post #6338 of 11026
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Originally Posted by neutron77 View Post

For those that use the 95 (analog) directly into power-amps, do you use "loudness control" for frequency compensation at low listening levels?

Is this always done in the amplifier/receiver stage or do some players actually offer loudness compensation. Do most modern AVRs have the loudness enabled by default?

Loudness Control would be altering the signal which is a no no for purists. I don't use my setup for low listening levels but at +5, it sounds fine to me. If you are concerned more with loudness levels, I would use the digital out to run through your AVR/Pre Amp to have it digitize the signal to your liking for low listening levels.

There is no EQ on the Oppo nor do we want one.
post #6339 of 11026
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Originally Posted by Bachelor View Post

Loudness Control would be altering the signal which is a no no for purists. I don't use my setup for low listening levels but at +5, it sounds fine to me. If you are concerned more with loudness levels, I would use the digital out to run through your AVR/Pre Amp to have it digitize the signal to your liking for low listening levels.

There is no EQ on the Oppo nor do we want one.

I agree about not wanting EQ on the OPPO. I am not really concerned myself but wanted to know if folks here use loudness compensation much and their views on it. Considering the speaker trim capability and how folks set up compensation for other things like room characteristics, if you listen at significantly different levels, isn't loudness compensation as significant?
post #6340 of 11026
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Since BluRays are the only media that comes in high resolution audio...

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?!?!
Even if you were only talking physical media that's wrong.
What about DVD-A's?
What about SA-CD's??
What about DAD's???

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Anyway, I agree w/if your buying & going analog out of a 95 you could get away w/the old pre/pro.
Just, you'll want too evaluate if a new pre/pro (w/all the new additional features) & a 93 would be better for you than the old pre/pro & the 95.

I think it really comes down too how in luv w/analog you are.
Especially two channel, w/the 95 having a separate DAC for stereo w/each output driven by four SABRE 32 Reference ES9018 from ESS Technology DAC channels stacked.
If that doesn't do it for you get a 93!
post #6341 of 11026
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Originally Posted by neutron77 View Post

For those that use the 95 (analog) directly into power-amps, do you use "loudness control" for frequency compensation at low listening levels?

Is this always done in the amplifier/receiver stage or do some players actually offer loudness compensation. Do most modern AVRs have the loudness enabled by default?

Its one of those things you forego when its analog throughput neutron. Loudness control is circa 1970's era tech when compared to the more advanced dsp modes that exist now like dolby volume and audyssey dynamic eq

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isn't loudness compensation as significant?

Certainly agree as fletcher/munson demonstrated our ears lack of sensitivity to lower frequencies I wouldnt turn the wick down much

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...ology-review/1

http://www.audyssey.com/audio-technology/dynamic-eq
post #6342 of 11026
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Originally Posted by baniels View Post

Good point. Make sure the Onkyo is set to Direct or Pure Audio. If it says Stereo, it is applying Audyssey and doing an A/D/A conversion.

How do I insure that Audessy is "off"?

I was listening to "sterep", but I will try the other suggestions as well.
post #6343 of 11026
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Originally Posted by cwt View Post

Its one of those things you forego when its analog throughput neutron. Loudness control is circa 1970's era tech when compared to the more advanced dsp modes that exist now like dolby volume and audyssey dynamic eq

Certainly agree as fletcher/munson demonstrated our ears lack of sensitivity to lower frequencies I wouldnt turn the wick down much

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...ology-review/1

http://www.audyssey.com/audio-technology/dynamic-eq

Thanks for the links. Interesting discussion in 2nd link under Hasn't Loudness Correction Been Around for Years?
I had been thinking more retro, along the lines of the Continuously Variable Loudness (analog) Control on my 1987 Yamaha AX-900U amplifier.
My (not quite audiophile quality) Pioneer VSX-9140TXH has a LOUDNESS setting (disabled by default). I assume this is a digital compensation (only ON/OFF) and not the same as the Audyssey dynamic-eq. So do audio-purists really go for that dynamic-eq? or just uses a nominally fixed high listening level and don't use any EQ?
post #6344 of 11026
Also, during the speaker set up in the menu for the 95, how doI activate the test tones so I can measure the level with my SPL? I have the setting to "on", but I cannot generate the tone to go on the speakers?
post #6345 of 11026
Hi "cp1966"

you have to stop all media plays and after that you hear the test tone by cycling all speaker per remote keys.

Regards, Ronald
post #6346 of 11026
A few days ago, my Denon 3800 blue ray player wouldn't load a disc, so it gave me an excuse to order an Oppo BDP 95. It arrived today. I am absolutely stunned and I haven't even played a blue ray disc yet! My system is in transition. My Earthqauke amp blew out a month ago, and I'm waiting on a new-build EAD Powermaster 8300 that is a few weeks from completion. In the meantime, I pulled an old Outlaw 770 out of the moth balls to power the Classe CT-SSP controller and my Martin Logan Odyssey towers, and ML surrounds. It has been ok for watching TV shows and a few movies, but the music has been unengaging. Way to bright for my ears. I play CDs through a Cambridge Azur 840c. I did a simple hook-up of the OPPO to the Classe with an audioquest vodka HDMI chord. I thought about moving the audioquest columbia XLR chords from the chambrdige cd player to the OPPO, but decided, nah, I'll just turn on some music and read the manual first. I popped in Chuck Loeb's Plan n Simple Cd and started reading. Oh My God. This thing sounds as good, if not better, than when my 300 wpc Earthqauke was rocking the house. The guitar and organ are jumping out of the speakers, crisp, clear and with such depth. I really can't believe what I am hearing. This is with all the Oppo settings on default! I may never change a thing. I have been music deprived so I'm going to pop in some more cds and then eventually get around to putting in a blue ray. If music is this good with the underpowered Outlaw, I can't even imagine what I will hear with the new Powermaster. And we haven't even got to the main event yet - movies!!! Thank you OPPO!
post #6347 of 11026
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Originally Posted by cp1966 View Post

I have had my BDP-95 for a week now, and while it is a very fine machine, for $1000 so far I am not that impressed. Maybe I am missing something so I am looking for some guidance.

My set up is as follows; Onkyo PR SC-886 pre-amp, Outlaw 7700 (200 WPC x 7 channels), Klipsch RF-7 mains (with the crossovers modded by Dean G), RC-7 Center (Dean G modded crosover), RS7 surrounds, CDT-5800 rear surrounds, and an Outlaw LFM-EX Subwoofer.

I have a 400 Sony CD Jukebox and a Denon DCD-1500 single disc CD player that I paid $600 for back in 1986.

I had run Audessy on the Onkyo, then turned it off and fine tuned it with a tape measure for distance and a Radio Shack SPL meter for volume for both the Onkyo and the Oppo.

I watched the new Blu Ray Pirates movie today, which has a DTS MA 7.1 soundtrack and it looked and sounded great on my Panasonic TC-P65S1 plasma (which is ISF calibrated). Bythe way, it is hooked up via HDMI.

I also have the 95 hooked up to the Onkyo with RCA cables for the Left and Right analogue setup using the "A.ux 1" input on the Onkyo.

Listening to "Mudcrutch" (Tom Petty) it sounded very good, but not "oh my god this $1,000 DVD/CD player sounds out of this world I cant believe it" good. The same with Dire Straits' Brothers in Arms.

Before I return the 95 and order a 93 ( I still want a very nice Blu Ray/Cd player for my system to supplement my PS3), I cant see spending $1000 on the 95 when I can get a 93 for $500 less.

Am I missing something somewhere? Its not like I have a $300 receiver with $300 speakers.

FLSHBACK to 1986; I bought a NAD pre-amp, Klipsch KG4 speakers and the Denon CD player and I could not believe my ears how good that system rocked and the detail in the sound. Added shortly after this was a Bang and Olufson turntable which I still have. To this day, I can throw "Thriller" on the B & O and folks cant believe how good it sounds.

PLEASE HELP with advice please!

Use the Analog outs of the 95 to the Onkyo- 886 Analog connections and set the Onkyo to Multichannel Direct and then you can use the Volume levels of the 95 and 886.You can also connect the front left and front right speaker Analog to the 95 stereo inputs and use the better Dacs for 2 ,5 and 7 CH sound and be sure you change in the Audio section of the 95 to Front Left and Front Right as that will make sure you are using the stereo out puts.This sounds fantastic with my Onkyo 3008 and Oppo-95 in Music and Movie modes.
post #6348 of 11026
I'm still tyring to figure out how this sounds better than my Cabridge Azur 840c. In my system, the only thing I can think is that the digital signal through the HDMI chord is doing much more in the Classe controller and my ML speakers, than the analog signal I was getting through the balanced outputs in the Cambridge. I sunk $1800 into the Cambridge, which reviewers said delivered the sound quality of players 3 and 4 times its price. If it is an option, maybe try listening to music through the HDMI output of the Oppo?
post #6349 of 11026
Ok, slap me I'm lazy. What is everybody using for a cheap navigation monitor, hooked to composite? and can you see it from across the room?...
post #6350 of 11026
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post #6351 of 11026
I just did some tests of .flac VS disc same material and i much prefer the disc SQ to the .flac files from a usb thumb drive. The .flac files did not sound bad but the playing back from disc just sounded better overall, better bass, better imaging, better highs.

I tested 16 bit 14.4 .flac VS cd and 24 bit 96K .flac VS audio authored on a dvd that was 24 bit 96K of the same material.

Looks like I'm going to stick with disc based audio playback, kind of a bummer but I'm going to use the best sounding option possible and the .flac files were pretty much outclassed by disc playback in ever way shape or form.

The discs were taken from the exact files that i used on the USB drive so something is different and or better with disc playback independent of the material used.
post #6352 of 11026
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Haier HLT71 7" LCD TV as a Compact Video Monitor

Thanks Neuro. Don't know if could read that from 10 ft. away but it's pretty nifty.
post #6353 of 11026
Swanlee, What program did you use to rip the FLAC tracks with ?
Just wondering did you use EAC or Easy CD-DA or maybe some other program.
A very strict setup code has to be adhered to with EAC to get the perfect rip,
including offset etc, but a lot of people (including me) will swear blindly they can hear a difference.
I really want this FLAC thing to work, so I told myself it was the placebo effect ;-)
post #6354 of 11026
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Originally Posted by Squad 701 View Post

Swanlee, What program did you use to rip the FLAC tracks with ?
Just wondering did you use EAC or Easy CD-DA or maybe some other program.
A very strict setup code has to be adhered to with EAC to get the perfect rip,
including offset etc, but a lot of people (including me) will swear blindly they can hear a difference.
I really want this FLAC thing to work, so I told myself it was the placebo effect ;-)


The flac thing works and they sound fine it's just compared when playing from discs with the exact same files it sounds better with discs.

My library is comprised of wma lossless audio that was ripped using EAC. Or for the 24bit files most of them I bought through HDTRACKS. I took the wma lossless files converted them to compression 8 .flacs put them on a thumb drive and played them.

I took the same wma lossless files and burned them to a cd-rw for 16 bit wma files and used a dvd audio creator program for the 24 bit wma lossless files to create a 24 bit 96k DVD audio disc.

This eliminates any rip issues since the files were taken from the same rip or the same files.

Regardless of file type 24bit VS 16 bit the same type of differences held true in disc VS .flac. The flacs were more muted, less dynamic worse stereo separation compared directly to the disc versions.

I chose material i was very familiar with and in only took me a few mins to figure out the .flac files just did not sound as good.

But if .flac is your only real option they certainly did not sound bad by any means.
post #6355 of 11026
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Originally Posted by mfrizzzz View Post

I did a simple hook-up of the OPPO to the Classe with an audioquest vodka HDMI chord.

Just wait, you've only heard the Oppo 93 stuff, not what you paid an extra $500 for.

The analogue outs (which use the Sabre DACs) > HDMI (which does not use the Sabre DACs)...enjoy!
post #6356 of 11026
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Originally Posted by mfrizzzz View Post

I'm still tyring to figure out how this sounds better than my Cabridge Azur 840c. In my system, the only thing I can think is that the digital signal through the HDMI chord is doing much more in the Classe controller and my ML speakers, than the analog signal I was getting through the balanced outputs in the Cambridge. I sunk $1800 into the Cambridge, which reviewers said delivered the sound quality of players 3 and 4 times its price. If it is an option, maybe try listening to music through the HDMI output of the Oppo?

If you intend to use the HDMI out, send the 95 back and get the 93.
post #6357 of 11026
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Originally Posted by swanlee View Post

The flac thing works and they sound fine it's just compared when playing from discs with the exact same files it sounds better with discs.

Regardless of file type 24bit VS 16 bit the same type of differences held true in disc VS .flac. The flacs were more muted, less dynamic worse stereo separation compared directly to the disc versions.

I chose material i was very familiar with and in only took me a few mins to figure out the .flac files just did not sound as good.

But if .flac is your only real option they certainly did not sound bad by any means.

My experience does not match above. I use DVD-A Ripper and CD Ripper to rip my discs to .flac, and AQ results to my ears were/are at least equal to the disc playback and you get the added convienience of not having to find, handle, or refile the disc. The only discs I play now are blu-ray/SACD.

Make sure you level match outputs...but even then it's challenging to A/B the two due to the time it takes to navigate/swap sources/match levels.
post #6358 of 11026
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Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post

My experience does not match above. I use DVD-A Ripper and CD Ripper to rip my discs to .flac, and AQ results to my ears were/are at least equal to the disc playback and you get the added convienience of not having to find, handle, or refile the disc. The only discs I play now are blu-ray/SACD.

Make sure you level match outputs...but even then it's challenging to A/B the two due to the time it takes to navigate/swap sources/match levels.

I was using the same output for both the discs and .flac files, the levels sounded pretty equal and I did my tests how I would normally listen to the music and the discs just sounded better to me.

The only delay was me navigating from disc to the .flac files on the oppo itself everything else was the same output to my processor which used the same settings for the files and the discs.

Like I said it's not the the .flacs sounded bad but the discs sounded better overall. The tests were about as equal as I'm going to be able to get them. Slightly bummed by it but I do like the way the discs sound quite a bit so I'll be happy to just stick with them.
post #6359 of 11026
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Originally Posted by RoNNy379CH View Post

Hi "cp1966"

you have to stop all media plays and after that you hear the test tone by cycling all speaker per remote keys.

Regards, Ronald


Sorry, but no comprende'
post #6360 of 11026
I have been pleased with the sq of .flac through the USB port and found it to be better sq than the files on disk, but that may be the way I ripped the disks. The .flacs from HDtracks definately sound better than the original CDs, as expected.

On a separate note, I have been using Kimber Cable PBJ balanced xlr cables into my Anthem AVM 30 and have noticed on a few occasions a hissing sound for a few seconds and some harshness compared to the analog outs. Is that a problem with the my balanced cables or is it something I am doing? Or is it just my ears?
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