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post #6421 of 10421
10/24/11 at 6:34pm
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Originally Posted by pwong888 View Post

Plan to buy the 95 next week but want to know the sound quality betwween 7.1 analog out vs hdmi out (for movie)? Any suggest on which rca interconnect should I use for 7.1 analog out to my av receiver?

Not enough info. When you use HDMI audio the sound is actually being produced by your AVR. That's where the digital audio is being converted to Analog. So the question is, does your AVR produce sound as good or better than the Analog outputs of the 95?

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On interconnects, you can spend a ton of money on exotic cabling. I'm a skeptic (to say the least) when it comes to the claims of equally exotic performance from such cables. I think you should get a decent quality set of shielded interconnect cables from a reputable company like Monoprice or Blue Jeans Cable (both AVS Forum sponsors). Then AUDITION any more expensive cable you might find interesting.

If you can't hear an improvement, send the more expensive stuff back.

Note that listener bias is a big factor in such stuff. Simply put, buyers WANT more expensive cables to sound better. So get a friend to swap the cables for you without letting you know which ones you are listening to.
--Bob
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post #6422 of 10421
10/24/11 at 10:27pm
So, everyone happy with their BDP-95 unit's?
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post #6423 of 10421
10/25/11 at 12:37am
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Originally Posted by WestCoastD View Post

So, everyone happy with their BDP-95 unit's?

Best purchase in the last 10 years How about you? Did the comparison against the Sony go well?
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post #6424 of 10421
10/25/11 at 1:30am
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Originally Posted by newStevea View Post

While my pre-amp & player are warming up I thought I'd post some further thoughts on my impressions of my '95(& a few other things). First off, I don't know if there really is such a thing as getting much of the 2ch "wow" factor if you treat the '95 (or maybe any CD/digital player) as a "plug & play" solution to achieving that "wow" status ! What may be upsteam (your power) & downsteam of a player matters quite a bit if you are expecting the superior results reported upon. The "noise floor" has to be low enough before & after the player for you to be able to hear the difference those nice chips & circuit design makes. A few years ago I auditioned a Cambridge Audio 840c CD player I was'nt that impressed. It did'nt sound any better than Cambridge 640c I was using. I think the difference may have been I was running my player through my PS Audio P700 power plant & I can't remember what they were running the 840c through. I ended up getting a Consonance player that had a very nice detailed "Analog" sound to it. I was a bit worried that CDs were'nt going to sound as good through my '95. I need'nt have been ! I've been so impressed with my CD playback that I revised my thoughts on a few of the Classical CD labels(for the better,most of the time)to "I was wrong on the level of their engineering quality". A few other points before I start my listening session. I've always felt it's not a good idea to leave discs in a player when you are done listenning(particullarly if you turn the player off when you are done for the day). No mechanical mechanism likes to be " jump started" from a cold state. This "ages" the player even more than turning it off & on. While we're talking about turning the player off & on. I've always liked to leave my players on. For some reason "digital" takes some time before it starts sounding "less digital"(warmer more extended etc.) Oh one other thing I am using the XLR balanced outputs with Cardas balanced to single ended adapters to my Kimber single ended(RCA) interconnects. I am getting a good bit of "wow" factor !

+1, Iv'e been waiting since March to see what powercord and balanced interconnects would mate well with the 95 . I used single end Audioquest Columbia's 48v dbs on FL/FR with fantastic results, along with a Psaudio perfectwave AC3 powercord 12awg. My earlier post reflected my enthusiasm of the previous setup This prompted me to take it up a level to a 72v dbs xlr Columbia and a Perfectwave Ac5 10awg. The results at about 100 hrs or so are favorable for the new setup ,most surprising is how silent an already silent system can be Separation of instruments and the greater since of space yield notes that linger well beyond what they did before! Mids have more attack , bass has increased in pitch definition and tactile sensation best of all still got air. I for one am glad to be able to discern changes in SQ, this in turn has helped me reach my desired goals for my rig and listening habits. I was close to buying a turntable for better sound but the 95 has for me, bougth my cd's to point of maturity. Sacd's ,flac,hi res downloads and Dvd audio are staggering in sheer musicalty. Get your foundation right (Acoustics and Clean Power) and hear why I'm nuts over the 95 with a modest rig

Set up for clean Power!


10 awg Ac10 to Psaudio Quintet on a 12awg 20amp dedicated line Power port premier receptical.( sources preamp( Hi-Fi Sliverstar fuses) and tv ,95,Hd dvr, 200x3 amp and Mx150 M&k sub. All powercords Ac3' and one Ac5 for these.

Ps audio Soloist Premier Se ( in wall line conditioner) on a 10awg 20amp dedicated line with an Prefectwave AC12 8awg powercord to my Halo A21 amp (Silverstar fuses as well) all o

Result Priceless
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post #6425 of 10421
10/25/11 at 3:23am
I've had my 95 for quite awhile now with no major issues, but I'm making a change in my setup and have a connection/setup question.

I'm currently using 5.1 analog out into a Lexicon MC-12v4 for multi-channel, and also have the dedicated 2 channel RCA out into a separate RCA input which I have configured as "2 Channel Bypass" so that I have no signal processing in the path. The FR/FL signal is passed to Emotiva XPA-1's via RCA.

I have purchased and will soon install a separate 2 channel preamp which I will use for dedicated 2 channel listening in the same system. It does have HT bypass capabilities. This will also allow me to hook up a Turntable so I can get back into vinyl for the first time in about 15 years (been digging my records out of storage).

How do I hook it up? I thought I had it figured out so that I could keep the Lex from processing the signal, but I'm starting to confuse myself.

If I connect the separate 2 channel RCA outs from the 95 to the new preamp's CD inputs, and the front 2 channels of the 5.1 RCA output from the Lex into the HT bypass, I should be good to go, right? There isn't anything else I need to change in the settings?
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post #6426 of 10421
10/25/11 at 5:11am
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Originally Posted by John Schneider View Post

If I connect the separate 2 channel RCA outs from the 95 to the new preamp's CD inputs, and the front 2 channels of the 5.1 RCA output from the Lex into the HT bypass, I should be good to go, right? There isn't anything else I need to change in the settings?

Yes, that's the correct way to hook it up.
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post #6427 of 10421
10/25/11 at 7:39am
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Less common is the user error of putting two discs in the tray. Ahem. That too happens.
--Bob

Greetings all, here's my first post. I've had an Oppo 95-EU (from audiocom International) since May. Just to vouch that the above can happen and indeed HAS happened to me. Early on in my "getting-to-know-you" phase, I excitedly put The Godfather 2 in. As the tray shut, there was a wierd, rough, spinning sort of sound. It's the quickest I've ever had to use the eject knob. The culprit turned out to be Godfather 1 tucked underneath the disc. I'd left it in from the night before. I blame a copious supply of excellent red wine for this mistake. Needless to say, it's not something I intend to put the unit through again in the near future - in fact, ever. The 95 was very forgiving, all things considered, and everything has gone on normal since.
Now if I can only stop dropping that remote every two weeks...
The rest of my set-up: A pair of Mackie HR-824's for L/R and a pair of KRK Rokit 8s as surrounds.
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post #6428 of 10421
10/25/11 at 10:18am
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Originally Posted by neutron77 View Post

I suspect very very few will ever notice any difference between using the XLR balanced outputs and the dedicated stereo-outs. Balanced outputs are intended to cancel out (with a differential amp input) common-mode (CM) noise on the hot-cold (go/return) lines. XLR is useful for long cable runs and with low signal levels (e.g. a few mV, for example from mics). For typical cable runs (say 10' or less) in home audio, the residual CM noise will be extremely small (relative to the 2Vrms line-level) so using RCA unbalanced outputs will be essentially identical to XLR wrt noise performance.

So this means that if your pres/amps DON'T have XLR inputs, you can just use the XLR 95 outputs with a simple XLR-to-unbalanced RCA adapter cable (or easily wire your own) to have another superb high-quality analog stereo output with essentially identical performance to the 95 dedicated stereo RCA outs.

Duh!
If you read your post I was quoting you'll notice you didn't say anything about analog out of the Oppo; balanced or unbalanced.
You did post balanced out of the Cabridge Azur 840c. So, of coarse I'm going too ask why not the balanced out of the Oppo.
I wasn't stating XLR is superior too RCA.
I was asking why your only using (according too your post) HDMI out of the Oppo.
No need too lecture me on balanced vs. unbalanced.
By the way, the Classe controller is doing much more too the Oppo HDMI signal than the Azur balanced signal.

Enjoy!
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post #6429 of 10421
10/25/11 at 10:25am
On another thread a poster posted the Oppo ModWright Tubed Mod w/the PS 9.0 are both very sensitive too power cords.
For those that don't have a mod'ED unit & therefore don't care; you still may want too check out swapping power cords on the 95.
I just went from the stock Oppo too a used (cheap) Shunyata DiamondBack w/pleasing results.
YMMV!!!
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post #6430 of 10421
10/25/11 at 10:36am
That's not a Fan!!!
That's a Whirlwind!!!

If the Oppo techs can't hear the fan "noise" (not the fan its self/just the air it pushes out of the unit) from more than a foot away, they shouldn't be in audio.
I can hear the roar from five ft.
[yes, w/movies/music playing its obviously less obtrusive]
I'll work on some way too dissipate the windtunnel effect.
Just don't tell me its not an issue from more that 12 inches!
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post #6431 of 10421
10/25/11 at 10:44am
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Originally Posted by BIG ED View Post

Duh!
If you read your post I was quoting you'll notice you didn't say anything about analog out of the Oppo; balanced or unbalanced.
You did post balanced out of the Cabridge Azur 840c.
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No need too lecture me on balanced vs. unbalanced.
By the way, the Classe controller is doing much more too the Oppo HDMI signal than the Azur balanced signal.

Enjoy!

I didn't post anything on the Cambridge (you are referring to user mfrizzzz).
I simply provided my perspective on your response to mfrizzz
" Your not using the balanced outs of the Oppo?!?! "
I'm sure that, based on the quality of your posts here, no one here would dare attempt to lecture BIG ED
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post #6432 of 10421
10/25/11 at 10:54am
For those interested in the possibility of WAV channel switching, I have added a paragraph explaining how this works at the bottom of this page. OPPO have indicated that they would ask the engineers if this functionality is possible.
Related to the above, here is a simple C# utility (for Win users) which takes any MC PCM wav file, displays all header info and where the channeMask is "steering" the channels, and allows you to change the channelMask in the WAV file RiffMask.
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post #6433 of 10421
10/25/11 at 12:02pm
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Originally Posted by BIG ED View Post

That's not a Fan!!!
That's a Whirlwind!!!

If the Oppo techs can't hear the fan "noise" (not the fan its self/just the air it pushes out of the unit) from more than a foot away, they shouldn't be in audio.
I can hear the roar from five ft.
[yes, w/movies/music playing its obviously less obtrusive]
I'll work on some way too dissipate the windtunnel effect.
Just don't tell me its not an issue from more that 12 inches!

Here is a tip I got off of the EVS website that I've found to be invaluable & dead on correct . The reason the fan constantly comes on is because the "Analog board" is double deckered right above the video processor board . As a result of this "high rise" board archetecture inside the player the heat builds up. As is it is necessary to use an intake fan to prevent the player from overheating & shutting down. There is a simple work around this heat buildup problem but (there's always a "but" somewhere it seems) it involves "a leap of faith", "thinking a bit outside the box" attitude to remedy this heat build up problem. The simple solution(& this is where the "LoF" comes in) is to run the player without the case cover on the player. I have a piece of tinted glass that I've placed on 4 Herbies Tenderfoots on the top edge of the "coverless" player. The fan does not come on anymore & there is the added advantage the player has less vibration to deal with. I honestly believe the player sounds significantly better without the fan kicking in . Silent passages in music now are just that. I have been listening to a RCO live CD, from the 6th Anthology box set, of a live performance of the Mahler 5th Symphony that is simply stunning. CDs don't sound this good !! (or so I believed, the wow factor is definitely in play here)
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post #6434 of 10421
10/25/11 at 2:08pm
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Originally Posted by newStevea View Post

Here is a tip I got off of the EVS website that I've found to be invaluable & dead on correct . The reason the fan constantly comes on is because the "Analog board" is double deckered right above the video processor board . As a result of this "high rise" board archetecture inside the player the heat builds up. As is it is necessary to use an intake fan to prevent the player from overheating & shutting down. There is a simple work around this heat buildup problem but (there's always a "but" somewhere it seems) it involves "a leap of faith", "thinking a bit outside the box" attitude to remedy this heat build up problem. The simple solution(& this is where the "LoF" comes in) is to run the player without the case cover on the player. I have a piece of tinted glass that I've placed on 4 Herbies Tenderfoots on the top edge of the "coverless" player. The fan does not come on anymore & there is the added advantage the player has less vibration to deal with. I honestly believe the player sounds significantly better without the fan kicking in . Silent passages in music now are just that. I have been listening to a RCO live CD, from the 6th Anthology box set, of a live performance of the Mahler 5th Symphony that is simply stunning. CDs don't sound this good !! (or so I believed, the wow factor is definitely in play here)

Maybe it helps in your case, but now your no longer a EMI shielded player, dust gets inside, maybe to the optics. Really if your so worried about fan noise, put the player in a decent rack that attenuates the fan noise.
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post #6435 of 10421
10/25/11 at 2:42pm
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

Best purchase in the last 10 years How about you? Did the comparison against the Sony go well?

that's good to hear. Yeah I'm still (believe it or not) waiting to hook-up my 6-month-old (brand-new-in-box) BDP-95. Moving into a house, so I waited on setting-up everything. I will report back though soon.........
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post #6436 of 10421
10/25/11 at 2:46pm
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Originally Posted by Derek Daly View Post

It's the quickest

did you once drive for the Williams Formula-1 team? Also Indy 500?
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post #6437 of 10421
10/25/11 at 3:10pm
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Originally Posted by newStevea View Post

Here is a tip I got off of the EVS website that I've found to be invaluable & dead on correct . The reason the fan constantly comes on is because the "Analog board" is double deckered right above the video processor board . As a result of this "high rise" board archetecture inside the player the heat builds up. As is it is necessary to use an intake fan to prevent the player from overheating & shutting down. There is a simple work around this heat buildup problem but (there's always a "but" somewhere it seems) it involves "a leap of faith", "thinking a bit outside the box" attitude to remedy this heat build up problem. The simple solution(& this is where the "LoF" comes in) is to run the player without the case cover on the player. I have a piece of tinted glass that I've placed on 4 Herbies Tenderfoots on the top edge of the "coverless" player. The fan does not come on anymore & there is the added advantage the player has less vibration to deal with. I honestly believe the player sounds significantly better without the fan kicking in . Silent passages in music now are just that. I have been listening to a RCO live CD, from the 6th Anthology box set, of a live performance of the Mahler 5th Symphony that is simply stunning. CDs don't sound this good !! (or so I believed, the wow factor is definitely in play here)

I just bought one and I'll have it tomorrow. Is the fan noise really that bad?
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post #6438 of 10421
10/25/11 at 3:19pm
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Originally Posted by hikinokie View Post


I just bought one and I'll have it tomorrow. Is the fan noise really that bad?

No.
--Bob
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post #6439 of 10421
10/25/11 at 3:36pm
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Originally Posted by hikinokie View Post

I just bought one and I'll have it tomorrow. Is the fan noise really that bad?

The fan noise doesn't seem to be an issue for (I gather) almost all BDP-95 owners. Rehashing a previous post on this (with my own experience) :
my fan noise experience. Not a problem for me.
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post #6440 of 10421
10/25/11 at 5:38pm
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Originally Posted by JohnAV View Post

Maybe it helps in your case, but now your no longer a EMI shielded player, dust gets inside, maybe to the optics. Really if your so worried about fan noise, put the player in a decent rack that attenuates the fan noise.

I have'nt noticed any EMI interference (I will admit to not being that well versed in EMI, but the only connections I have to the player are the powercord which is connected to my PS Audio P700 power plant/ac regenerator & balanced output interconnections to my tubed headphone amp/preamp which is also plugged into my P700 power plant. All other rca connectors on the player have remained covered.) The player is'nt really uncovered, as I mentioned I have piece of tinted glass that is covering the top of the player & I am running an Ionic Pro air de-ionizer in close proximity to the rack on which my player resides. I was'nt really that bothered by the "physical" noise I was more bothered by the "circuit noise" that was being introduced by the fan motor. Just like the Video portion of the player "I" don't really don't need it (except to access set-up menus, then the video connection is disconnected once again.)(My other Bluray player is my Bluray player). You can "attentuate" the noise of the fan all you want but that slight circuit "noise" will hinder getting the every bit of "micro" detail out of your music
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post #6441 of 10421
10/25/11 at 6:31pm
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Originally Posted by newStevea View Post

... You can "attentuate" the noise of the fan all you want but that slight circuit "noise" will hinder getting the every bit of "micro" detail out of your music

Are you saying this is something that you can actually hear yourself (residual noise introduced in the 95 circuit somewhere due to fan) or are you speculating that it *might* introduce noise above the S/N noise specs of the 95?
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post #6442 of 10421
10/25/11 at 6:33pm
The almost completely silent fan needs no work around.
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post #6443 of 10421
10/25/11 at 7:33pm
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Actually without room corrections, good speakers aren't so good.

I disagree, with proper placement good speakers can usually yield excellent sound, better than processing.
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post #6444 of 10421
10/25/11 at 8:05pm
A quick question for those in the know........ I currently have an 83SE. I may be looking to upgrade to a 95 in the near future and am curious as to whether they improved speaker management abilities in this player, specifically, distance settings. With the 83SE, you were limited to how much distance you could set the surrounds based upon how far away the fronts were positioned. Ie; in my unique case, my surrounds are about 40% further away than the fronts yet I can't adjust the surrounds much past the distance setting for the fronts. It's a big room and we sit fairly close to the display. Did they by chance rectify this and give more room for adjustment differences I just mentioned? On movies it's no big deal but on blu-ray concert vids and SACD, the lag can sometimes be a hinderance to sonic perfection.
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post #6445 of 10421
10/25/11 at 8:19pm
Yes, and note that this only applies to the multi-channel Analog outputs. Distance adjustment for the Digital outputs is done in your AVR.

In the previous player, for the Analog outputs no speaker could be further away than the LF/RF pair. This restriction is eliminated in the 93 and 95.
--Bob
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post #6446 of 10421
10/25/11 at 8:20pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Yes, and note that this only applies to the multi-channel Analog outputs. Distance adjustment for the Digital outputs is done in your AVR.

In the previous player, for the Analog outputs no speaker could be further away than the LF/RF pair. This restriction is eliminated in the 93 and 95.
--Bob

Excellent! Thanks!
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post #6447 of 10421
10/25/11 at 9:31pm
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Originally Posted by neutron77 View Post

I didn't post anything on the Cambridge (you are referring to user mfrizzzz).
I simply provided my perspective on your response to mfrizzz
" Your not using the balanced outs of the Oppo?!?! "
I'm sure that, based on the quality of your posts here, no one here would dare attempt to lecture BIG ED

You'd just drop a bomb!
The NEUTRON bomb, no less.

Always GREAT getting info from you...
whether I ask for it or not!!!

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For the others posting on power cords:
Switched out the Shunyata DiamondBack
w/the
Cullen Cable Gold Series Power Cable
Overall warm; sparkling topend w/rich bass & GREAT timbre (YMMV).
Same price new as I got the used DiamondBack.
IMO the DiamondBack is good on an analog unit: light & airy/digital units need richer tuning/again, IMO.

EDitEDbyED:
The Cullen is THICK, THICK, THICK!!!
Not for every set up. Not a cable too be twist & turned.
The heavy wire w/additional shielding may add too its warm signature (IMO).
While the Shunyata is a super light cable.
Which may add too its signature sound (IMO).
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post #6448 of 10421
10/25/11 at 9:57pm
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Originally Posted by dibbledo View Post

I am using a Parasound P7 and I am very happy with it. It has a pair of balanced inputs which you can use with the 95 and has 2 sets of multichannel (7.1) inputs plus 7 sets of legacy stereo inputs, including a stunning phono pre-amp that will definitely put you in heaven. If, however, you require HDMI in/out you will need a separate selector unit for that.

The above may be a bit off topic but the BDP-95 and P7 are a natural fit.

I think the Onkyo pre/pros w/balanced inputs (of coarse ) are the "Natural Fit"!
Shoot, they both start w/O
&
are GREAT values!!!

Although I all so have Parasound Halo's in my system.
A little dry & not a ton of depth; yet the damping power's kung fu grip keeps the Magenpans too preforming w/o flapping in the wind.

The 95 tho is one of the audio worlds products that you can't over spend on the pre/amp or rec till you get too esoteric price ranges.
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post #6449 of 10421
10/26/11 at 3:50am
Besides HDtracks who else has high res music for the 95?
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post #6450 of 10421
10/26/11 at 5:41am
This list is a good start.

http://www.head-fi.org/a/high-res-music-download-sites
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