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post #7621 of 10426
"I personally will not let it ON over night or more than necessary for normal use. Is no any good reason for this!
Keep in mind that warm device degrade its parameters" - Cori
+++1
However, i have left my 95- On over night many of times {mostly my wife forgetting ;^)}
over the long run yes.. I have alot of hours ++ on my 95-- with no issues.- so far-
I use MCA alot, as well as the D2ch...

db
Oppo Beta Tester #9
post #7622 of 10426
I had a chance to spend some time with the Cambridge 751BD yesterday. We used it only for Music. (I had some 192K HD Tracks we played via a thumb drive on the front USB port) The Cambridge uses the Wolfson DAC's. Any perspective here on how the Oppo 95 compares with it? Seems like they are pretty much head to head competitors.
post #7623 of 10426
http://www.amazon.com/Oppo-BDP-95-Blu-Ray-Player/dp/B004UVJCPO/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329327993&sr=1-2

I'm kinda nervous about buying an expensive blu ray player, but I was wondering if this was a good price & worth it?

Thanks!
post #7624 of 10426
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Originally Posted by alec32 View Post

http://www.amazon.com/Oppo-BDP-95-Blu-Ray-Player/dp/B004UVJCPO/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329327993&sr=1-2

I'm kinda nervous about buying an expensive blu ray player, but I was wondering if this was a good price & worth it?

Thanks!

Uh, no. List price on the Oppo BDP-95 is $999.00. See the Oppo Digital web site. You can purchase direct from Oppo for example.

Perhaps this is a player that has been "modified". Perhaps the extra high price is just profit to the seller.
--Bob
post #7625 of 10426
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Originally Posted by DAB View Post

"I personally will not let it ON over night or more than necessary for normal use. Is no any good reason for this!
Keep in mind that warm device degrade its parameters" - Cori
+++1
However, i have left my 95- On over night many of times {mostly my wife forgetting ;^)}
over the long run yes.. I have alot of hours ++ on my 95-- with no issues.- so far-
I use MCA alot, as well as the D2ch...

db
Oppo Beta Tester #9

I well agree that many times one can forget it ON, or do not care specially about its player. This it just happens...
I do think that when one turn never OFF an device, convinced that so is the right way to do it, or have to be done like this, thinking that that device will act better later on, then is another story... Isn`t it?
On this subject is not about issues, but was a question if it have to be done like this for have a better function player... ("I'm wondering if/how much, powering down the 95 effects it's analog output. I have always been one to leave my digital components on all the time to keep them warmed up." Originally Posted by JohnBal)
post #7626 of 10426
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Originally Posted by alec32 View Post

http://www.amazon.com/Oppo-BDP-95-Blu-Ray-Player/dp/B004UVJCPO/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329327993&sr=1-2

I'm kinda nervous about buying an expensive blu ray player, but I was wondering if this was a good price & worth it?

Thanks!

If you want one, save money and buy it direct:

http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-95/

- Rich
post #7627 of 10426
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Uh, no. List price on the Oppo BDP-95 is $999.00. See the Oppo Digital web site. You can purchase direct from Oppo for example.

Perhaps this is a player that has been "modified". Perhaps the extra high price is just profit to the seller.
--Bob

I`ve noticed that the price for the EU model is a little bit higher than for the US model. I`m not very sure why is like this. The EU model can play mp3, the US model not. Maybe that because...?
If one buy direct from Oppo ($999) and live in EU region, is not a very smart idea... If one will buy directly from Oppo (EU dept/UK), then the price is around $1100 (as I know....). If one want free regions BD/DVD, then is 100$ more... One almost have to have this basic mod... An extended modified model of Oppo is much more expensive. Almost double...
I personally paid approx $1200 included all regions BD/DVD and had to wait for it 4 weeks... Amazon can send it more quickly I suppose... So it depends... But this is a quite normal price for this player (EU model).
post #7628 of 10426
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Originally Posted by Coris View Post

I`ve noticed that the price for the EU model is a little bit higher than for the US model. I`m not very sure why is like this. The EU model can play mp3, the US model not. Maybe that because...?
If one buy direct from Oppo ($999) and live in EU region, is not a very smart idea... If one will buy directly from Oppo (EU dept/UK), then the price is around $1100 (as I know....). If one want free regions BD/DVD, then is 100$ more... One almost have to have this basic mod... An extended modified model of Oppo is much more expensive. Almost double...
I personally paid approx $1200 included all regions BD/DVD and had to wait for it 4 weeks... Amazon can send it more quickly I suppose... So it depends... But this is a quite normal price for this player (EU model).

All indications are that the player in the Amazon link is the US model and doesn't have a region free mod (I would think it would be mentioned in the description if it had the mod). Assuming it's a US model and doesn't have a region free mod, the price is a rip-off. Even if it has a region free mod installed, they're still charging a substantial premium to install it.

The EU player is sold by a separate entity and includes a longer warranty than the US model. There are lots of factors in why products cost more or less in different countries, including import duties, exchange rates, how the distribution channel is setup, etc.
post #7629 of 10426
^ And the US versions of the 93 and the 95 have always had MP3 support. It was just delayed in the EU versions.
--Bob
post #7630 of 10426
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Originally Posted by alec32 View Post

http://www.amazon.com/Oppo-BDP-95-Blu-Ray-Player/dp/B004UVJCPO/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329327993&sr=1-2

I'm kinda nervous about buying an expensive blu ray player, but I was wondering if this was a good price & worth it?

Thanks!

If you are primarily looking for a Blu-ray player, the 93 is exactly the same as the 95 for video and it's $500 cheaper. If you have a high end room, high end ears, and high end equipment along with a primary interest in music, get the 95 for it's outstanding analog audio output.
post #7631 of 10426
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

If you are primarily looking for a Blu-ray player, the 93 is exactly the same as the 95 for video and it's $500 cheaper. If you have a high end room, high end ears, and high end equipment along with a primary interest in music, get the 95 for it's outstanding analog audio output.

Agreed. Well said!

Mike
post #7632 of 10426
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Originally Posted by alec32 View Post

http://www.amazon.com/Oppo-BDP-95-Blu-Ray-Player/dp/B004UVJCPO/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329327993&sr=1-2

I'm kinda nervous about buying an expensive blu ray player, but I was wondering if this was a good price & worth it?

Thanks!

Normal price is $999 from Oppo and its re-sellers. But this player has an internal 250GB hard drive which explains its $300 price increase from the nominal. I think (and hope) the hard drive has been well tested with the player so they play along well. But the size of the hard drive is small, imo, for the price increase.
post #7633 of 10426
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

Normal price is $999 from Oppo and its re-sellers. But this player has an internal 250GB hard drive which explains its $300 price increase from the nominal. I think (and hope) the hard drive has been well tested with the player so they play along well. But the size of the hard drive is small, imo, for the price increase.

I also think 250GB is too small to be very useful. Right now I have three drives that are 2T each for direct connect storage. I'm not using all that space but it can also expand at any time. If this internal drive is intended to expand internal memory, it wouldn't provide me with any real benefit.
post #7634 of 10426
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

Normal price is $999 from Oppo and its re-sellers. But this player has an internal 250GB hard drive which explains its $300 price increase from the nominal. I think (and hope) the hard drive has been well tested with the player so they play along well. But the size of the hard drive is small, imo, for the price increase.

Just curious where you found in the specification of an BDP95 model that is about an internal hard drive inside?
Anyway, 300$ price increase for an hard disk which it cost as usually few tens of $ today??? Don`t you think is a little hazardous your explanation/supposition?
post #7635 of 10426
Does anyone know if the HDMI or composite signal can be streamed via wifi? Is there a device that I can connect to the BDP-95 video out and stream the video signal wirelessly to a wifi notebook or tablet? I only need to see the Oppo's menus, don't need to watch video or listen to audio, that way I could navigate the menu using the remote while I see it on the notebook's screen without using a TV.
I know there are transmitter/receiver kits, but I am looking for something where the transmitter is connected to the Oppo and the notebook's wifi acts as receiver without the need of having a device attached. So it would be Oppo>Wifi Transmitter>macbook pro.
Thank you.
post #7636 of 10426
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Originally Posted by Coris View Post

Just curious where you found in the specification of an BDP95 model that is about an internal hard drive inside?
Anyway, 300$ price increase for an hard disk which it cost as usually few tens of $ today??? Don`t you think is a little hazardous your explanation/supposition?

If you read the linked Amazon page carefully, you'll see the reference to the hard drive (which I'm sure is a factual error). And I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic about the benefits of the drive.
post #7637 of 10426
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

if you read the linked amazon page carefully, you'll see the reference to the hard drive (which i'm sure is a factual error). And i'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic about the benefits of the drive.

ok!
post #7638 of 10426
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Originally Posted by JohnBal View Post

About the fan noise, I do notice it sometimes. I sit approx. 8ft from the front of the player and it kicks on and off apparently when necessary. The player sits in a well ventilated, open style rack with nothing stacked on top and almost 4 inches of clearance on top of the player to the next shelf. So it has plenty of breathing room. Even when it's on though (which is not all the time), I only notice it between tracks or during very quiet passages.

The problem I have with a fan that makes noise in an audio component is that I AM "hearing" it when music is playing. The quotation marks are there because, while I may not NOTICE (hear) the fan *per se*, it IS affecting the noise floor of the system - and thus the overall enjoyment. It's easy to check this out for yourself. In my case, this is what happens (as an example of this kind of thing): I have a buzzer on my stove in the kitchen, which I can set to time things when cooking. Sometimes while I am listening to music in an adjoining room, I will notice - after several minutes (or as long as a half hour if I'm very engrossed in reading, for example) - that I haven't been enjoying the music as much (or that a slight irritation has crept into my consciousness). Then I realize, "oh yeah, the buzzer may be going off!". I have found that a very quiet environment always provides much more enjoyment while listening to pretty much anything. In the summer, I sometimes use a fan to keep me cool; but when I want to enjoy the music more, I always turn it off.
post #7639 of 10426
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Originally Posted by jfz View Post

The problem I have with a fan that makes noise in an audio component is that I AM "hearing" it when music is playing. The quotation marks are there because, while I may not NOTICE (hear) the fan *per se*, it IS affecting the noise floor of the system - and thus the overall enjoyment. It's easy to check this out for yourself. In my case, this is what happens (as an example of this kind of thing): I have a buzzer on my stove in the kitchen, which I can set to time things when cooking. Sometimes while I am listening to music in an adjoining room, I will notice - after several minutes (or as long as a half hour if I'm very engrossed in reading, for example) - that I haven't been enjoying the music as much (or that a slight irritation has crept into my consciousness). Then I realize, "oh yeah, the buzzer may be going off!". I have found that a very quiet environment always provides much more enjoyment while listening to pretty much anything. In the summer, I sometimes use a fan to keep me cool; but when I want to enjoy the music more, I always turn it off.

How much noise level is the fan rated?
post #7640 of 10426
I was playing a brand new DVD-A, and while navigating the menus my two-month-old player froze and would not respond to the navigation buttons on the remote. This has happened before with other DVD-As, so I just turned the player off using the power button on the remote, then on again after a minute or so. Upon power on, there were some unusual tr-r-r-r-r sounds from the loader that I attributed to normal seek after a crash, otherwise everything seemed back to normal. However, when I took the DVD out, to my horror, I noticed four concentric abrasions on the play side of the disc, about an inch long, eighth of an inch wide, two and two on the opposite sides of the disc. Additionally, the transparent center has also circular scrapes. See partial picture:



I have been now testing the player for a couple of days with multiple discs including the originally damaged one (it still plays) with the following results:

I cannot make the player freeze on regular CDs and DVD-Video. I can make it freeze on Dual Layer DVD-Audio (King Crimson IEZP-24 Japan set, bit-identical to US KCSP2: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003XTUZIC)
The freezes are not repeatable, but frequent enough that I was able to make them happen four times in 15 minutes, not always by the same button press sequence, but similar to this:

Go to the Extras menu, drill down to one of the sub-menus, select a track to play, then press Previous track, Next track buttons on the remote several times at random intervals. Eventually, the player stopped responding to all remote buttons except power off and a repetitive quiet seek noise was heard from the loader about once a second.

In most of these cases, turning the player off and on recovered gracefully, resuming playback from the same position. In one case, though, the player did not resume, but started playing the main menu. This was the same situation as when the disc got damaged. IN THIS ONLY CASE there was the tr-r-r-r-r seeking noise heard upon powering on, but this time the tr-r-r-r sound was quieter, more normal seeking noise than I remember from the disc damage incident on Friday. On Friday, it seemed to have a more sinister tinge to it.

So, no disc was damaged during this testing. I strongly suspect that the original disc damage happened during the power up after the freeze and the freeze is not the cause, but maybe a prerequisite or could be completely unrelated.

I am not familiar with how the loader is designed internally, but I think the center damage must have been caused by slipping on the spindle table either because the disc is not clamped securely or is dragging on something. I initially thought the play area damage could have been caused by dragging on the loading tray, but I know now it could not - I tried to rotate a test disc on the tray and due to the indentation of the tray the scrapes would happen much closer to the edge than on the originally damaged disk. So the laser lens is the more likely culprit?

I also believe I could prevent another disc from being damaged by not pressing the power on button with the disk in the loader, but rather pressing the eject button on the loader, which will power on the player without spinning up the disc.

Anyway, I of course contacted Oppo and they said that damage like that could be caused by moving or bumping the player during use. This absolutely was not the case. There was no one near the player and there was no external vibration (traffic, earthquake) in the house at the time.

Oppo further suggested sending the player in, but since the problem is not repeatable, they said they would likely swap the player for another (refurbished or customer returned). They also sent me a label to return the player on their nickel, which was very nice.

So, my questions are:

A) Has anyone experienced disc damage in the player?

B) Would you send the player to be replaced? I know it seems like a no-brainer, but if this was either a freak occurrence or is some rare problem present in all units, all I would accomplish by the exchange would be that I'd get essentially a USED player with unknown history, and worse yet, quite possibly with the new firmware with the ISO playback disabled.

I don't know what to do and I can't sleep at night. I have tons of irreplaceable out of print discs, esp. SACDs that I cannot afford to get damaged. I do not trust the current unit but I'm not sure I would be able to quite trust the replacement either. But I otherwise like the BDP-95 very much and would love to keep it as my primary player.

Sorry for the long post.
post #7641 of 10426
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Originally Posted by oregonalex View Post

A) Has anyone experienced disc damage in the player?

I understand your anxiety, but I've read this thread and the 93 thread from day one and I don't recall a report like yours. I hope that doesn't mean I'm losing it.

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B) Would you send the player to be replaced?

Yes.

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I know it seems like a no-brainer, but if this was either a freak occurrence or is some rare problem present in all units, all I would accomplish by the exchange would be that I'd get essentially a USED player with unknown history, and worse yet, quite possibly with the new firmware with the ISO playback disabled.

Your player is also a used player. If you expect to find a perfect solution, it's probably not possible. As for the .ISO issue, OPPO will not install a Beta firmware in the player they send you. I think you might also be able to request that they not install a new official firmware in the unit they send you if the new official version is released before your exchange unit can be shipped. You might also want to download the USB version of the current firmware in case the unit OPPO sends you has an earlier version.

Are you planning to copy your collection to a HD for direct USB playback?

Good luck.
post #7642 of 10426
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

I understand your anxiety, but I've read this thread and the 93 thread from day one and I don't recall a report like yours. I hope that doesn't mean I'm losing it.

Same here. Except that I know I have already lost it.

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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

If you expect to find a perfect solution, it's probably not possible.

I know. Hence the lack of sleep. But you are right. I don't have a choice but to send the unit in.

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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

As for the .ISO issue, OPPO will not install a Beta firmware in the player they send you. I think you might also be able to request that they not install a new official firmware in the unit they send you if the new official version is released before your exchange unit can be shipped. You might also want to download the USB version of the current firmware in case the unit OPPO sends you has an earlier version.

Great suggestion for the current FW download, thank you. The RMA letter they sent has verbiage in big letters on top, that they will update the firmware to current for all units sent for repair. I just hope the current beta does not go official while my unit is there.

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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Are you planning to copy your collection to a HD for direct USB playback?

I have ripped all my CDs to a HD and burn them to a CD-RW for playback as needed. Playing the rips directly is unsatisfactory because they are ripped disc per file and I would lose track navigation as Oppo cannot handle cue sheets. I have also ripped non-copy protected DVD-As and play them as ISOs from a HD. I know there is some complicated possibility to rip SACDs, but it is of a questionable legality in my jurisdiction.

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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Good luck.

Thank you.
post #7643 of 10426
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Originally Posted by oregonalex View Post

I have ripped all my CDs to a HD and burn them to a CD-RW for playback as needed. Playing the rips directly is unsatisfactory because they are ripped disc per file and I would lose track navigation as Oppo cannot handle cue sheets.

Regarding this one point, I have discovered the Oppo will recognize cue sheets if streamed via Foobar, with full navigation control (selecting tracks,ff, etc). The downside is it isn't gapless, the Oppo still adds a pause similar to playing individual flacs, but at least there is a way to play from a cue sheet if you use Foobar to stream your per-disc flac file.
post #7644 of 10426
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Originally Posted by oregonalex View Post

I don't know what to do and I can't sleep at night. I have tons of irreplaceable out of print discs, esp. SACDs that I cannot afford to get damaged. I do not trust the current unit but I'm not sure I would be able to quite trust the replacement either. But I otherwise like the BDP-95 very much and would love to keep it as my primary player.

It's possible for a disc to get stuck on the drive spindle, and not get dropped as it should when playback stops. This can result in unintended contact with the disc tray. This can be a result of that particular disc being out of spec, or the result of some crud being stuck to the spindle. In either case it's usually a one-time event, and if there have been no additional issues it can safely be ignored. This is true of all disc drives, they are mechanical devices and subject to Murphy's law. I'm sure that Oppo is happy to replace the player for you if you wish, but it may not really be necessary. If you do have any new episodes of a freeze during playback, be sure to eject the disc before re-loading it to make sure it's not similarly stuck.
post #7645 of 10426
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

It's possible for a disc to get stuck on the drive spindle, and not get dropped as it should when playback stops. This can result in unintended contact with the disc tray. This can be a result of that particular disc being out of spec, or the result of some crud being stuck to the spindle. In either case it's usually a one-time event, and if there have been no additional issues it can safely be ignored. This is true of all disc drives, they are mechanical devices and subject to Murphy's law. I'm sure that Oppo is happy to replace the player for you if you wish, but it may not really be necessary. If you do have any new episodes of a freeze during playback, be sure to eject the disc before re-loading it to make sure it's not similarly stuck.

That's essentially what I thought originally. I thought that the freeze left the loader in some unknown state, and since powering down does not really disconnect power to the player, the next power up found the loader in some unexpected uninitialized state and who knows what could have happened.

There are some points against it, though:

- The disk is brand new, Japanese made DVD-A. There is virtually zero possibility of it being out of spec in any way.

- I tried to inflict a similar damage to a test disc by contact with the tray and due to the shape of the tray it was not possible. Additionally, there is the center area damage that could not have been done by anything but the spindle.

- Our living room is adults only, no smoke, no pets, windows always closed room. The player is two moths old. I played maybe 60 disks in it total, all absolutely clean. The likelihood of a foreign object or crud in there is exceedingly unlikely.

- I really really don't want the player replaced, so there goes my dilemma. As htwaits observed, there is no perfect solution. Also, if I have to exchange it later after the current beta FW becomes official, then I'm really screwed.

Thanks for your advice in any case.
post #7646 of 10426
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Originally Posted by scolumbo View Post

Regarding this one point, I have discovered the Oppo will recognize cue sheets if streamed via Foobar, with full navigation control (selecting tracks,ff, etc). The downside is it isn't gapless, the Oppo still adds a pause similar to playing individual flacs, but at least there is a way to play from a cue sheet if you use Foobar to stream your per-disc flac file.

That's good to know. Still, however, can you imagine listening to, say, Dark Side of the Moon,with gaps?
post #7647 of 10426
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Originally Posted by oregonalex View Post

That's good to know. Still, however, can you imagine listening to, say, Dark Side of the Moon,with gaps?

Heavens, no! But at least you can play some CD's where gaps aren't so critical.
post #7648 of 10426
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Originally Posted by oregonalex View Post

That's essentially what I thought originally. I thought that the freeze left the loader in some unknown state, and since powering down does not really disconnect power to the player, the next power up found the loader in some unexpected uninitialized state and who knows what could have happened.

There are some points against it, though:

- The disk is brand new, Japanese made DVD-A. There is virtually zero possibility of it being out of spec in any way.

- I tried to inflict a similar damage to a test disc by contact with the tray and due to the shape of the tray it was not possible. Additionally, there is the center area damage that could not have been done by anything but the spindle.

- Our living room is adults only, no smoke, no pets, windows always closed room. The player is two moths old. I played maybe 60 disks in it total, all absolutely clean. The likelihood of a foreign object or crud in there is exceedingly unlikely.

- I really really don't want the player replaced, so there goes my dilemma. As htwaits observed, there is no perfect solution. Also, if I have to exchange it later after the current beta FW becomes official, then I'm really screwed.

Thanks for your advice in any case.

Discs are sometimes made incorrectly: Hole too small, hole off center. It happens.

There are other ways you can get in trouble of course such as not sitting the disc properly in the tray before closing it, or putting more than one disc in the tray (don't laugh, it happens).

Why are you worried about getting a replacement player? Oppo has a great track record with their refurbished players. When they come up for sale now and again they are always snapped up in an instant.
--Bob
post #7649 of 10426
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

Why are you worried about getting a replacement player?

Because I am an obsessive compulsive geek, and intensely dislike owning anything previously used. The replacement unit would likely be one that got returned within the 30 day period. It could have been treated unkindly by someone who already knew they are going to return it. I have nightmare visions of rental Shrek DVDs with peanut butter on them being played in it.

If I get a refurbished unit, I would likely sell it and get a new player.
post #7650 of 10426
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Originally Posted by oregonalex View Post

If I get a refurbished unit, I would likely sell it and get a new player.

If that's your plan I would get the new one shipped right away (yesterday) if you want to maintain the .ISO capability.
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