Official OPPO BDP-95 Owner's Thread - Page 277

Originally Posted by rdgrimes

Generally, the stereo inputs on an AVR will result in an A-D-A conversion, so you're not really getting full benefit of the Oppo's DAC.

Originally Posted by Newbuthooked

Unfortunately i am using the denon amps for the surrounds so it looks like i am stuck... I guess i should have done some homework befoe pulling the trigger on the oppo. Im sure i will still enjoy it but i hate not being able to get the most out of what you buy.

Originally Posted by Lotus00

what about having both, the 95 & 93? could use the 95 hooked up to an amp to play SACD etc and then use the 93 for bluray movies.

Originally Posted by Newbuthooked

Thanks for the feedback and it has given me something to think about... I really do like the denon but I am within my 30 days if there happened to be a better option that would offer both preouts and multichannel inputs?? Let the research begin (again)

Originally Posted by Newbuthooked

I have to ask though will the sound quality of the 93 via HDMI be much less quality than the 95 via analog? Please feel free to lie to make be feel better

Thanks again

Originally Posted by gsr

Since all outputs are always active, there's no need to have both models. But assuming you're talking about having everything in 1 room, how are you going to deal with all the speakers you'll have connected to the amp and AVR?

Originally Posted by Newbuthooked

last question and again i appreciate the help... I fully understand now that i am not taking advantage of the 95's DAC when it comes to multichannel inputs but i am at least benefiting somewhat when i listen to 2 channel? it goes back to having it hooked up from the oppos's FL & FR to the denon's CD input. It seems like the 2 responses i received contradict if in fact setting the denon to pure direct would help or not.

Originally Posted by wmcclain

mkvmerge also has a header editor (and a command line utility for doing the same thing). Have you ever tried just modifying the attributes in the header rather than remuxing a new file? I'm genuinely curious about this.

-Bill

Originally Posted by joel57

I own the BDP-83 SE Nuforce Edition. Is there anyone who's compared it with the BDP-95? Is there enough of an improvement to justify moving from the BDP-83 NE to the BDP-95?

How did the NuForce NXE board fare against the Oppo BDP-95? For two-channel material I used the BDP-95's dedicated balanced two-channel output, but I also listened to the single-ended RCAs. After many hours using CDs, SACDs, and Blu-Ray music discs, I declared a tie. The best sounding unit depended on the source. For two-channel-only material the BDP-95 delivered the best sonics. It combined slightly better low-level detail with superior low-frequency weight and definition. But on multi-channel sources, such as music Blu-Rays and movies, the BDP-93 NXE multi-channel outputs had superior fidelity to the BDP-95's standard 5.1 outputs

Originally Posted by Roger Dressler

Why not do the comparison? Run the stereo inputs thru the Denon CD input using Stereo Direct Pure Analog. That avoids any DSP or conversions. Compare that with digital connections and whatever processing you use. If you like the processed results better, the BDP-93 will serve equally well. If you want analog direct for 5.1, you'll need a new AVR with 5.1 analog bypass and probably want to keep the 95.

Originally Posted by baniels


I came back to this tonight and after comparing a good file that displayed properly, with one that did not, I found that the bad file had no values for the "Video display width" and "Video display height" fields.

Copying the values from the "Video pixel width/height" into the display width/height field seems to be the trick. It takes only a few seconds and no remuxing is needed. This is wonderful.

Originally Posted by glangford

I'm not sure the 3312ci accomplishes what he needs in pure direct. From my 3311 manual it says pure direct cuts off the display and video analog circuits, but only says audyssey cannot be adjusted. It doesn't declare it a pure analog path.

Newbuthooked:
you will want to use the audyssey byp L/R which optimizes all speakers except the fl/fr which are bypassed.

You might want to seek out batpig in the denon forums.

Originally Posted by starman7

Many thanks guys...

It does now seem to be working with Deep Colour set to 30 bits.
I may turn Deep Colour to OFF as I am not really watching much video through the HDMI 2.

Another quirk... (never a dull moment with this player I'm finding )... is that YouTube is now not working.
I tested the connection (which was fine), but then YouTube just seems to "hang" there. I then retested the connection and bam... nothing.
I reset the player and did a full power down reboot.
Connection was fine. Tried YouTube again... but no joy.
Tried the connection test again and bam... another nothing.
Don't get me wrong... I love this player but it seems to have more 'quirks' than all my other kit put together!

Originally Posted by Neuromancer

YouTube Leanback not working is a known issue at the moment that OPPO is trying to resolve through Google.

Originally Posted by wmcclain

Very good! As we suspected, the problem files are missing some pixel dimension values that the OPPO needs.

Two things:

(1) Could you write this up for OPPO? Maybe they could apply some defaults for these attributes, which seems to work well for VLC and other devices.

(2) How was the original file produced? It would be good to know which tools do and and do not populate those fields. We know that mkvmerge does, and I think Handbrake does also.

Thanks for checking into this.

-Bill

Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau

^ It's what YouTube calls their app on the OPPO. The idea is that rather than the normal web interface where you search for and select individual clips to play one at a time, with Leanback you do a search and the app plays a sequence of results clips for you while you "lean back".

(You know Google PAYS people real money to come up with marketing names like this?)
--Bob

Originally Posted by starman7

Haha... thanks Bob. That actually does make sense...

By the way... I've been using that "RATATOUILE" disc test to try and get a COLOUR SPACE and DEEP COLOUR setting I like best on the OPPO 95 and my Pioneer 60" KURO...

And... to be honest...

I've settled on COLOUR SPACE "RGB VIDEO LEVEL", but the DEEP COLOUR settings seem to make no difference at all.

The banding at the scene where the Rat is in the jar and the man is pulling it out of frame (at the time mark you suggested)... is very VERY hard to see in any of the DEEP COLOUR settings on my set-up.

It may be marginally better in some settings than others but the differences are sooo tiny on my KURO that after 45 minutes of "back-and-forth" I settled on 36 bits for HDMI 1 and I decided to set HDMI 2 to DEEP COLOUR "OFF" to help the audio (less bandwidth going through the HDMI lead).

Thank you for your tip and help with this test though.

Originally Posted by joel57

I own the BDP-83 SE Nuforce Edition. Is there anyone who's compared it with the BDP-95? Is there enough of an improvement to justify moving from the BDP-83 NE to the BDP-95?

Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau

Many displays don't support Deep Color formatted input, which means the handshake will default to Deep Color OFF ( = 24 bits). Other Displays do "lip service" to Deep Color formatted data by accepting 30 or 36 bit input but immediately truncating that down to 24 bits on input as the first step!

If you CAN'T see a difference, the Deep Color OFF (or OFF (Dithered) if that looks better) is PREFERABLE as that is a lower bandwidth signal than 30 or 36 bit and thus is likely to be less problematic during handshakes.

Other Kuro owners have also reported that RGB Video Level with Deep Color OFF seems to be working best for them. I don't know if that's true across ALL Kuro models, but at least it seems consistent with what you are finding.

Keep in mind that the more significant differences you are looking for here mostly arise from BUGS in the display or AVR (if that's in the video path). If your Display has no bugs then you are less likely to see significant differences. Truly minor differences are probably actually representative of the different information content in the different format choices -- i.e., the real value of 36 bits vs. 24 bits. Of course if you find a preferred format, then that's the one to use. But what's really important here is eliminating those format choices that trigger quirks (i.e., bugs) in the Display or AVR -- those more significant differences.
--Bob

Originally Posted by glangford

I'm not sure the 3312ci accomplishes what he needs in pure direct. From my 3311 manual it says pure direct cuts off the display and video analog circuits, but only says audyssey cannot be adjusted. It doesn't declare it a pure analog path.