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post #8701 of 10428
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Originally Posted by JAM1415 View Post

Thanks for your insight, Audiofan. I felt the same way about the sq through the XLR connection versus the RCA connection, so I scrapped the XLR interconnects. I may try again someday and let them burn in for longer, but will try to match any replacement XLR interconnects with the rest of my system which uses Analysis Plus interconnects. Happy listening!

You could hook up both balanced and RCA. Use RCA to tame average to poor recordings. When you want to light a fire under it and boogie run balanced

(If it really sounds awful balanced, on a known good recording, then something is up with your preamp because the Oppo is a true balanced player not an op-amp fake balanced circuit.)
post #8702 of 10428
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

You could hook up both balanced and RCA. Use RCA to tame average to poor recordings. When you want to light a fire under it and boogie run balanced

(If it really sounds awful balanced, on a known good recording, then something is up with your preamp because the Oppo is a true balanced player not an op-amp fake balanced circuit.)

That was my original plan, rca to tame the bright harsh ones and the xlr outs for the reference but after the burn in (as for the nay sayers I can a/b this on the fly with the same type of cables) I use the rca's for multi/ch and movies and xlr for music, It took awhile but well worth the wait
post #8703 of 10428
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Originally Posted by glangford View Post

I've had that happen on a couple of titles, only to find out that netflix no longer streams that movie so it was dropped from my que. You'd think that once they started streaming a movie that they always would, but no.

Yes, Netflix typically negotiates for time-limited streaming rights. Some titles are only available for streaming for a limited number of months. In other cases, Netflix has not been able to renew their contract with a content provider. For example they recently lost *ALL* the Starz titles because they were unwilling to meet Starz' demand for higher licensing fees.

If a movie vanishes from your Netflix Instant Queue, or is no longer found by Search on the player, go check on the Netflix web site and see if that movie is even offered for streaming any longer. It makes no difference that you may have only partially viewed a title, or only partially viewed all the episodes of a TV show. If Netflix loses the right to stream that title, then *POOF!*, it's gone.

(Netflix also restricts some titles against streaming to computers, but that doesn't affect the OPPO. At the moment, I don't think Netflix has titles in their catalog which ONLY stream to computers. Contrast with Hulu.)

Netflix also has different implementations of how it sorts the items in your Instant Queue when viewed on the player or viewed on their website. Nobody knows why.
--Bob
post #8704 of 10428
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Originally Posted by JAM1415 View Post

I noticed that scary sounding intermittent hissing on SACDs and brought it up in October at post #6362 but received no responses at the time:

"On a separate note, I have been using Kimber Cable PBJ balanced xlr cables into my Anthem AVM 30 and have noticed on a few occasions a hissing sound for a few seconds and some harshness compared to the analog outs. Is that a problem with the my balanced cables or is it something I am doing? Or is it just my ears?"

I ended up selling the cables and no longer using the balanced outputs of the 95 and do not recall hearing that hissing since. It was definately an alarming sound as it came out of nowhere and sounded like it could blow something in your speakers. I wonder in retrospect if perhaps the volume was being overdriven out of the DAC if the Oppo volume was set at the maximum?

Were your cables balanced at both ends? The reason I ask is that after I first got my 95 I decided to update the downstream electronics to Parasound Halo separates. The P7 pre came in before the A51 amp. So, in the meantime I used an XLR to RCA cable between the P7 and the main in on my old receiver. The electronics did not like this! Unbelievable hiss and distortion. However, this only occurred when I was playing SACDs on the 95! CDs and DVDs did not exhibit the same behavior. Anyway, the problem went away when the A51 came in and I switched cables to balanced on both ends.

I use the balanced outs on the 95 as my main outputs for stereo listening all the time and I can find no fault with the sound quality. I'm using basic Belden 1800F shielded twisted-pair cable with Neutrik XLR's throughout my system. Nothing fancy and it gets the job done.
post #8705 of 10428
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Originally Posted by JAM1415 View Post

I noticed that scary sounding intermittent hissing on SACDs and brought it up in October at post #6362 but received no responses at the time:

"On a separate note, I have been using Kimber Cable PBJ balanced xlr cables into my Anthem AVM 30 and have noticed on a few occasions a hissing sound for a few seconds and some harshness compared to the analog outs. Is that a problem with the my balanced cables or is it something I am doing? Or is it just my ears?"

I ended up selling the cables and no longer using the balanced outputs of the 95 and do not recall hearing that hissing since. It was definately an alarming sound as it came out of nowhere and sounded like it could blow something in your speakers. I wonder in retrospect if perhaps the volume was being overdriven out of the DAC if the Oppo volume was set at the maximum?

I almost forgot, where you sure the AVM30 was in Analog/direct mode? As it will exhibit the Harshness you described if its in the Analog/dsp mode. I sometimes use the the analog/ dsp mode for Netflix to tap the Anthem's post signal processing for DPLII or whatever but you have to also adjust the output from 96 to 48 or 44 for no harshness or no signal at all, at the moment I don't use a coax or optical cable and don't no if this applies there but I'm almost certain this is the distortion you heard, its indeed scary
post #8706 of 10428
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

I almost forgot, where you sure the AVM30 was in Analog/direct mode? As it will exhibit the Harshness you described if its in the Analog/dsp mode. I sometimes use the the analog/ dsp mode for Netflix to tap the Anthem's post signal processing for DPLII or whatever but you have to also adjust the output from 96 to 48 or 44 for no harshness or no signal at all, at the moment I don't use a coax or optical cable and don't no if this applies there but I'm almost certain this is the distortion you heard, its indeed scary

I do believe I was in analog/dsp mode as I read on AVS that was the way to go, but I should experiment with analog direct. To answer an earlier post, the xlr interconnects I was using were balanced at both ends, so it was not a balanced to rca connection. I had the multichannel analog outs connected along with the balanced xlr and found I was preferring the sound through the rca connection when switching back and forth, hiss notwithstanding. It may be that I didn't give it enough time, the interconnects were not the right fit for my system or it was a setting on my Anthem -- gone are the days when you only had a red and white stereo cable to hook up! If I reacquire balanced interconnects some day, I will give these ideas a try.
post #8707 of 10428
I tried using AVS audio converter to convert some Flac to PCM codec wave files choosing 96 kHz, 32 bit. I can burn the converted file to CD and it would play but I could not play the PCM codec file directly from the USB thumb drive. When I tried, the Oppo would display the file names but as soon I select one it would display file not recognized and then locked up. Did I do something wrong or the Oppo in fact cannot play such PCM codec file? Sorry if this kind of queston has been asked and answered before.
post #8708 of 10428
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Originally Posted by avman09 View Post

I tried using AVS audio converter to convert some Flac to PCM codec wave files choosing 96 kHz, 32 bit. I can burn the converted file to CD and it would play but I could not play the PCM codec file directly from the USB thumb drive. When I tried, the Oppo would display the file names but as soon I select one it would display file not recognized and then locked up. Did I do something wrong or the Oppo in fact cannot play such PCM codec file? Sorry if this kind of queston has been asked and answered before.

I generated a bunch of PCM files at one time with ffmpeg and the only ones I recall working were encoded s16le and u8.

You created a playable audio CD with that data? I thought CD had to be 44.1 khz, 16bit, stereo.

-Bill
post #8709 of 10428
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Originally Posted by JAM1415 View Post

I do believe I was in analog/dsp mode as I read on AVS that was the way to go, but I should experiment with analog direct. To answer an earlier post, the xlr interconnects I was using were balanced at both ends, so it was not a balanced to rca connection. I had the multichannel analog outs connected along with the balanced xlr and found I was preferring the sound through the rca connection when switching back and forth, hiss notwithstanding. It may be that I didn't give it enough time, the interconnects were not the right fit for my system or it was a setting on my Anthem -- gone are the days when you only had a red and white stereo cable to hook up! If I reacquire balanced interconnects some day, I will give these ideas a try.

If you where indeed in the Analog/dsp mode, you still haven't heard the Ess sabre dac Switch it pronto I would be intrested in your impressions versus the Anthem's dacs which I love but where bettered by the 95's
post #8710 of 10428
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

I generated a bunch of PCM files at one time with ffmpeg and the only ones I recall working were encoded s16le and u8.

You created a playable audio CD with that data? I thought CD had to be 44.1 khz, 16bit, stereo.

-Bill

I used Windows to create an audio CD and I am sure it converted the file to 44.2 khz 16 bit. My point was that the 32 bit file created by avs audio converter must be good if windows could burn it to CD. Anyway I did it again in 96 kHz/24bit and it works fine this time.
post #8711 of 10428
Hi I hooked up a new bdp-95 yesterday at noon the fan came on after 10 min the unit was turn on and never turned off. It was on for nine hours. I only used it for cds I also left the unit idle. The unit was set on top of a open shelf and the room temp was 65. today I turn on the unit and so far the same thing after 10 min the fan goes on and never turns off. I have read some people say their fan runs very little. the unit is in the open and the room is cool. Do you think I have a bad player?
post #8712 of 10428
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Originally Posted by philstar1 View Post

Hi I hooked up a new bdp-95 yesterday at noon the fan came on after 10 min the unit was turn on and never turned off. It was on for nine hours. I only used it for cds I also left the unit idle. The unit was set on top of a open shelf and the room temp was 65. today I turn on the unit and so far the same thing after 10 min the fan goes on and never turns off. I have read some people say their fan runs very little. the unit is in the open and the room is cool. Do you think I have a bad player?

Definately not normal! The temperature sensor has probably gone bad and you need to contact Oppo ASAP.
post #8713 of 10428
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Originally Posted by philstar1 View Post

Hi I hooked up a new bdp-95 yesterday at noon the fan came on after 10 min the unit was turn on and never turned off. It was on for nine hours. I only used it for cds I also left the unit idle. The unit was set on top of a open shelf and the room temp was 65. today I turn on the unit and so far the same thing after 10 min the fan goes on and never turns off. I have read some people say their fan runs very little. the unit is in the open and the room is cool. Do you think I have a bad player?

There's any number of factors that influence the need for cooling. The fan is temp-controlled. What's "normal" is completely dependent on many variables.

The bigger question is whether the fan is bothering you. If not then ignore it. If it bothers you then give Oppo a call and ask them about it.
post #8714 of 10428
I had a bdp-95 unit for 2 weeks in March in the same set up and room and the fan ran about 20 mins on and off per hour? Anyway i'm sending this unit back.There going to send me another unit. Thanks for your help.
post #8715 of 10428
What is going on with their manufacturing? I keep hearing wildly varying opinions of sound quality and fan noise, like no other product. There should not be this many variances.
post #8716 of 10428
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

What is going on with their manufacturing? I keep hearing wildly varying opinions of sound quality and fan noise, like no other product. There should not be this many variances.

This probably one of the most talked about pieces of gear(currently) I know of, So it could be the reports of problems or praise silent or noisy fan are just magnified more
post #8717 of 10428
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

What is going on with their manufacturing? I keep hearing wildly varying opinions of sound quality and fan noise, like no other product. There should not be this many variances.

Each person is going to have their own performance expectations and personal preferences. One man's silence is another man's noisy fan.

I can say with nearly 100% authority that issues related to fan noises are personal, and not related to varying levels of manufacturing shortfalls. I will also say that the same about the audio performance.
post #8718 of 10428
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Originally Posted by philstar1 View Post

Hi I hooked up a new bdp-95 yesterday at noon the fan came on after 10 min the unit was turn on and never turned off. It was on for nine hours. I only used it for cds I also left the unit idle. The unit was set on top of a open shelf and the room temp was 65. today I turn on the unit and so far the same thing after 10 min the fan goes on and never turns off. I have read some people say their fan runs very little. the unit is in the open and the room is cool. Do you think I have a bad player?

There is normal that the fan of BDP95 turn ON and OFF while the player is ON. There is normal too that the fan can run all the time the player is ON. Your player behave normal in this respect.
That fan is controlled directly by the main processor. There is not any other temperature sensor in the player. If that fan is runing all the time it mean that the main processor get hot enough to triger the fan ON. The meaning of including a temp control in the main processor was at that fan will cool the processor itself and directly. The Oppo`s designers preferred (wrong) to place that little fun quite far from the main processor, and it used it to cool the entire player enclosure. That because the function of that fan is different from player to player. It depends on how well or not the main processor get rid of its heat. The cooling of the main processor is anyway poor, and the designers had chose to run the processor hot to make the fan to trigger out and ventilate the entire enclosure... This is quite stupid...
Running the main processor at lower temperature improve enough both the video and audio quality of the player! The fan case in this player is a design issue. There is quite hard to understand why the Oppo`s designers preferred not to get the most out of their product (high advanced hardware), and it lowered its parameters/quality by a such bad designed cooling system...
post #8719 of 10428
Today while waiting for new unit to come I turned on the player listen to music for 11/2 hours fan never came on?? Last 2 times fan never shut off very very confusing. same setup same room.Just thought some one out there might like to know what I'm experiencing. New replacement will be here Mon I may keep this unit for a day or two and play them together at same time to see how the fan reacts side by side.
post #8720 of 10428
^ The need for cooling depends on lots of things, including the type of discs you are playing. Variation in fan speed is normal.
--Bob
post #8721 of 10428
Right now I'm only playing cds.
post #8722 of 10428
I would turn off that bunsen burner underneath the player.
post #8723 of 10428
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Originally Posted by Coris View Post

There is normal that the fan of BDP95 turn ON and OFF while the player is ON. There is normal too that the fan can run all the time the player is ON. Your player behave normal in this respect.
That fan is controlled directly by the main processor. There is not any other temperature sensor in the player. If that fan is runing all the time it mean that the main processor get hot enough to triger the fan ON. The meaning of including a temp control in the main processor was at that fan will cool the processor itself and directly. The Oppo`s designers preferred (wrong) to place that little fun quite far from the main processor, and it used it to cool the entire player enclosure. That because the function of that fan is different from player to player. It depends on how well or not the main processor get rid of its heat. The cooling of the main processor is anyway poor, and the designers had chose to run the processor hot to make the fan to trigger out and ventilate the entire enclosure... This is quite stupid...
Running the main processor at lower temperature improve enough both the video and audio quality of the player! The fan case in this player is a design issue. There is quite hard to understand why the Oppo`s designers preferred not to get the most out of their product (high advanced hardware), and it lowered its parameters/quality by a such bad designed cooling system...

What philstar1 said was that the player was in the open with no obstructions at the top and sides of the player (and i'm assuming no bunsen burners underneath the player). There is nothing to jack up the heat inside the player high enough to turn on the fan endlessly. My 95 is inside a semi-enclosure with no external cooling and the fan hardly ever turns on.
post #8724 of 10428
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

What philstar1 said was that the player was in the open with no obstructions at the top and sides of the player (and i'm assuming no bunsen burners underneath the player). There is nothing to jack up the heat inside the player high enough to turn on the fan endlessly. My 95 is inside a semi-enclosure with no external cooling and the fan hardly ever turns on.

I could read many contradictory observations/informations about this fan function/noise problem. It seems that every player behave different from another in this (cooling) field. This is definitively an (design) issue, which Oppo may take a closer look on. One may know that the main processor run very hot anyway, the most of it heat is spreading out through the bad thermal conducting chassis, and the fan it self help very little to cool down that processor (which include the temp control circuit).
In my case I had a quite normal function of the fan inside my player. It just got started intermittent when the heat were to high inside. Only the noise of this working fan were very uncomfortable to me. So, I decided to fix this. I mounted an bigger heat sink on the main processor (the motherboard was specially designed for the use of an enough big heat sink on the processor, but in fact Oppo decided to use a very small metal plate and some special compound to cool down that chip).
After mounting a bigger heat sink on the processor in my player, I`ve seen that the fan never started at all. The processor was enough cool to trigger the fan ON. But no ventilation inside the player is not a good thing at all. There are another heat sources inside which have to be cooled down. So, I have chose to let the fan running all the time, at a lower speed (disconnected from the control circuit of the main processor). In this way everything become all right: the processor is now running at a much lower temperature than before, the player enclosure get enough ventilation inside, and the noise from the full speed running fan is gone too...
I also mean that in this way should Oppo it self design and implement the cooling system in BDP95...

(PS: By the way, I never used to have may player inside an more or less closed enclosure)
post #8725 of 10428
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Originally Posted by dmusoke View Post

What philstar1 said was that the player was in the open with no obstructions at the top and sides of the player (and i'm assuming no bunsen burners underneath the player). There is nothing to jack up the heat inside the player high enough to turn on the fan endlessly. My 95 is inside a semi-enclosure with no external cooling and the fan hardly ever turns on.

My experience as well. Its in an enclosed cabinet with vented back and closet type doors that are open when the unit is running. I've never heard it come on. Of course when it is on I'm usually listening to something so maybe its on and I don't know it. Not a big deal. Perhaps the semi enclosure muffles some of the fan sound. My old 83 was in the same type setup and i never heard it either.

If it is that bothersome, I would have returned it and gotten the 93 but I really wanted the analog for my headphone rig.
post #8726 of 10428
Hello folks I've looked through the thread to get information on possible known issue with high flickering on 3d playback. Using either out of my 95 the movie Tangled just has way to much flickering gong on to be watched without hurling. My display is a 65hx929 with an av7005 pre handling ht duties. I have connected directly the oppo to several of the tv hdmi to eliminate the pre and I get the same effect. All cables are new so 3d playback should not be an issue. To even depress me more about what the oppo 95 is doing to 3d material is that a cheapy Sony 470 plays the movie without the high flickering. Any help on a setting I may have to alter to fix this will be appreciated. I am at the latest few.
post #8727 of 10428
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Originally Posted by Coris View Post

In my case I had a quite normal function of the fan inside my player. It just got started intermittent when the heat were to high inside. Only the noise of this working fan were very uncomfortable to me. So, I decided to fix this. I mounted an bigger heat sink on the main processor (the motherboard was specially designed for the use of an enough big heat sink on the processor, but in fact Oppo decided to use a very small metal plate and some special compound to cool down that chip).
After mounting a bigger heat sink on the processor in my player, I`ve seen that the fan never started at all. The processor was enough cool to trigger the fan ON. But no ventilation inside the player is not a good thing at all. There are another heat sources inside which have to be cooled down. So, I have chose to let the fan running all the time, at a lower speed (disconnected from the control circuit of the main processor). In this way everything become all right: the processor is now running at a much lower temperature than before, the player enclosure get enough ventilation inside, and the noise from the full speed running fan is gone too...
I also mean that in this way should Oppo it self design and implement the cooling system in BDP95...

Thank you for your very thoughtful post. (I also read your posts over at diyAudio. Seems you have become the defacto expert on the topic.)

I know my player's fan runs most of the time and it is on an open shelf with nothing under or above it that would be a source of external heat to the unit. So it is definitely the 95 itself that generates all the heat.

The 95's fan sits about 10 feet from the listening position. I can say unequivocally the 95 is the greatest source of noise in my room

that is, once I turn the air handling system off.
post #8728 of 10428
Thanks for appreciations... I will not say that I`m an expert... I only try to fix what I think is/goes wrong... Some times it works...
post #8729 of 10428
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Originally Posted by MRMOTA View Post

Hello folks I've looked through the thread to get information on possible known issue with high flickering on 3d playback. Using either out of my 95 the movie Tangled just has way to much flickering gong on to be watched without hurling. My display is a 65hx929 with an av7005 pre handling ht duties. I have connected directly the oppo to several of the tv hdmi to eliminate the pre and I get the same effect. All cables are new so 3d playback should not be an issue. To even depress me more about what the oppo 95 is doing to 3d material is that a cheapy Sony 470 plays the movie without the high flickering. Any help on a setting I may have to alter to fix this will be appreciated. I am at the latest few.

Get in touch with OPPO tech support on this. They may have history either on this 3D title or on your combo of AVR and display.

Are you running the 3D video through the AVR to the display? Or are you running HDMI 1 direct to the display for video and HDMI 2 to the AVR for audio?

When you say the Sony played the disc without problems, was that using the same AVR and display, and the same 3D glasses?
--Bob
post #8730 of 10428
For the oppo I've run video through both the AVR and direct into the TV. I also tried on multiple hdmi inputs with both outs from the oppo with the same flickering persistent. So in essence the AVR has been removed from the loop with no improvement. The Sony 470 has not experienced this through direct connection to the TV. The same glasses are being used with all iterations on the two players. Well did one other thing I hadn't tried looks like three of my hdmi on th tv experience the flickering Likely this is not an oppo issue. I'll test that next to exclude the 95 from having an issue. Thanks
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