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post #8821 of 10456
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Originally Posted by Coris View Post

I have to say that I not intend to experiment more in this fan field. I personally resolved this problem/issue of cooling efficiently the player enclosure, and having a much lower temp for the main processor, without an audible/disturbing noise.
You know, today almost everything are made in China or the zone...
The all point with this is that Oppo chosen the cheapest way to cool a (pretended) audiophile/high end product.
The simplest way for Oppo were to find from so many fan producers, an one with a better product which maybe will cost 1$ more as a low noise fan to be used in their 1000$ player...
For sure, the Opp0`s customers do not have to struggle with that noisy fan inside the box...

When does the fan noise become obvious? I am picky about background noise so I try to shut off everything not needed during real listening. I haven't heard the Oppo fan yet. It is about 8 ft away in a open design rack with no enclosure. Looks like this is a lengthy discussion and has some history, so a quick summary would be much appreciated.
I often listen to SACDs and HD audio over e-SATA, lots of blu-ray movies and not much streaming video but Pandora music.
post #8822 of 10456
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Originally Posted by jmcomp124 View Post

When does the fan noise become obvious? I am picky about background noise so I try to shut off everything not needed during real listening. I haven't heard the Oppo fan yet. It is about 8 ft away in a open design rack with no enclosure. Looks like this is a lengthy discussion and has some history, so a quick summary would be much appreciated.
I often listen to SACDs and HD audio over e-SATA, lots of blu-ray movies and not much streaming video but Pandora music.

Yes, this it was a quite long discussion here, with enough many contradictory observations. I will refer to may case.
The fan noise it was in may case quite irritating one specially in the silent or low level music passages. Classical music have many such moments, and trust me, that noise is not that one can leave with (f. ex. listening to a soft piano). I could hear that specific noise from 2 - 3m sitting in front of the player (my listening place). When is about high dynamic or normal level music, of course is not possible to hear that fan.
Beside the Oppo player I have an media computer which have an optimized cooling system (water cooling pump, and an low noise fan). I can never hear the cooling system of my computer, but I could hear well the fan of Oppo player... like a mosquito sound.
Now it is fixed this about the player, but I wonder a little about so many contradictory observations, when a part still be disturbed of that fan noise, while another part do not hear that sound at all. I just can not explain this.
post #8823 of 10456
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Originally Posted by jmcomp124 View Post

When does the fan noise become obvious? I am picky about background noise so I try to shut off everything not needed during real listening. I haven't heard the Oppo fan yet. It is about 8 ft away in a open design rack with no enclosure. Looks like this is a lengthy discussion and has some history, so a quick summary would be much appreciated.
I often listen to SACDs and HD audio over e-SATA, lots of blu-ray movies and not much streaming video but Pandora music.

If I understand your post, you don't hear the fan. That sounds good to me.
post #8824 of 10456
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Originally Posted by jmcomp124 View Post

... I used to listen to Dire Straits brothers in arms in Audyssey (pro calibrated) DSX 9.2, but now every time I find myself going back to pure 2-ch with the placette.

I enjoy the MC layer of this and other SACDs in native format=5.1 through the AVR 4311 and MultEQXT32 polished with Audyssey Pro. I dislike the derived DSX wides effect on most music but I like it for film. Sorry, OT.
post #8825 of 10456
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

Not quite. The 93, 95 and the Cambridge are designed on the Mediatek kit. Cambridge just has more experience doing audiophile things than Oppo. Oppo's background is mainly video but they should figure it out soon and they're certainly off to a great start.

Sometimes a fan is an indication of design shortcuts, though in this case I blame the heavy software for streaming and blu-rays.

I think the ultimate in longevity would be one of the Esoteric audio-only players with their custom mechanism and a steady rotation of $100 blu-ray players for video

Sorry to say but I would have to disagree just abit as far what one would consider "Audiophile Things" sure the Cambridge may not have a fan but as stated earlier the 95's chassis and layout is not the same as the 93 which the Cambridge and others sit (baring the Mediatek of course) on plus the omission of Audiophile "True" balanced outs outs My room is on the very silent side and the fanless Denon 5900 (bulit to Audiophile standards) it replaced allows me to hear far deeper into the quietest of Classical musical passages and thats with a fan The 83Se was "off to a good start" The 95 made a bold statement and has the sound to back it up for this Audioplile
post #8826 of 10456
I would go for the 95, I have both the 93 and the 95, and the 95 looks and feels a lot better than the 93 IMO. Sound quality wise its probably close, but there are other things to consider.
post #8827 of 10456
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Originally Posted by butchgo View Post

Have any of you had play back problems with Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here SACD?
What I have been experiencing is when you first start the SACD it will play for a short time on track 1 then just stop and the display says stop, just like you pressed the stop button.
When I press play the disc plays normally from that point on.
Part of the trouble is that it never seems to stop at the same point each time.
I was just wondering if any one else is having the problem?



My WYWH SACD plays perfectly. Have you tried it with the resume feature turned off?
post #8828 of 10456
The player and sound is great over all for what it does. BUT IT STILL COST $1000 dollars. The 93 can do all the 95 can for half the price. We pay double to go high end for better sound Not Fan Noise. take the fan out and you would have a lot more happy customers. I have had six 95 units all in the same room and all acted different when I contact oppo everything is normal???.EX fan runs all the time on one player vs fan runs very little on 2nd player both 95s running at the same time same room and running same cd?? I would of keep the player that the fan ran very little bit it had a buzz sound comminf from the unit. I love the 2 channel sound and wanted to love this player but I can not live with the fan noise. I would pay more for this player with no fan. Once again in high end audio no noise is good noise.
post #8829 of 10456
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Originally Posted by philstar1 View Post

The player and sound is great over all for what it does. BUT IT STILL COST $1000 dollars. The 93 can do all the 95 can for half the price. We pay double to go high end for better sound Not Fan Noise. take the fan out and you would have a lot more happy customers. I have had six 95 units all in the same room and all acted different when I contact oppo everything is normal???.EX fan runs all the time on one player vs fan runs very little on 2nd player both 95s running at the same time same room and running same cd?? I would of keep the player that the fan ran very little bit it had a buzz sound comminf from the unit. I love the 2 channel sound and wanted to love this player but I can not live with the fan noise. I would pay more for this player with no fan. Once again in high end audio no noise is good noise.

6 95's, No one can't say you didn't try
post #8830 of 10456
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Originally Posted by Coris View Post

Yes, this it was a quite long discussion here, with enough many contradictory observations.

That's important to point out.

For someone who plans on getting an Oppo 95 and just sees positive opinions on that aspect (which seem to be the majority), there is no guarantee he will not be bothered by the fan noise.

So make sure you can try and return it.
post #8831 of 10456
I am confused, sometimes cover art is not displayed when playing back FLAC files but sometimes it does. How shall I setup the cover art for an album? Right now I have it in a .jpg file inside the album's folder, and as I say with some tracks it shows but with others it doesn't. Thank you.
post #8832 of 10456
The image file in the album folder is irrelevant. When you see a cover picture being displayed by the player, it is integrated in the ID3 tag of the FLAC file.

So you need to prepare the files to show a cover picture. There are many tag editor programs which can put image files into tags, by editing many files at once. My favourite is

http://www.mp3tag.de/en/

The image file has to be integrated into every FLAC file of the album, so don't use one that is very large (several MB). Because of the small cover display in the Oppo screen, you don't need a very detailled picture.

What I do is download the small cover files from allmusic.com and copy them as "folder.jpg" into the album folder (I use "cover.jpg" for larger cover files), and then run the tag editor through the whole group of album folders, by integrating "folder.jpg" as the tag cover. That just takes a few mouse clicks.
post #8833 of 10456
Thank you very much.
post #8834 of 10456
mp3tag is only for windows
Anyone please know a Mac OSX editor to add images to FLAC files? I have tried Max, XLD, Fluke... there must be some app to do this.
Thank you again.
post #8835 of 10456
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Originally Posted by zindra View Post

mp3tag is only for windows
Anyone please know a Mac OSX editor to add images to FLAC files? I have tried Max, XLD, Fluke... there must be some app to do this.
Thank you again.

I just purchased Jaikoz Audio Tagger http://www.jthink.net/jaikoz/ It is supposed to be very good but a bit of a learning curve. I haven't tried it yet so I can't comment on how well it works. You might give it a look
post #8836 of 10456
Thank you. After trying a few I have just found one that works and it's free! It allows to edit multiple FLAC archives including cover art without reenconding. It's called XACT and anyone interested can download it here:
http://xact.scottcbrown.org/
post #8837 of 10456
I have tagged several FLAC tracks and added cover art using XACT for mac osx, the cover art is correctly embedded in each file because if I check them with VLC I can see the cover art in the file's metadata, but the album art does not appear on the BDP95. These files are ripped CDs from my collection, I have other FLAC albums bought from HDTracks and these do display the art correctly, what am I doing wrong...? May be a resolution problem? Thank you.
post #8838 of 10456
Thread Starter 
Ensure that the Album Art size is not more than 60KB in size.
post #8839 of 10456
For the last time:
The Fan Is Silent
it's the air movement the '$1' fan generates.
Now, its still a prob, just don't think Oppo spending more or you replacing it will solve the prob.
It's the wind tunnel effect that needs too be addressed.
Changing how often the fan turns on only lessens how often its heard.
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Originally Posted by philstar1 View Post

The player and sound is great over all for what it does. BUT IT STILL COST $1000 dollars. The 93 can do all the 95 can for half the price. We pay double to go high end for better sound Not Fan Noise. take the fan out and you would have a lot more happy customers. I have had six 95 units all in the same room and all acted different when I contact oppo everything is normal???.EX fan runs all the time on one player vs fan runs very little on 2nd player both 95s running at the same time same room and running same cd?? I would of keep the player that the fan ran very little bit it had a buzz sound comminf from the unit. I love the 2 channel sound and wanted to love this player but I can not live with the fan noise. I would pay more for this player with no fan. Once again in high end audio no noise is good noise.

Who told you "the 93 can do all the 95 can"?
Certainly not in audiophile terms.
95 ESS Sabre32 Reference DAC for the 7.1ch analog output.
93 Cirrus CS4382A DAC for the 7.1ch analog output
95 a second ESS Sabre32 Reference DAC for the stereo analog output.
93 has no dedicated stereo output (tho the 7.1ch output can be set to stereo mode).
95 fully balanced XLR output for stereo.
93 has no XLR balanced output.
95 linear power supply with Rotel-made toroidal transformer for the audio section.
93 only a switching power supply.
95 higher grade op-amps and passive electronic components.
93 regular audio grade op-amps and passive electronic components.
post #8840 of 10456
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Ensure that the Album Art size is not more than 60KB in size.

I have tried with a 300x300 33KB JPG image and it's not working. Any clue...? Thank you.
post #8841 of 10456
Thread Starter 
Try using an alternative program. It is possible that your Album Art is being stored with the wrong notation, so the player is not able to find it. For example, some programs use "Front Cover" as their notation for Album Art, so when the player looks for "Album Art" it is not there. The player is fairly dumb, so you have to be very specific in how the data is presented to the player.
post #8842 of 10456
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Try using an alternative program. It is possible that your Album Art is being stored with the wrong notation, so the player is not able to find it. For example, some programs use "Front Cover" as their notation for Album Art, so when the player looks for "Album Art" it is not there. The player is fairly dumb, so you have to be very specific in how the data is presented to the player.

XACT uses "Album Art", isn't this what the Oppo uses? Is Jpeg the right format?
post #8843 of 10456
I've never had a problem with covers in tags being displayed by the Oppo (when they were present), with pre-tagged files and files I tagged myself with the Mp3tag software mentioned above.

It seems strange that a tagging software would include the cover in a way that the Oppo cannot display it (I thought this stuff was standardized), but the tagging software looks like the cause of the problem here, since everything works fine with my configuration.
post #8844 of 10456
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Originally Posted by Ornette View Post

I've never had a problem with covers in tags being displayed by the Oppo (when they were present), with pre-tagged files and files I tagged myself with the Mp3tag software mentioned above.

It seems strange that a tagging software would include the cover in a way that the Oppo cannot display it (I thought this stuff was standardized), but the tagging software looks like the cause of the problem here, since everything works fine with my configuration.

To discard that the problem was with the tagging software I played the same tracks on VLC and the album art displayed correctly. What may the Oppo not read...?
post #8845 of 10456
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Originally Posted by Neuromancer View Post

Try using an alternative program. It is possible that your Album Art is being stored with the wrong notation, so the player is not able to find it. For example, some programs use "Front Cover" as their notation for Album Art, so when the player looks for "Album Art" it is not there. The player is fairly dumb, so you have to be very specific in how the data is presented to the player.

What type should it be?

possible types for picture data in a flac file:

0: Other
1: 32x32 pixels 'file icon' (PNG only)
2: Other file icon
3: Cover (front)
4: Cover (back)
5: Leaflet page
6: Media (e.g. label side of CD)
7: Lead artist/lead performer/soloist
8: Artist/performer
9: Conductor
10: Band/Orchestra
11: Composer
12: Lyricist/text writer
13: Recording Location
14: During recording
15: During performance
16: Movie/video screen capture
17: A bright coloured fish
18: Illustration
19: Band/artist logotype
20: Publisher/Studio logotype

is "Front Cover" the only one Oppo players look at?
post #8846 of 10456
I use dBpoweramp to rip and tag all my CDs.
It embeds the cover art into the metadata of each file, but I also store a jpg in each folder for future reference (called "Folder.jpg", although as previously mentioned, the Oppo does not see these files).

The rip software searches for the pictures itself in an online database. I try to select smaller file sizes, but if its a rare cd and not many results are found, then sometimes you have to select a fairly large image e.g. 200kb and 750x750 pixels, but so far the Oppo displays them all with no problem. I always try to select square ones in case there is any issue with irregular shaped images(?). You can also search google for alternative pics to add manually if you want.

dBpoweramp offers various notations, but I selected "Front Album Cover", and they are all saved in the metadata as JPEGs.

Good luck.
post #8847 of 10456
I include the front cover only in the tags, although it's possible to include multiple covers.

When tagging the files with MP3Tag, I select "replace existing covers" to make sure there is only one cover image in the tag.

Maybe it's the presence of multiple covers in the tag that causes the Oppo problems.
post #8848 of 10456
Hi, first of all I own oppo products and love them I wanted to love the new 95 when it came out I even tried 6 of them in my room. I paid to ship the units back and most of the units I had for less than a week some only 2 days like I said before they sound very very good something I wanted to own but come on all the units acted different some of the pictures frozee on blu-ray others had loader fans than other one unit had a buzz in it. I really want to own this unit and very very upset with my outcome. I don't no what to do maybe at this time wait to see wat they do next maybe in the fall. Or do I try one more unit because I like the sound and many of you say thay fan is quit and runs very little??
post #8849 of 10456
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Originally Posted by philstar1 View Post

Hi, first of all I own oppo products and love them I wanted to love the new 95 when it came out I even tried 6 of them in my room. I paid to ship the units back and most of the units I had for less than a week some only 2 days like I said before they sound very very good something I wanted to own but come on all the units acted different some of the pictures frozee on blu-ray others had loader fans than other one unit had a buzz in it. I really want to own this unit and very very upset with my outcome. I don't no what to do maybe at this time wait to see wat they do next maybe in the fall. Or do I try one more unit because I like the sound and many of you say thay fan is quit and runs very little??

If you've tried 6 and aren't happy you should move on to some other product line.

-Bill
post #8850 of 10456
I agree but I can't believe all these people on this forum are spending $1000 for a player with the problems I have come across. I want to believe most units are fine with fans or what ever noise coming from unit is quit and the unit preforms correct. Like I said I love the sound it produces from cds, sacds, hdcds, ect. This is why I tried to find a 95 cd player I could live with. PS I know there is going to be a little noise from the unit. also I have a high end system and my be a little pickey but a lot of people on this forum say the fan hardly runs and they can not hear any fan noise???? I quess this is why I keep tring to find a unit I can live with.
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