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post #8941 of 10417
Hum and Fan noise
With my Oppo-95 plugged in, I got a distinct hum when the tv was playing cable tv content but no hum when the Oppo was playing. I tried everything; but still had to unplug the Oppo when not in use to remove the hum. I never brought this up with this forum because I was certain it was the layout. When I switched out the Comcast HDrecorder for the new Cisco cable/HD recorder this nasty hum magically went away.
The OPPO resides on top of my Cisco which generates heat. Of course it was difficult at first to tell if the fan generated the hum, so I put my old copper cased Marantz universal between the Comcast /now Cisco and the OPPO. These 3 units sit atop my CRT tv all open in a 64-74F temp room.
Since last October not once have I detected any fan noise.
post #8942 of 10417
I also was quite bothered by the fan noise on my Oppo 95 so as a last resort I decided to remove the cover of the unit. Obviously it results in a less than aesthetic view of the product but the end result is that the fan NEVER turns on! I've also read in other forums that removing the cover also has a "slight" improvement in sound quality but I honestly haven't expended much energy in validating this.
post #8943 of 10417
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Originally Posted by ttsakai View Post

I also was quite bothered by the fan noise on my Oppo 95 so as a last resort I decided to remove the cover of the unit. Obviously it results in a less than aesthetic view of the product but the end result is that the fan NEVER turns on! I've also read in other forums that removing the cover also has a "slight" improvement in sound quality but I honestly haven't expended much energy in validating this.

Of course there is an improvement when the cover is take it out... It become a better ventilation/cooling for the inside of the player... Lower temperature (better cooling) for the main processor and inside the player enclosure lead to an slightly increasing in sound quality (and stopping the fan to make noise). Taking out the player cover is the worst solution and less efficient in this case.... Not to say more about the aesthetic side... There are better and more efficient solutions for cooling the player enclosure, and the main processor. Some of those solutions were treated earlier in some posts here...
post #8944 of 10417
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post


I don't have the 95, but I understand that it takes first class analog electronics, very good room acoustics, very good speakers, as well as discriminating ears to get the full benefit from the difference between the 95 and the 93. Enjoy.
I'm sorry but I think this kind of statement borders on urban legend. My experience has shown that from an audio perspective, upgrading any component in the chain upgrades the system as a whole and is easily perceived. I got my 95 to replace a Denon 2900 universal before upgrading my electronics from a solid but old stereo receiver to a Parasound P7 pre and A51 amp combo and I could easily hear the difference. My room is "untreated."
post #8945 of 10417
^ At some point your ability to hear improvement has to be limited by the weakest link in your audio chain.

For example, if your speakers are broken, it really doesn't matter how much you spend on your electronics, cables, power cords, etc.

The trick is to get it to the point where the weakest link is your own hearing -- at a price you can afford.

The analog outputs of the 93 are no slouch. So the question is, if you upgrade the analog to that in the 95 will the rest or your audio chain allow you to hear the improvement. Evidently yes for many people as evidenced by this thread.

Personally, I use HDMI audio myself (into my Anthem D2v).
--Bob
post #8946 of 10417
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post


I don't have the 95, but I understand that it takes first class analog electronics, very good room acoustics, very good speakers, as well as discriminating ears to get the full benefit from the difference between the 95 and the 93. Enjoy.

I have the 95 and the 93 and believe me SACD's sound much better on the 95. wink.gif
post #8947 of 10417
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Originally Posted by greylight44 View Post

I have the 95 and the 93 and believe me SACD's sound much better on the 95. wink.gif
Then you must have a worthwhile combination of ingredients. biggrin.gif
post #8948 of 10417
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Originally Posted by davee70 View Post

I'm sorry but I think this kind of statement borders on urban legend.
I'll go with what Bob P just posted.

I'll add that there are cases where the 95 has been bought for the wrong reasons. The real question is whether the new owner can hear the difference between the analog output of the 95 over the same output on the 93. That assumes that the owner can hear the difference between the HDMI bitstream output of a Panasonic 220, and any OPPO output. smile.gif
post #8949 of 10417
Your setup is exactly what he was referring to, I also replaced a Denon (5900 in my case) with the 95 and also mate it with a Halo (A21:D) However my pre is an Anthem Avm20v2. I will say you are right about the fact when a good piece of gear is added the whole benefits. I for one have a well treated room and more money in high dollar cables then I like to mention at times:eek: But I do treat them as components or critical links as well, The cool thing about the 95 is that it has found a home across a pretty broad price range of gear elevating the performance of many a setup. I hope to add the P7 (or JC1) to the mix someday as I feel it will be the next level of performance in my setup but as it stands now after a year of ownership it still amazes me at what it has done for my listening pleasure:)
post #8950 of 10417
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Originally Posted by davee70 View Post

I'm sorry but I think this kind of statement borders on urban legend. My experience has shown that from an audio perspective, upgrading any component in the chain upgrades the system as a whole and is easily perceived. I got my 95 to replace a Denon 2900 universal before upgrading my electronics from a solid but old stereo receiver to a Parasound P7 pre and A51 amp combo and I could easily hear the difference. My room is "untreated."


The Parasound products you mention really work well together. I have the P7 and A21 and still am impressed by what they've done for my system. I run vinyl through the P7's phono stage most days and it's very nice. I still use an Oppo 83 for my digital music and regardless of all the model changes, the 83 can make music from it's stereo outs; just have to feed it a good recording. Today that was Deen Peer's "Airborne"; a very impressive HDCD.
post #8951 of 10417
Quote:
Originally Posted by davee70 View Post

I'm sorry but I think this kind of statement borders on urban legend. My experience has shown that from an audio perspective, upgrading any component in the chain upgrades the system as a whole and is easily perceived. I got my 95 to replace a Denon 2900 universal before upgrading my electronics from a solid but old stereo receiver to a Parasound P7 pre and A51 amp combo and I could easily hear the difference. My room is "untreated."

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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ At some point your ability to hear improvement has to be limited by the weakest link in your audio chain.
For example, if your speakers are broken, it really doesn't matter how much you spend on your electronics, cables, power cords, etc.
The trick is to get it to the point where the weakest link is your own hearing -- at a price you can afford.
The analog outputs of the 93 are no slouch. So the question is, if you upgrade the analog to that in the 95 will the rest or your audio chain allow you to hear the improvement. Evidently yes for many people as evidenced by this thread.
Personally, I use HDMI audio myself (into my Anthem D2v).
--Bob
I think youve both made very good points.. I know Ive recently upgraded to a Integra 80.3 from a 40.2, Pioneer elite BDP to a OPPO 95 and threw in a Parasound 52 to replace some Emos that were great amps but the combination of all of the above made a huge difference way more then I expected. I thought it sounded good before but now its a whole new world of enjoyment.
post #8952 of 10417
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Originally Posted by audiophile_walt View Post

Hum and Fan noise
With my Oppo-95 plugged in, I got a distinct hum when the tv was playing cable tv content but no hum when the Oppo was playing. I tried everything; but still had to unplug the Oppo when not in use to remove the hum. I never brought this up with this forum because I was certain it was the layout. When I switched out the Comcast HDrecorder for the new Cisco cable/HD recorder this nasty hum magically went away.
The OPPO resides on top of my Cisco which generates heat. Of course it was difficult at first to tell if the fan generated the hum, so I put my old copper cased Marantz universal between the Comcast /now Cisco and the OPPO. These 3 units sit atop my CRT tv all open in a 64-74F temp room.
Since last October not once have I detected any fan noise.

Sounds a lot like a ground loop issue with the Comcast HDrecorder feeding through connecting cables and then eventualy the Oppo. Cable TV can be a leading conduit/source for ground loops/hum.
post #8953 of 10417
First of, Thanks everybody who responded and tried to help with my 22sec handshake problem!!! I was silent because @Kal Rubinson pointed me to the meridian forum and I tried to get an answer there.

I have a Oppo 95 connected to a Meridian HD621 (hdmi switch with a G61r as surround processor) and when I start a movie, the first 22seconds I don't get video/audio (possible hdmi-handshake-like problem ???). Very disturbing because I miss 22 seconds of the opening scene :-( What is Star Wars without the rolling text opening ;-)

With all the information from responses, the solution was that I had to use HDMI 2 output of the Oppo to connect to the Meridian HD621 (to het HD audio) and connect the HDMI 1 output of the Oppo directly to the kuro screen (for video only). What I still don't understand is why HDMI 1 gives this grief over HDMI 2. For example I have deep color turned on (36bit), on both outputs. When turning deep color off on HDMI 1 it shortens the time to 19 seconds but still no real solution.

My question still is, only looking at audio quality, is their any difference (even the smallest difference), between hdmi 1 and hdmi 2 output on the Oppo 95?

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Originally Posted by stieger View Post

Anybody running a Meridian 861V4, with the 621HDMI switcher + the Oppo player for doing the HD audio processing? If so, just curious how this sounds as a setup.
Thx, Stieger


@Stieger, which HDMI output do you use on the Oppo (to connect to the HD621)? After solving the 22seconds "handshake-like" problem (by using hdmi2->HD621) I am very happy with the surround sound it produces :-)
post #8954 of 10417
Just had this unit delivered last night. Unfortunately I need to wait for my new TV to try it out. My old SACD player was a junker.

Reading the manual it appears I need to pick up an external USB drive to stream movies from vudu. Is that correct?
post #8955 of 10417
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Originally Posted by NightHawk View Post

Just had this unit delivered last night. Unfortunately I need to wait for my new TV to try it out. My old SACD player was a junker.
Reading the manual it appears I need to pick up an external USB drive to stream movies from vudu. Is that correct?

Nope! you just need to activate your account if you already have one or create one, I believe the unit comes with one free movie from Vudu upon activation smile.gif
post #8956 of 10417
Cool, thanks
post #8957 of 10417
Hey guys. Someone recently told me that the newest firmware does not allow Blu-Ray Isos to be played. I'm not sure if they were referring to an Iso file or a Blu-Ray Iso burned to a Blu-Ray R using a program like ImgBurn. What is the case here? Does this also apply to SACD Isos being burnt to DVD-Rs not playable with the newest firmware?

I was reading above about the USB port for external storage not being Async. Does this really matter for just file reading?
post #8958 of 10417
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Originally Posted by MattMan657 View Post

Hey guys. Someone recently told me that the newest firmware does not allow Blu-Ray Isos to be played. I'm not sure if they were referring to an Iso file or a Blu-Ray Iso burned to a Blu-Ray R using a program like ImgBurn. What is the case here? Does this also apply to SACD Isos being burnt to DVD-Rs not playable with the newest firmware?

ISO files on storage devices connected to the USB and e-SATA ports are no longer supported. ISO's burned to a Bluray disc should still work as they are essentially the same as a commercial Bluray.
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I was reading above about the USB port for external storage not being Async. Does this really matter for just file reading?

No, it doesn't matter for reading files. It only matters if the USB port is an audio device that would appear as a sound playback device on your PC.
post #8959 of 10417
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Originally Posted by rairwave View Post

. . . .

My question still is, only looking at audio quality, is their any difference (even the smallest difference), between hdmi 1 and hdmi 2 output on the Oppo 95?

. . . .

HDMI 2 carries the same audio as when using only HDMI 1, both for formats, quality, and flexibility.

If BOTH HDMI 1 and HDMI 2 are active, then audio on HDMI 1 is limited to a stereo down-mix, while HDMI 2 carries the full range of audio options.
--Bob
post #8960 of 10417
How's this for a loaded question: How big a an audible difference should there be between a high-resolution stereo audio source (SACD and Blu-ray Audio) and a regular old CD when played through the BDP-95 over HDMI?

The reason I ask is I just picked up my first SACD and Blu-ray Audio discs, and I'm curious what I should be expecting.

Way back in the day, I was a pretty serious "analogue" audiophile with a killer vinyl-based system (VPI TNT turntable, SME V tone-arm, Classe electronics, and Maggie speakers), and I appreciated the differences between records and recordings. But in a digital world, I'm far less comfortable.

- JD
post #8961 of 10417
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

HDMI 2 carries the same audio as when using only HDMI 1, both for formats, quality, and flexibility.
If BOTH HDMI 1 and HDMI 2 are active, then audio on HDMI 1 is limited to a stereo down-mix, while HDMI 2 carries the full range of audio options.
--Bob

Thanks Bob, that is what I wanted to learn. smile.gif
post #8962 of 10417
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Originally Posted by jd_alpha View Post

How's this for a loaded question: How big a an audible difference should there be between a high-resolution stereo audio source (SACD and Blu-ray Audio) and a regular old CD when played through the BDP-95 over HDMI?
The reason I ask is I just picked up my first SACD and Blu-ray Audio discs, and I'm curious what I should be expecting.
Way back in the day, I was a pretty serious "analogue" audiophile with a killer vinyl-based system (VPI TNT turntable, SME V tone-arm, Classe electronics, and Maggie speakers), and I appreciated the differences between records and recordings. But in a digital world, I'm far less comfortable.
- JD

Heavily loaded question. I have a BDP-83 and a set of reasonably respectable SACD/DVD-A studio recordings, / Bluray and HD-DVD (Toshiba HD-A35 for this one) concert collection. One plus is the ability to do multi channel sound with the DVD-A's and SACDs. This is an immediate improvement to me, since I do like the enveloping sound it creates. When done right by the sound engineers, multi channel IMO shines. Some examples for me of extremely good multi channel recordings: Heart's HD-DVD concert, Nora Jones SACD, The Beatles 'LOVE' DVD-A, Adele's Bluray concert, Puccini's La Boheme (Angel Gheorghiu, et.al.), Santana's Shaman DVD-Audio, Dire Straits Brothers in Arms SACD, Jeff Beck at Ronnie Scott's Bluray, Tito Puente 'Goza mi timbal' SACD, Diana Krall 'Live in Paris' bluray, Return to Forever Live at Montreux Bluray, Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon SACD. All were purchased after I got the '83 and all get good airplay on my system.

Are they better than the two channel stereo CD's? Definitely in my view (just gave you a loaded answer), but that is very subjective. One thing that getting a highly capable player and multichannel setup is that it has reignited my two channel collection. I have added a good number of two channel jazz / classical SACDs to listen to, as well as good two channel 'normal' CDs (In the wee small hours- Frank Sinatra, Mediterraneo - Joan Manuel Serrat). Overall I find I listen to music a lot more than I did. I even resuscitated my vinyl collection (about 50 records) and bought two new ones (King James Version - Harry James Orchestra, Classical Guitars of the Indios Tabajaras).

So to me there's no real competition, just expands the ability to get good stuff as is available on each media type. I do like the multi channel stuff, including regular concert DVD's and lossy DTS recordings.
post #8963 of 10417
my AVR has a sleep timer on it. It would be nice if the 95 also could have one incorporated into it to autamatically turn off as it is also a media audio player.
post #8964 of 10417
I am posting this in all the Oppo threads because I want to make sure everyone is notified so they can contribute. Please let me know (and provide a working one to me) if an official BDP-95 needs to be created as well. Please post any responses in the DLNA thread. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1215071



I asked the developers of PS3 Media Server, which is now called Universal Media Server smile.gif, to include the latest config files for the BDP-83 and BDP-93 in the setup process. They also included unique icons of the players that show up in the main window. cool.gif

Would the folks that use this DLNA server please test the latest version that I just compiled and verify that it is working correctly? You will need to uninstall PMS (or at least make sure it isn't running) for UMS to work. I don't own a BDP-83 so I definitely need help testing that player with UMS. I also want to make sure that the config files are optimized as best as possible. In addition, I want to make sure that the 83 is recognized correctly (I have already verified that the 93 is).

Make sure to take a look at the config files it installs closely and let me know if any changes need to be made to either config file.

In the end it will be nice to not have to do anything other than install the program for us Oppo owners.

Here is the link to my latest build:

http://www.4shared.com/file/ARQJ03nN/UMS-setup.html
Edited by counsil - 6/8/12 at 12:23am
post #8965 of 10417
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Originally Posted by manoharshetty9 View Post

my AVR has a sleep timer on it. It would be nice if the 95 also could have one incorporated into it to autamatically turn off as it is also a media audio player.
There is a thread for suggestions about new features directed to OPPO. That's probably where you should post your suggestion.
post #8966 of 10417
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Originally Posted by jd_alpha View Post

How's this for a loaded question: How big a an audible difference should there be between a high-resolution stereo audio source (SACD and Blu-ray Audio) and a regular old CD when played through the BDP-95 over HDMI?
The reason I ask is I just picked up my first SACD and Blu-ray Audio discs, and I'm curious what I should be expecting.
Way back in the day, I was a pretty serious "analogue" audiophile with a killer vinyl-based system (VPI TNT turntable, SME V tone-arm, Classe electronics, and Maggie speakers), and I appreciated the differences between records and recordings. But in a digital world, I'm far less comfortable.
- JD

Go over to the two channel forum, there was a raging debate there. Over there most say no difference. Quoting a Meyer's and Moran double blind listening test conducted and published. Turned out several of the test discs were actually only upsampled sacds not true hi-rez content, so there some debate. Also, one has to wonder if having to pick out which recording is hi-rez and which is not on the spot is the same as what effect it has on you over extended listening sessions. Me I'm on the fence. I do know that if I have to buy a hi-rez version to get a truly good mastered audio product without dynamic range compression, then I don't really care if many find its not audibly different to most. I'd also note that even the authors of the paper commented that the SACDs sounded really good.
post #8967 of 10417
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Originally Posted by glangford View Post

Go over to the two channel forum, there was a raging debate there. Over there most say no difference. Quoting a Meyer's and Moran double blind listening test conducted and published. Turned out several of the test discs were actually only upsampled sacds not true hi-rez content, so there is some debate. Also, one has to wonder if having to pick out which recording is hi-rez and which is not on the spot is the same as what effect it has on you over extended listening sessions. Me I'm on the fence. I do know that if I have to buy a hi-rez version to get a truly good mastered audio product without dynamic range compression, then I don't really care if many find its not audibly different to most. I'd also note that even the authors of the paper commented that the SACDs sounded really good.
post #8968 of 10417
Quick update - I got a SACD of the Pixies "Doolittle" album (I know I was surprised their would be a SACD of this too!). I was listening to the disc last night and the Oppo 95 said it was stereo -- I had set my AVR (Pioneer Elite SC-57) to "pure direct" mode, which I believe is a straight pass-through mode essentially in terms of processing -- but I was getting output from my subwoofer?

All my electronics are pretty new and I'm still getting used to them, but has anyone found "mistakes" in terms of stuff being labelled or identified as 2.0 instead of 2.1, etc. I'm not blaming the Oppo or anything - I just want to know in general terms how accurately stuff is lablelled by the publishers and identified by the gear.

FWIW, the SACD sounded really good even with the limitations of the original recording. The soundstage/imaging seemed to collapse at lower volumes but improved at higher levels. I'll have to dig up my old copy of the original CD and try to compare them.

Oh - and just so you don't think I'm a complete Troglodyte, I also picked up a SACD with all of Beethoven's symphonies!

- JD
post #8969 of 10417
Thread Starter 
If you are using the analog outputs and SACD is set to PCM (not DSD) and your speakers are set to SMALL (Audio Processing->Speaker Configuration) then the player will be performing bass management, which will result in a subwoofer signal being produced.
post #8970 of 10417
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post


A European hi-fi magazine, in a review of the BDP-95EU (European version) player a couple months back, made a statement that Android and iOS control apps were coming "this summer", which would imply IP control.


So far there has been no confirmation of that one report, so take it for what it's worth. If this feature is important to you, it would be best to wait until it actually happens.

--Bob

I asked OPPO the very same question and here is their response....

Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 5:00 PM
To: OPPO Service
Subject: BDP95 IP control

Hello,

The latest review of the OPPO BDP95 in HiFi News from the UK talks about an Android/ iOS app being in the works for the BDP-95EU. They touted the release as Summer of 2012. I'm assuming that this is also for the US model. Will this be in the form of a firmware update and will it be free. Also, would you be able to comment on when it will be available.

Thanks,


Any IP Control we add to the player will be through a firmware release for the player as well as the application itself. Unfortunately at this time we do not know when any IP Control may be added to the player.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
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