The Official Silver Fire V.2 Thread. - Page 31

Currently have the 2.0 to get better blacks with the panasonic would I go to 5.0? Total light control
room. I want to go as dark as possible and still have enough lumens.

I agree with your logic but calibrated lumens in best mode is less than 600 same as the JVC RS2 I replaced and 2.0 was just right for 600 lumens the Panasonic is 950 lumens
in best mode so I am thinking 5.0 is correct but want to make sure before I reshoot the screen.

OK, so I've been calling around local areas for Sintra, and the best prices I can find are:
$31 for 3mm x 4' x 8'
$80 for 6mm x 4' x 8'

I've read on these forums about the 3mm possibly being a problem due to it's being almost too flexible, but would that be a problem for about a 95" diag. (47" x 83") screen? $50 is quite a difference.

Hmm, what if I already bought the materials for the frame? I was going to build that first. Would 3mm work? I've been modeling mine after this: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1303114/amazing-grace-theater-build

Good evening fellow SF enthusiasts! I have a quick question...I have a screen that I did back in July. It's a 3.0 mix on the Menards white melamine board and I LOVE it! It's funny that after a few months it feels as if it looks even better each time I use it. I was wondering, however, what the best way to clean the screen is. It's not that it's really in need of cleaning but I know that my old plasma that sat in roughly the same location needed to be dusted at least once a month. The surface isn't rough at all but I'm worried that whatever I do use may leave lint or something. What's everyone else use?

Excellent, then I will do that. $80 sounds reasonable compared to the other prices I'm seeing posted here. Guess I was hoping for way too low.

Which caulk would you recommend? I've checked and there are like a dozen different kinds, and even with Liquid Nails there's lots of different strengths.

EDIT: Nevermind, I see you've already made lots of suggestions in this thread on what to do with exactly the setup I'm doing. This post seems to answer my questions.
Edited by Pessimus - 10/10/12 at 12:59pm

OK, this freakin sucks. I was just getting everything ready tonight to build and paint the screen and everything tomorrow (picking up the sintra tomorrow), covered everything I could, and when I was prepping the spray gun, I can't find the stupid plastic tool that comes with it that removes the needle assembly. The item is in the parts list in the manual, so it should be included. Everything else is.

Does ANYONE know of any other way to take it apart? Anything I can stick in there to unscrew it? Do they sell the stupid little retarded thing at Lowes? I don't see it on their website. This is just so damn frustrating. I should have just bought a screen with all these frustrations. I got this Graco 2900 off of ebay refurbished. Just goes to show that even a seller with over 100,000 transactions and 99.8% rating, still may not be trustworthy. What can I do if they didn't give me the necessary parts to even clean the damn thing after using it?!
Edited by Pessimus - 10/12/12 at 8:24pm

Anyone anyone. Really don't want to waste my day tomorrow.

*sigh* OK, thanks. I ordered a 1.5mm, but it's not here yet. I guess I could still put at least the duster coats on today with the 2.0mm.

As for right now...I'm about to start building the frame.
Edited by Pessimus - 10/13/12 at 9:52am

Just got the 1.5mm in the mail from Graco...and it didn't come with the tool.

So, here is the e-mail correspondence with the company that sells the Graco on eBay.

VMInnovations response to my negative feedback for shipping an incomplete item:
My response:
I mean, really!? They are essentially holding their customer service ransom, with the ransom price being my positive feedback. That's pretty low. That calls into question EVERY eBay company if they actually get away with this crap. It undermines the entire feedback system.
Edited by Pessimus - 10/13/12 at 12:48pm

Yeah, we'll see...

So, I got the OOK French cleats (I thought I ordered Hangman; the product even says Hangman, so maybe they're the same), but I can't seem to figure out if they need to be in a stud or not. My studs are 24" apart, so these 18" things would only have the support of one stud. Other Hangman products say they can work in just drywall. I have no idea if I can ignore the studs with these or not, and, as usual when it comes to hardware and building, good detailed instructions are just not to be found. The screws are pretty coarse. Anyone know? The video supposedly showing me the instructions doesn't even apply; it shows "Easy Toggles" being drilled into the wall. This product doesn't come with easy toggles, and who knows what they even are.



Anyway, I'm calling it a day. Supposedly easy things are hard and annoying because companies can't write documentation worth a damn, and the hard-looking things are easy. Story of my life. Well, at least I got the frame built and picked up the Sintra.
Edited by Pessimus - 10/13/12 at 2:17pm

OK, it seems like lots of sites are saying that I can center the cleat on one stud and just put drywall anchors in the other holes. Guess I'll do that tonight.
Edited by Pessimus - 10/15/12 at 2:03pm

Gotcha. So there aren't actually any screws that came with it to go directly into the stud. Weird. And when you say "secure using a standard Coarse Threaded 2" Drywall Screen to a Stud", I'm going to assume you meant "screw", not "screen". The screen itself won't have any screws in it at all. It's already industrial velcroed to the frame. And yes, I got the 6mm Sintra.

Ha, yeah, I can use that thing between my ears...sometimes.

Got everything mounted, most of my plastic taped up (to protect from overspray), and I'm pretty much ready to go for tomorrow! Unfortunately, I slightly damaged the front of the Sintra. Just going to have to tolerate it. It's in the lower right corner, and you'd really have to focus on it to see it. Hmm, although...the multiple coats may take care of it anyway. That'd be nice.


It's a little high right now -- I mismeasured the height, so I'll bring the cleats down about 5 inches or so later, but this is good enough for painting.

Earlex is sending me the needle removal tool for free.

Completely edited this post from before. For those of you who might have seen this post, this is why you read the manual: "Air will continually flow through the front of the gun but no paint will be sprayed until the trigger on the spray gun is pulled." So yeah, I'm dumb. There was no air leak.
Edited by Pessimus - 10/16/12 at 9:39am

Haha, thanks. I must seem like quite the drama...king. Yeah, after the second duster I did as you said and just used water. Worked great.

And wow, from what it looks like there's going to be lots of SF leftover afterwards. Hmm...what to do with it...

Also, those who might be following me, don't be discouraged -- the screwups were my own fault so far. Make sure to practice with the gun on something. That would have helped my first coat.

UPDATE: Yup. Fourth coat now, and looking SO much better.
Edited by Pessimus - 10/16/12 at 1:27pm

I built a SF screen which I very much like and am proud of actually. I made a reply into a negative anti silver fire post on the Home Theater Shack website. I even made an offer to DIY their best formula and compare fair and square. They ended up banning me. YES they banned me for talking about it here. OK So im banned from HTS no real loss IMO. Then the keep sending me their newsletter. Ain't this enough to piss you off. I respond with a straight up cus out for them being so ignorant as to try to MARKET to a BANNED person. then they file a complaint with my ISP becuse I hurt their feelings.
They go on to say to me how terrible society is now days because of people like me.. Matter of fact I"ll cut and past their reply below:


The ISP abuse complaint is not a threat. It is very serious. A copy of this email is being sent to your ISP and you email provider. Please consider the three emails you have sent us, which are all copied below my signature, and ask yourself why any ISP or email provider should allow you to continue to have service with their organization. Your replies are email abuse to the fullest extent and no ISP or email provider should allow such conduct by their users. Surely they have policies against this kind of abuse. You should be banned from using the Internet period.

You were banned from Home Theater Shack because you broke our rules by lying and bad-mouthing us in another forum. You agreed and accepted our rules on two different occasions when you joined our forum and subscribed to our newsletter. Yet you ignored our rules. Anyone can easily go and read the threads in question and see that you lied. I will also be happy to provide the clear evidence of this violation as well. We never refused to send you any formulas... every formula we recommend is posted freely on our forum for anyone to use. The problem is (as you yourself stated) you are a "newb" and you have no idea what you are looking at. Our moderators very politely tried to explain this to you. Their have been many... (hundreds) that have created various screens that had what they thought was a "WOW" factor. "WOW" does not necessarily mean that it is accurate. Many will say that it is good enough for them, and that is fine, just as we suggested to you that if you like it well enough, that is fine... if you are satisfied with less than accurate. Yet "WOW" does NOT always mean accurate... there can be a clear difference and it takes a keen eye to see the difference. You have a choice to learn what is accurate or ignore it. There was no reason for you to get defensive about it and go to another forum and bad mouth us with your lies. It was very disrespectful and it is a clear violation of our rules.

47 years old? Now there is a "WOW" in the extreme. So this is the disrespectful language you have learned in your 47 years of life? I am truly amazed at the kind of filthy mouthed immature people that litter up our society today. It is truly ashamed that a grown man cannot communicate with any more respect than what you have shown. I am not sure what you intend to accomplish with that language because it is only an embarrassment to yourself and your family.

Our newsletter campaign is handled by a separate entity than our forum, therefore when we ban someone from our forum, their email address is not automatically deleted from the newsletter database. If you no longer wish to receive the newsletter, you simply click the Unsubscribe link and you are removed. The emails and foul mouthed language is not necessary. All you had to do was unsubscribe and move on about your life.

You have been removed from our newsletter database. Your email address has been added to our blocked list so that we do not have to continue to absorb your abuse.

Regards,

Sonnie Parker
Home Theater Shack

Did I bad mouth them, I don't think so. Will I bad mouth them? YES any chance I get.

Sometimes it's hard to get the facts, especially when there are so many conflicting points. I've checked out some of the stuff on HTS about Black Widow, SF, etc. before, as well as here. Without knowing anyone personally (face to face) on either forum, I simply went with what I was looking for: about a 1.0 gain, gray screen. The best candidate for that seemed to be SF. It was simply a deduction for me. I don't like to get into nasty stuff on forums. I have a family member that has wasted much of their time with online drama, and they've learned (and I through them) that it's just not worth it. Glean what facts you can, and be done with it. If the "facts" are right, then great; if they're not, then you'll know when push comes to shove.

Five coats on and lookin' great. Once this one dries I'll put a final coat on for good measure. Pictures to follow tonight or tomorrow night.

Hi all, i have a jvc rs45
room is 16x13, so factoring the projectors size that will leave me a throw of 14.5

On the projectorcentral calculator i can get it up to 120x68 16:9 with 1.9 zoom and 1.2 gain and I'm in the green part.

Whats the maximum screen i can have? Is 120x68 too big?

Walls are dark red if that matters, mainly watching movies at night, so it will be pretty dark.

If 120x68 is the max what mix would you suggest?