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post #151 of 840
I will throw my two cents in. I hate hate hate that they cut the Vegas rounds to one two hour show. Maybe there wasn't as much drama this year, but I love watching the cut from hundreds to a few. I am glad they decided to switch up the green mile episode as they are normally boring. However, I do wonder if they threw too much at the kids at one time. Not only did they do the three routines for tonight's show you have to figure they still have to practice for next week's show. This seems like a final week show schedule during the first week.

I wonder how well those who did not get profiled do during the season. Without a doubt the bottom will be the kids who never got airtime besides standing in the background. It is such a disadvantage for those contestants. Hopefully, they will apply some not so random selections with the dance styles.

The routine Sonya cooked up for the girls was great.
post #152 of 840
[quote=spid;20553406However, I do wonder if they threw too much at the kids at one time. Not only did they do the three routines for tonight's show you have to figure they still have to practice for next week's show.
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I wondered the same thing. But I figured that there was probably several weeks between the time that the top 20 were announced until this show was recorded, so they probably had enough time to learn all 3 routines.
post #153 of 840
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Attending college classes is extremely different then doing something professionally for a living. If you worked in a factory on an assembly line, it would be impractical for you to also perform surgeries. Going to school to get an education is not the same as doing what you do best in a career.

I don't follow this logic. My college analogy related to this show by virtue that everything within it is in the same genre, i.e. dance. Your factory-to-surgery point doesn't have to do with each other and so escapes the logic of this argument. My analogy was trying to show that, as a chemistry major, I still had to take Physical Chemistry even though I'd never use that info again (and thank goodness!). But to make me a WELL ROUNDED chemist, I needed to take it. In the same way, this show is about an ALL AROUND dancer, not a speciality dancer who, for example, can only do the Irish dance or whacking (haha) really well.

Anyway, the point is, you're asking the show to be something it wasn't designed for. I'm sure there are competitions out there for "best/favorite Irish dancer", but this isn't it.
post #154 of 840
I guess there aren't rules barring professionals from the competition as Iveta has won championships for professionals. On her website she lists her credentials as
*2X World Professional Ten Dance Champion 2008-2009
*3X US National Ten Dance Champion 2007-2009
*3X US North American Ten Dance Champion 2007-2009
*2X US National Classical Showdance Champion 2008-2009
*World Classical Showdance Finalist 2006

(she has about a dozen videos on YouTube including one at a competition using the same Chicago tune she used in her SYTYCD final audition, which show her skill level as extraordinary)

In her specialty(s) she has to be intimidating to the other dancers. Alex, and Danny before him, were professional ballet dancers, but their specialty is not among the dance forms in the competition. I would call her a man among boys, but obviously she ain't no man although my wife swears she can't be under 31 either.

The theme of the show is "America's favorite dancer," not "America's favorite amateur dancer," so, I can see where the disparity is O.K., and I love watching the thrilling display of talent Iveta exhibits, but there seems something uneven about her entry. I wonder if that is why she wasn't put through last year?
post #155 of 840
I think we had a similar debate about professional vs. amateur a season or two ago when a "street" guy won who had actually turned out to have quite a bit of training. His name just escapes me....gah!

Then there's Alex who, by the way, Nigel said on Twitter has not recovered 100% but could possibly be so by the time All-Stars are brought in.

I see no reason to exclude. Trained talent, raw talent....let's find our favorite! Right?
post #156 of 840
The discussion about Russel was not that he had attended years in the best Boston performing arts high school, but that SYTYCD concealed that fact in favor of a perception that he wandered in off the street and suddenly picked up his wide range of dancing skills while competing to the constant feigned amazement of the judges who had to know the real history. There was a feeling the voters were duped to the tune of Nigel's ballyhoo.

It is usual that contestants have years of training, but not professional stage experience.
post #157 of 840
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I think we had a similar debate about professional vs. amateur a season or two ago when a "street" guy won who had actually turned out to have quite a bit of training. His name just escapes me....gah!

Joshua?
post #158 of 840
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The discussion about Russel was not that he had attended years in the best Boston performing arts high school, but that SYTYCD concealed that fact in favor of a perception that he wandered in off the street and suddenly picked up his wide range of dancing skills while competing to the constant feigned amazement of the judges who had to know the real history. There was a feeling the voters were duped to the tune of Nigel's ballyhoo.

It is usual that contestants have years of training, but not professional stage experience.
EXACTLY in the case of Russell, Distorted. I felt the entire viewing audience was downright misled and BETRAYED by Nigel, et al, in HIS case.

As for the debate over whether already-accomplished PROFESSIONAL dancers can compete, WELL, there's no rule against it. If there WERE, neither Alex NOR Melissa would have been able to compete, as BOTH were principal performers in local municipal ballet companies... Others, such as Billy Bell and Robert from last year, had just COMPLETED jobs dancing in shows either on, or just OFF Broadway when they were notified of whether or not they "made the cut." MANY of the dancers who audition for this show are working "professionally" at SOME level.

In Iveta's case, I just spent quite a few minutes at her website, watching SOME of her videos, and looking at a few of the pictures and reading the awards later posted by you, Distorted. (I had NO IDEA she was a world champion in ballroom, either -- much less a "ten-dance" champion -- didn't even know such a thing existed -- until Mary said so -- I just knew that was her specialty and she was VERY GOOD at it). My personal opinion is that on every ballroom dance she performs, assuming she has a partner who can keep up, she should KILL. It also looked like she did better than I'd expected in the OTHER genres (even hip hop) in Las Vegas. However, she's MIGHTY thin and doesn't seem to have the upper-leg musculature many female pro dancers have. She may not need that for ballroom, but I'm wondering if it might hurt her a bit with some of the other styles -- if not in her ability to perform, then in how it LOOKS aesthetically, since as pretty as she is, in certain dance poses, she can look a bit awkward, I think, with her long, thin legs and very thin upper frame.

Again, that said, I'm eager to see how far she can get, and hope it's at least to the Top 10. I'm just noting some personal observations. If past rules apply, however, the JUDGES will make the final decisions until Top 10, so if she's in Bottom 3 or 2 up until then due to low audience votes, she may be saved.

One thing that CONTINUES to AMAZE ME every single year is the OVERWHELMING number of Top 20 dancers picked who are JUST 18 (and a few who are 19). It's usually QUITE RARE to have more than a handful beyond 20! I don't know if most of the REALLY GREAT TALENT is just either gainfully employed and "out of the running" by those ages, or what, but look back at previous years. I WAS going to "give a score" for this year, but so far the only "bios" they have up for the Top 20 don't even include photos, much less their ages. At least TWO said they were seniors in high school or freshmen in college, but there were SEVERAL that indicated they'd been out for at least a few years, so there may be more than a few in the mid-20s this year. I know "the Mallory sister," can't think of her first name, is 23. I was also quite surprised to read in the bios in the "what are people usually surprised to learn about you" section when Iveta said she USED TO BE 30 pounds heavier! Seems to me she could use at least A FEW of those pounds NOW, lol.

Truthfully, it IS hard to say how good of a season it will be based SOLELY on what we saw last week. BUT, it still looks promising to me. As for the dancers who got little to NO "face time" in the audition or Las Vegas rounds NOT be "favorites" or ones likely to go far... I wouldn't think that way. Based on what I've seen the past 4 seasons, there have been several contestants who were "invisible" until they made the Top 20 and yet went pretty far in the competition (please don't ask me to name any, but I'm certain there have been).
Jeff
post #159 of 840
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I think we had a similar debate about professional vs. amateur a season or two ago when a "street" guy won who had actually turned out to have quite a bit of training. His name just escapes me....gah!

Then there's Alex who, by the way, Nigel said on Twitter has not recovered 100% but could possibly be so by the time All-Stars are brought in.

I see no reason to exclude. Trained talent, raw talent....let's find our favorite! Right?

When he was on the show, Twitch was already a professional, having appeared in the movie Hairspray (which created a possible conflict of interest for Adam who directed it) and danced and choreographed in Asia. Pasha and Anya were, I believe, were on the professional ballroom circuit and Alex was a principal dancer with the Miami Ballet company. There have been, I'm sure, a number of other contestants who were already working professionally in one genre of dancing or another.
post #160 of 840
This is much like the American Idol argument where some fans of the show believe every contestant must be someone who sang for change at coffee shops or at karaoke bars before the show "discovered" them and made them famous. If that weren't true, the show would have washed up one-hit wonders trying out to revive their careers before they hit the age cutoff.
post #161 of 840
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When he was on the show, Twitch was already a professional, having appeared in the movie Hairspray (which created a possible conflict of interest for Adam who directed it)...

I hadn't known that. That is so strange inasmuch as Debbie Allan was kept off the judges panel that season until her student Will Wingfield was eliminated. I guess that having once briefly worked for a judge is considered less of an unfair advantage than being one of a judge's favorite students.
post #162 of 840
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Yeah. Even though I had seen "Hairspray" prior to Season 4 (at least I'm pretty sure I had), I didn't remember/recognize Steven "Twitch" Boss from the movie and had no idea he'd been in it until later on, when it was pointed out. Sort of like Russell, I was under the impression he was essentially a "street dancer" (or at least primarily a hip hop dancer) who just had SO MUCH talent he wowed the judges into being on the show. BUT, they didn't MAKE THE CASE for Twitch like they did for Russell, and I LIKE Twitch, and think I always will. I like Russell, too, BUT I DON'T like the way he was presented, at all.

All the same, I don't recall if Adam was judging when Twitch was on Season 4, or not, but if he was that was a DEFINITE double-standard, I think, since Debbi Allen couldn't judge as long as Will Wingfield was in the competition. I KNOW someone being your student (not only a student, but Will was a sort of "project" for Debbi, I think) is quite different from someone just being a dancer you recently directed and choreographed in a hit movie. But at least THE APPEARANCE of bias would still seem to be there.

Oh well, ALL of this stuff is ALWAYS going to be subjective beyond a certain level, so I guess it "all comes out in the wash," anyway. I mean, how many times have we seen one judge HATE a performance only to have one or more others LOVE it? Sometimes they even critique the exact same steps or elements oppositely. Right is right and left is left, but beyond that, so many things in "art" are subjective that there's ALWAYS going to be "wiggle room" for anyone "with credentials" to have any number of "legitimate reasons" to like or not like a particular peformance.

That's just "life," and it's also why it's good there are more than one judge, and also an ODD number.
Jeff

Ooooh, I forgot to mention... I was just looking through the latest edition of Entertainment Weekly that came out last Friday last night, and SYTYCD KILLED in the ratings last week (the week of 5/31 - 6/5), coming in 9 & 10, respectively, for the Wednesday and Thursday shows, with 8.7 and 8.6 Million viewers -- and THAT was with THREE of the top FOUR ratings going to NBA Finals. Of course the other two in the Top Five went to "America's Got Talent" and "The Voice" (it figures), and the rest of the top 10 was ALL RE-RUNS -- both "NCIS" shows -- GEESH those are popular -- I watch too, but NOT the re-runs, a re-run of "The Mentalist," and a re-run of "60 Minutes." STILL, 8.6 million or more viewers is REGULAR SEASON great ratings these days and likely explains WHY this show tried its fall DISASTER for Season Six (if summer ratings were like this early in Season 5 -- I can't recall, and don't know how to look back that far).

At any rate, if ratings were THAT GOOD for AUDITION SHOWS -- that wasn't even VEGAS! Perhaps this show will be in the Top 10 this summer!
post #163 of 840
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When he was on the show, Twitch was already a professional, having appeared in the movie Hairspray (which created a possible conflict of interest for Adam who directed it) and danced and choreographed in Asia. Pasha and Anya were, I believe, were on the professional ballroom circuit and Alex was a principal dancer with the Miami Ballet company. There have been, I'm sure, a number of other contestants who were already working professionally in one genre of dancing or another.

There's also been a few contestants that were paid choreographers assistants. In fact, IIRC, this season's Ryan was working as a paid assistant. I also thought Legacy was an assistant but I'm not seeing that in his bio, however, his bio does say that he was in the film Stomp The Yard (2007) and toured with Gwen Stanfani. The film was prior to his SYTYCD appearance in 2009 not sure about the tour.

And then there was Paula V. who turned down a spot in the top 20 to do a film.

And didn't they mention that the broadway guy this season has already done some work?
post #164 of 840
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...I don't recall if Adam was judging when Twitch was on Season 4, or not, but if he was that was a DEFINITE double-standard, I think, since Debbi Allen couldn't judge as long as Will Wingfield was in the competition. I KNOW someone being your student (not only a student, but Will was a sort of "project" for Debbi, I think) is quite different from someone just being a dancer you recently directed and choreographed in a hit movie. But at least THE APPEARANCE of bias would still seem to be there.

According to the Wikipedia article on Season 4, Adam was a guest judge twice that season. I've seen "making of" clips from Hairspray and Twitch might never have worked directly with Shankman. Though no doubt Shankman created most of it, a lot of teaching and drilling the dancers on the choreography was done but his assistants. I'm sure that Debbie Allen was an order of magnitude more involved with Will.
post #165 of 840
I would like to see them replace Mary Murphy though. She has the most annoying high pitched voice. At least she has toned down her equally annoying laugh. I imagine the TV station got tons of complaints about it.
post #166 of 840
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Some thoughts/notes about tonight's show (I didn't start my notes until after the second dance, so I don't have style and choreographer info in the first two or three)...

First dance Jordan and Tadd -- Technical: 9 or so... Artistic: 8 or so: Connection to the performance? 5??? -- Looked to me like they were "going through the motions" of the dance.

Second dance: Sasha and Alexander -- I disagree with judges about their "connection": 9 -- Technical -- 9 -- Artistic 9

Third dance: Clarice and Jess -- the broadway boy got BROADWAY -- GO FIGURE, lol! Easy 9s across the board, I think...

Fourth dance: Ryan and Ricky -- Lyrical Hip Hop, choreographed by Christopher Stark... 9, 9, 7 or 8, maybe, on the "connection", since I, too, had a problem with Ryan's out-of-place smiles.

Fifth dance: Caitlynn and Mitchell -- Jazz choreographed by Sonya... (Mitchell replaced for the night by Robert Roldan from Season 7 due to elbow injury in rehearsal) -- Excellent performance by Caitlynn (senior in high school?!? -- WELL, her profile says she'll both graduate high school AND achieve an associate's degree SIMULTANEOUSLY this month, so... not too shabby for 18)) Nigel said "that was 10 across the board!" Who am I to disagree??? It was certainly SONYA HOT!!!

Sixth dance: Miranda and Wooo-Man Robert (she said her DREAM dance partner is Robert Roldan, because "he's ALWAYS THERE for his partner" -- she missed that by ONE dance tonight, lol) -- Latin, Jason Glikinson... They tried hard, but I think that's a BOTTOM THREE -- SHE had one earring FLY OFF during her first heavy movement... Standing Ovation, but I don't see it... lots of movement, but it was sort of like they were "fighting" to keep up with both the music AND the choreography. They still looked like they were having fun. 7, 8, 9 -- that's how I see it.

Seventh dance: Missy and Wadi -- Jazz by Sean Cheesman... KILLER! "The dancers are inspiring the choreographers to do better and better work, and Sean Cheesman, this is the best work I think I've ever seen you do!" Nigel. 10,10,10 (choreography/er likely helped a GREAT DEAL!)

Eigth dance: Melanie and Marko -- Contemporary by Travis Wall... 9,10,10 "It's the first week, and this could possibly be the first Emmy-nominated routine! As Mary said, the chemistry between Melanie and Marko is fantastic... There were a couple of times where it wasn't exactly 'perfect,' but that's why I liked it, because if it was, there's nowhere to go... Melanie, I think you're 'the Queen Bee.'" -- best girl dancer, possibly EVER! (Don't know if I'd go that far, yet -- glad Nigel validated my reasons for giving them a 9 in Technical -- just a few minor "bobbles" I noticed -- mostly when they were together, during transitions and stuff).

Ninth dance: Ashley and Chris -- Hip Hop by Christopher Scott... Missed the second half of the dance and the judges' critiques due to satellite issues -- jumped straight into a commercial (had started late and was watching DVR-delayed) -- storms in the area -- what I DID see looked a bit WEAK, weakest of the night, I thought.

Tenth dance: Iveta and Nick "Ballroom Blitz" by Jason Glikinson... And ONCE AGAIN a SPECIALIST gets her field (lucky break???) Whatever. I LOVED IT! (Nick's the tap dancer). Quick Step -- "dance of death on this show," as Nigel just said, but two better dancers couldn't have gotten it! Lucky break, or not... 10, 10, 10.

Final notes... As I said LAST WEEK, I'm MORE glad I'm NOT a judge on the show THIS season than any yet, because the overall level is higher and at least with this first week there wasn't MUCH to find fault with. Based on what of Ashley and Chris' dance I DID see, I felt they were the weakest pair of the night, but since I didn't get to see the rest of it, or ANY of the criticism, I have no idea if they "pulled it out" (don't really think so, though, based on how I've seen Nigel critique hip hop in the past -- it didn't look nearly "buck" enough, to borrow a phrase from Li'l C).

HOWEVER, if those two don't end up in the Bottom 3 couples, I have NO IDEA who's going home. If they DO, I would suspect it's them.

I was reading dancer bios during the show (well, during commercials), and ALMOST ALL of the older ones are teaching dance and/or working professionally. Now that they actually have their ages posted, I counted 9 out of 20 at either 18 or 19, with several more at age 20, and even many of THOSE already have a professional resume of some extent. The website is ALSO pretty rough, however. It's pretty obvious whoever put it together did a RUSH JOB since last week and that there's no EDITOR to double-check things, such as where they have Jeanine Mason listed as being from Season 1. Also (and I just tried this with ONE dancer, so far), they have "wallpaper" pictures of each dancer available for download in the various sizes. The only problem was, when you clicked on the link for ONE SIZE, you'd get A DIFFERENT SIZE (one of the sizes wasn't even available -- at least on that page -- two of the links went to the same sized picture), and only ONE of the links actually went to the sized picture it was SUPPOSED to. SLOPPY! I expect WAY MORE from a professional website for a professional show on a major TV network. (Trust me, they're going to get DIRECT feedback about this, too, lol).

At least the SHOW's great, so far!
I can't wait to see what the results are tomorrow!

Oh, one more thing. Anybody else try voting online??? I've clicked the link only... maybe... 100 times, or so... EVERY SINGLE TIME I get the FOLLOWING message:
THE SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING A HIGH VOLUME OF ACTIVITY.

SORRY! YOUR VOTE WAS NOT SUBMITTED
PLEASE GIVE IT A MINUTE AND TRY AGAIN.


Note: I've been doing this for the past 2:40 minutes, roughly... Not continuously, but every few minutes I'll click the "VOTE" button and wait while it "attempts to contact Facebook" (the idiotic method they chose to require for voting -- can't vote without a Facebook account -- I actually OPENED my Facebook link after the first few tries, just to see if that would help -- it didn't). You can vote online up until two hours after the airing ends in Hawaii -- whenever THAT is. I'm betting that even if I stay up THAT LATE (probably NOT tonight) I'll NEVER get an internet vote through! Well, at least I got a few phone votes through for Teams 7, 8 and 10.

If they're going to DO SOMETHING, why not DO IT RIGHT?!?
Jeff
post #167 of 840
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Final notes... As I said LAST WEEK, I'm MORE glad I'm NOT a judge on the show THIS season than any yet, because the overall level is higher and at least with this first week there wasn't MUCH to find fault with. ...
Jeff

I'll second that. Unfortunately eliminations this season will probably be more a result of weak choreography than of weak dancing.


I hope that somewhat-weak jive doesn't get Miranda eliminated.

Gotta hand it to Nick, he did as good a job as I've seen on this show of a non-ballroom dancer properly doing the upper and lower body isolation and the non-bouncing glide of the Quickstep.

Man does Sasha ever sweat a lot.

Travis Wall continues to churn out the most amazing choreography. Hope he doesn't burn out before the Emmy committee finally decides it's "his turn" to get an Emmy.
post #168 of 840
Oh, BTW, I thought I saw Kent working as an assistant in one of those packages. I'll have to go back through it again and see if I can tell if it was him or not.
post #169 of 840
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Oh, BTW, I thought I saw Kent working as an assistant in one of those packages. I'll have to go back through it again and see if I can tell if it was him or not.

Yes, it was Kent. He helped Tyce on the broadway piece. My wife caught it and made me back up the DVR to double-check.
post #170 of 840
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Gotta hand it to Nick, he did as good a job as I've seen on this show of a non-ballroom dancer properly doing the upper and lower body isolation and the non-bouncing glide of the Quickstep.

I think that the hardest thing with that dance is to maintain that strict form and still look casual, carefree and like you're having fun and they pulled it off. Most everyone else looks like they're dancing with a broomstick up their butts.

Good show overall. I probably enjoyed Melanie & Marko most, Sasha & Alexander second. I had the least fun watching Jordan & Tadd. It can't be easy performing the first dance of the competition. Ashley & Chris' hip-hop was okay (I was impressed by her cradling him in her arms for a few seconds before dumping him on the floor--strong little snip of a girl ). I think that they were cursed with choreography of indifferent quality.

Cheesman's routine was good, but it felt a bit like a Sonya Tayeh bit.

All in all a really good first sho .
post #171 of 840
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Oh, BTW, I thought I saw Kent working as an assistant in one of those packages. I'll have to go back through it again and see if I can tell if it was him or not.

I also saw Ryan and Ashliegh from a couple seasons ago assissting for the Latin dance.

Long post, Jeff, but I agree with your comments. Especially that the choreography might get people voted off moreso than the dancers. Usually in the first week there is at least one bad performance, but thye were all pretty good tonight. I think the Latin (that's what they called it, I would have said Jive otherwise) was the weakest for me.

It was nice that the quickstep "of death" didn't seem to be so tonight. I'm guessing they gave that to them mostly as proof to the audience that it could be done well.

I miss Wade Robson as a choreographer on the show. We haven't seen much of him since the judges critiqued his "starry night" dance a few seasons ago. I hope he didn't take that too personally.
post #172 of 840
Nobody mentioned Cat? OK I'll say it, man she looked smokin' hot last night looked like she was dressed for a night on the town! And I agree about the dancing, great show, it will be interesting to see who will be in danger, nobody really had a bad number.
post #173 of 840
With so many teams it really pays to stand out from the pack. No one was really bad, but there were a couple of mediocre routines and/or performances. I thought both hip hop routines were lackluster. The first looked rather spastic which could have been the dancers or just how it was choreographed. The second looked simple and lacked the punch emotionally to make you overlook that simplicity.

Robert Taylor is easily the biggest performer of the group. His charisma made me overlook whatever flaws that were technically in the routine. Sasha Mallory did not really impress me during the auditions, but I thought she really broke out last night.

The little scamper across the box by Wadi Jones was one of the best uses of a prop in the show's history.
post #174 of 840
Impressive dancers in this group. They did an excellent job all-around with very few weak momments.
post #175 of 840
Mitchell goes to the bottom 3 (the "in danger" group) automatically since his injury prevented him from performing. If he can't do his solo, I think he's a sure bet to be gone. That's really got to suck that you get injured right before the first competitive dance and get eliminated before you can show what you can do.

If he does get eliminated, don't be surprised if he's back next season starting from Vegas. They do try to be fair, re: injuries, in this matter. Only problem might be: Alex Wong might be back also.
post #176 of 840
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Mitchell goes to the bottom 3 (the "in danger" group) automatically since his injury prevented him from performing. If he can't do his solo, I think he's a sure bet to be gone. That's really got to suck that you get injured right before the first competitive dance and get eliminated before you can show what you can do.

If he does get eliminated, don't be surprised if he's back next season starting from Vegas. They do try to be fair, re: injuries, in this matter. Only problem might be: Alex Wong might be back also.

Unless they bring Alex back as an All-Star like Nygel suggested they want to do.
post #177 of 840
Just an outstanding show last night and I have no clue as to who gets sent packing tonight. My favorites: Melanie/Marko and Ivtea/Nick. Melanie is spectular (although best ever per Nigel? Computer says "nah") and Marko, even with a couple of brief waivers was excellent. The use of lighting on their number was fabulous. Nick and Iveta's quickstep was a joy to watch and maybe not as surprising as it seemed. As a tapper, Nick obviously has very quick feet and that would be well suited to the quickstep. Iveta is, well, what more can you say about her ballroom abilites? Kent was indeed there with Katee when Tice was running through his Broadway number. It was right in Jess' wheelhouse and he killed it. I recall in the Vegas round Missy said that her job is to be "the sexy one". Well hot damn, she sure lives up to that job description I was bit curious about calling the routine by Miranda and Wooo-Man "latin". It looked more like a flat out jive to me. Anyway, this season is off to one great start!
Watching the production packages, a thought occurred to me about the process of selecting the top 20. These kids are are all, clearly, very good on camera and how they will do in these rehersal/personal packages has to be a factor in the casting process. I'm just wondering if, along with the actual dancing auditions, the contestants are put through a series of "screen tests" as well. It would make sense.
post #178 of 840
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Fourth dance: Ryan and Ricky -- Lyrical Hip Hop, choreographed by Christopher Stark... 9, 9, 7 or 8, maybe, on the "connection", since I, too, had a problem with Ryan's out-of-place smiles.

Jeff
My distinct impression from the pre-dance feature piece was that the dance represented the male partner's longing in aftermath of break-up. In that context, shown from his perspective, of course she was remembered as exuding joy, a fond (though ultimately melancholy) reflection on happy moments shared, punctuated by the recurring tugs of the re-realized loss, as by her flitting away, his sweet reverie was dashed by repeated intrusions of reality.
post #179 of 840
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My distinct impression from the pre-dance feature piece was that the dance represented the male partner's longing in aftermath of break-up. In that context, shown from his perspective, of course she was remembered as exuding joy, a fond (though ultimately melancholy) reflection on happy moments shared, punctuated by the recurring tugs of the re-realized loss, as by her flitting away, his sweet reverie was dashed by repeated intrusions of reality.
Hmmmmmmm, perhaps that should have been better explained by the choreographer, then, because neither Nigel nor I "got that." At any rate, that IS what Ryan said she was attempting to convey, but it still didn't come across "quite right" to me... I think the smiles should have, perhaps, faded more quickly, or something.

Looking forward to seeing where things fall into place tonight... With internet voting added to texting and phone voting, it's even more of a "crap shoot" than ever which three couples end up with the lowest total number of votes... Any guesses?
Jeff
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.... I'm just wondering if, along with the actual dancing auditions, the contestants are put through a series of "screen tests" as well. It would make sense.
Sure they are. That's what all those interviews by Cat and all the talking after the dance are about.
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