Battlefield 3 - Page 274

Thanks guys. I see people on all the time, but worry about disrupting the flow or something. I'll put that to the side and jump right in.

I'm not a big Rush guy, but I love CQ.

-JR

I get what you are trying to say but I really don't think there are squads of soldiers running around spamming 10 frag rounds in two seconds every chance they get.

It would be a beast in the game but then they would also have to change your soldiers abilities at handling, firing, and moving with it. The same would go with any weapon. I don't have any problem with the famas or frag rounds. The only thing I would really like them to do is reduce the effective distance of the frag rounds but I could live with them not doing it. I just wish they'd stop trying to fix the things they feel as though are balance issues and actually fix the bugs in the game.. Those days apparently are long over in gaming though.

agreed. I truly enjoy the eye candy and xtra victims...but 1) hardly anyone from avs plays on pc and 2) it takes about forever to join a game, load, the map, etc. the console version is just a much smoother experience.

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TUMULT I WANT TO PLAY WITH U. Bf3 that is. On xbox that is.

Sounds good just as soon as I return from breck. Spring break here and we had to take the kids to see the over abundance of snow in the mountains

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After reading this forum, many others and as much feedback on the patch as I can get my hands on...I'm worried. *Holds breath*

Holy Hell, that was some FUN, FUN, FUN matches tonight!!!

42-4 in the chopper!

Loved following the wall of MAVs into Metro!

P.S. America...F*@K YEAH! Damn, now that song is going to be in my head forever.

Pretty much just you.

Haha. Yeah that was hilarious. And the "he just got butt raped, and not in the good way!".

Looks like you can get in on servers with 0 people now. Good for people wanting to practice flying.

Took some shots on a tank with a smaw:

Rear - 1 shot disable. 2 shots destroy
Side - 2 disable. 3 destroy
Front - 3 disable. 4 destroy.

Takes 10 seconds to repair from half way down. Takes 5 seconds to reload the smaw.

Its not too unreasonable, just watch your ass basically. If 2-3 guys are on you, your gone, but that's how it was before. A gunner is key in these situations.

The repair is the killer here. Even if you've jumped out and are doing nothing other than repairing, since repair takes 2X longer than reload, your tank is dead, dead, dead now with ONE measly guy shooting at you. (You're likely to die as well.) Or, if you've got a gunner that has jumped out and is repairing, by the time he gets the tank to 100% (so that it can actually move without that gawd-awful grinding noise and losing health) another enemy will have likely shown up.

Should ONE guy be able to take out tanks?* Is that balanced? Fair?

*Barring actually having the balls to man-up and get your ass in there and lay C4 on it.

I agree that repair is the killer.

Knife and smoke only server. So fun.

No point to running repair tool now.

Harp, can you test the EOD bot repair? If that's unchanged, EOD bot may be the way to go...

No, I am completely with you. (I'm not familiar with the USAS in real life though.). I think the main reason I run with the USAS is because when I am using the engineer class it is one more tool to help destroy vehicles, and I am not a big fan of any of the engineer guns. I've got like 900 kills with the USAS, so I feel qualified enough to say that for all it's upside it has an equal downside. The Famas is ridiculous, but it just blows through a clip and the reload time seems long. It's range with open sights is ridiculous. Where as a sniper rifle with a medium to longer ranger scope is wonky.

I think people's opinion on the USAS can get blown out of proportion. I'm not a big fan of it, or the Famas really. Post patch I see myself using the L85 more.

I have to find an Engineer gun to use, still. Do you guys have any suggestions? Lately I have gone back to the Scar, but found I had to take off the suppressor.

not a fair comparison. also in real life guys can't look ADS in .5 secs and acquire a target, guys are not going to run head first into gunfire take 3 bullets and then shotgun someone.. in real life it is around 20,000 rounds fired for each kill (including suppression fire)... so you can't compare effectiveness in guns with people that sprint headfirst into gunfire, etc... like people do in games

Looks like I overestimated a little bit after viewing the Battlelog: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3...6/2/193240010/

Probably more like 35-2 since I forgot about taking Objective B at the end of the match. Still, not too shabby for someone that's color-blind and can't see infantry at all, and has only jumped in the gunner seat maybe 20 times ever. It was ridiculously fun and relaxing...just flying around and raping the other team without a care in the world and only the tiniest threat of actually being killed!

Now I know why guys sit and camp the choppers. Can't wait until my pilot buddy, Lok gets the ECM Jammer so we can go without the worry of ever dying at all. Maybe I could even run with Thermal Optics so I can actually see infantry then. With the new servers having more tickets, I might just be recording triple-digit kills with zero deaths very soon.

Ok lesson learned. All the echoing on my end tonight was the cable that plugs into the ear piece was loose. Caught on the couch earlier and I didn't think about it till I think it was razor pointed it out.

Target has Bad Company 2 on sale this week for $9.99. This is the Platinum Hits Edition. I believe that means you'll need to buy an online VIP code, which is $10.

Best Buy has Battlefield 3 on sale this week for $39.99.

Just fired up my xbox for my once a week gaming session and nobody on my friends list is playing BF

i'll be on in lil happy

I was planning on getting on, but I forgot I have company coming over. Maybe next week, once a week friend.

C4 star 9! Ooh!

Edit: Top 1% in C4 kills. Top guy has over 10k and nearly 900 hours of gameplay...

Congrats man! I fell victim to your c4 just now. Sorry I didn't join the party but I just stole the mobile AA and it was going to be my last game.

Least you went out with a bang!

Ran through the PDW-R this weekend. Only 150 kills to max it out, so that was quick. Good gun overall. Seem to get the drop a bit better. Uses same rounds as M16. Decent range but small clip.

Sad, the most important stat of this entire match isn't displayed on Battlelog, pushing PJ and Ell Dude's tank off of a cliff with a tank of my own...

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Bumper tanks is always fun!

Depends on which end you are on. I had a friendly tank ram my LAV through some mines I was attempting to blow up. I guess he was in a hurry. Needless to say, no one walked or drove away from that encounter.

I presume you're just exaggerating/estimating, but you can't even get off 10 rounds in 2 seconds no matter how fast your trigger finger (or with full auto). But even when you're close to that rate, the shots aren't even close to accurate or controllable. The accuracy hit the USAS takes when trying to fire it fast is one of the main reasons I don't think it's over powered, even with frag rounds.

That and the fact that the frag rounds don't even do that much damage per round. It takes 2-3 *minimum* to kill even with *direct* hits. With the recoil you need to wait between shots if you want them to be accurate, the realistic time to kill comes into reason IMO. At medium/longer range, it's 3 direct hits to kill. But let's be realistic, at longer ranges, getting direct hits on a (probably) moving target with frag rounds is not exactly easy, meaning you're relying heavily on splash damage, where you're looking at 4-5 rounds. Nearly half the thing's clip, and that's assuming pretty close hits that were accurate.

IMO someone with good aim is much more deadly with a G36C, famas, KH2002, M4A1, etc any day and will have a much better chance to pick up that kill. And with a gun like the famas, you're giving up nothing at close range. Not to mention that running the USAS and frag rounds runs out of ammo very quickly, and ammo boxes expire very quickly when refilling frag rounds.

Like I've said, I do agree that the effective range on it in the context of this game is a little high, but I don't see how anyone can argue that it is one of the most OP things in the game. Especially in this game, where it has a number of other problems (that I know the patch does/tries to address).


The G36C is pretty ridiculous. Up to about 25-30m you can run it full auto with minimal effect from recoil. And at longer ranges, you can get pretty long bursts in before the recoil is a factor. And even then, the recoil is very symmetrical and recovers quickly. Overall, I think it's one of, if not the, best engineer weapons.