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post #8671 of 14296
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Originally Posted by atlienzz View Post

Yeah I felt guilty after leaving everybody behind, but honestly I wasn't having any fun and wanted to get some CQC action on metro. Trying to unlock SKS attachments at the moment.

Let us know if you find something worth using. I've been keeping slots 2 and 3 empty and just running it with an ACOG. I'm curious if there's a benefit to any of the other attachments - thought laser might be good for hip shooting, but don't want to give my position away for mid to long range shots.

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Originally Posted by jsacevedo View Post

It does, but it decreases your accuracy at long range. It's fine on the carbines because I don't go for many long shots with those anyway. But, when I try for the longer shots with ARs with it it seems like I haven't been able to hit anything. I use the M320 or M26 most of the time when I run assault so I like to have the rail so that my switchover time is reduced.

This is exactly what my experience has been. Grip didn't seem to affect mid-to-long range shots pre-patch, but feel like I've lost some accuracy with it on AR's since. I still use it with the carbines as well - and the underslung is perfect for the quick switchover.
post #8672 of 14296
Server does auto balance but 30 seconds into a match when the other side drops off it gets lame killing three people with 200 tickets left. So you have to do some balancing or waste 20 minutes waiting. Like I said the server is a game unto itself.
post #8673 of 14296
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Originally Posted by mark_j View Post

yeah not crazy about current rotation but biggest problem might be that there are too many cooks in mph's kitchen? not sure what a good solution would be to be honest. seems like an impossible to task to keep everyone happy since we all prefer different things.

Some good cq rotations IMHO:
- metro/bazaar/siene 200% ticket
- all maps including b2k standard tickets

Oh and terms of policing why not just leave autobalance on between arounds? Just move those that want to switch to our team when a space hasn't opened up in a while (ie AVS and friends).

I only set up one rotation, mostly to see if anyone would like the lesser ticket values and with the idea of making everyone "sort of" happy...or at least not having to endure some long as Hell match in a mode they couldn't stand. It's not possible to setup a percentage of tickets per map...it applies the count to all maps, at least from what I was able to see.

200% tickets on any map is painful to me. There are tons of servers out there with 500% tickets...even on maps I like, I don't find it fun in any way. I like the variety. Plus, if you think it blows to be in a game where you're getting crushed on normal, try it for an hour.

Auto balance only goes so far. I typically try to give the other team at least one extra person, just to keep them interested and in the server. We do have some non-AVS regulars that have been dropping in on a daily basis already, so we must be doing something right.

(Or maybe it's just the fact that they're looking for nude women and like beer! I tried to get mph in a chat to see if he was OK with me adding that, since it's doubtful than anyone non-AVS knows what it means, but he was apparently busy.)
post #8674 of 14296
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Operation Metro   - Rush = 00    CQ = 01   TDM = 00   SDM = 00  
Caspian Border    - Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 01   SDM = 00
OperationFirestorm- Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Grand Bazaar      - Rush = 00    CQ = 01   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Seine Crossing    - Rush = 00    CQ = 01   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Noshahr Canals    - Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Kharg Island      - Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Tehran Highway    - Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Damavand Peak     - Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Strike at Karkand - Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 01   SDM = 00
Gulf of Oman      - Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Sharqi Peninsula  - Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Wake Island        -Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 00   SDM = 01
Okay, let's try to get some kind of count. I think it would be best if we kept our individual total number of votes as low as possible. Basically maps we can't do without, and maps we would really like to see in the rotation.

I'll start by selecting a few myself. I have noticed my map style changes and I will revisit this poll, as I think everyone should, and update my personal votes to include additional maps that I didn't realize I liked so much, or change one I have had enough of. This would allow a rolling current rotation desired list.

Please everybody vote, even if you will hardly spend time on our server. I feel this will bring better gaming to everybody. I still think avs vs. avs is where we will find the most fun.

Just quote this post and up the number by 1 unit. Like I'll put a 1 and the next guy will delete that number and put a 2, and so on.
post #8675 of 14296
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Originally Posted by mark_j View Post

yeah not crazy about current rotation but biggest problem might be that there are too many cooks in mph's kitchen? not sure what a good solution would be to be honest. seems like an impossible to task to keep everyone happy since we all prefer different things.

Some good cq rotations IMHO:
- metro/bazaar/siene 200% ticket
- all maps including b2k standard tickets

Oh and terms of policing why not just leave autobalance on between arounds? Just move those that want to switch to our team when a space hasn't opened up in a while (ie AVS and friends).

Yep.
Comes with the territory of a server. Have to decide if you want a popular server, or a server that makes you happy. The balance between there is great. However I've yet to come home at 10-11 (central) and see the avs server stacked with more than 6-8 guys. I'll flip over to 4-5 others that I frequent and they are at 20+ guys every night at all times.
IMO that's still why you need 2 servers. The one that you pack and the other that you tinker with.
My vote goes to 200% Popular CQ maps. but my vote doesn't matter since i've yet to give any money to MPH (<<<----key factor no matter what he says).

Edit-- And we do need more AVS-AVS. to the point of if there is more than 4 guys we should be splitting teams unless there is another group of guys in there that play together. Just IMO. But games are way better when there are 2-3-4 guys on each team that are doing work. Everyone has their specialty and ppl they prefer to play with so I don't think it would really be that big of a problem. We all do a good job of balancing games no matter what team we are on.
post #8676 of 14296
Now my first selections are not to say that I don't like rush, or I that I don't like big CQ maps. I do like both and would be fine playing them, especially if by chance we had a server loaded with avs'ers. Up until lately I liked big CQ maps the best probably, so obviously I would still "like" them. But I have really enjoyed some rush lately as well, but have trouble making a final decision on what to select. But mainly I just feel like some, too many, map / game mode combos are just not...idk...excellent.

I really think with setting up a server map selection and the corresponding game mode is crucial, and should be well thought out. I feel some maps just do not line up with certain game modes correctly, and other game modes on those maps are really good. For example I think a couple maps are really good for TDM but most other the maps are just underutilized for TDM. I think dice could have done a much better job here.

I also feel some maps are just a little ridiculous on rush but are solid on CQ. Like the other day, Tumult and I were playing rush on Bazaar. That first little room is just plain silly. Everyone throwing grenades in and out of it. I mean it's like a 10 x 12 ft room. The game ended right there. What the hell? But I have excellent experiences of CQ on Bazaar. Actually I'm not against playing rush on Bazaar again, it's just that I maybe I haven't played enough on that map, because I came away with the idea that that map/game mode combo was broken because of that scenario.

IDK. I go to setup the rotations and try to select a really good one, but frankly I feel my options are kind of limited. It's odd, but just too many map / game mode combos just don't seem to be...excellent.

Oh well, maybe that poll will help straighten things around.

I won't be back on this thread for a few hours. See you guys later.
post #8677 of 14296
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Originally Posted by mphfrom77 View Post

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Operation Metro   - Rush = 00    CQ = 01   TDM = 00   SDM = 00  
Caspian Border    - Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 01   SDM = 00
OperationFirestorm- Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Grand Bazaar      - Rush = 00    CQ = 01   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Seine Crossing    - Rush = 00    CQ = 01   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Noshahr Canals    - Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Kharg Island      - Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Tehran Highway    - Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Damavand Peak     - Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Strike at Karkand - Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 01   SDM = 00
Gulf of Oman      - Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Sharqi Peninsula  - Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Wake Island        -Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 00   SDM = 01
Okay, let's try to get some kind of count. I think it would be best if we kept our individual total number of votes as low as possible. Basically maps we can't do without, and maps we would really like to see in the rotation.

I'll start by selecting a few myself. I have noticed my map style changes and I will revisit this poll, as I think everyone should, and update my personal votes to include additional maps that I didn't realize I liked so much, or change one I have had enough of. This would allow a rolling current rotation desired list.

Please everybody vote, even if you will hardly spend time on our server. I feel this will bring better gaming to everybody. I still think avs vs. avs is where we will find the most fun.

Just quote this post and up the number by 1 unit. Like I'll put a 1 and the next guy will delete that number and put a 2, and so on.

I haven't played much lately but I have a lot going on currently. However my top 5 would be

1. Karkand Rush
2. Seine CQ
3. Sharqi CQ
4. Firestorm Rush
5. Gulf of Oman CQ

I like both modes so I tried to mix up my selections. I would love to add SQDM in but limiting to 16 sucks for all other modes.

I could add a few more but I figure picking a top 5 is fair.
post #8678 of 14296
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Originally Posted by mphfrom77 View Post

Code:
Operation Metro   - Rush = 01    CQ = 02   TDM = 00   SDM = 00  
Caspian Border    - Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 01   SDM = 00
OperationFirestorm- Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Grand Bazaar      - Rush = 00    CQ = 02   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Seine Crossing    - Rush = 00    CQ = 02   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Noshahr Canals    - Rush = 00    CQ = 01   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Kharg Island      - Rush = 00    CQ = 01   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Tehran Highway    - Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Damavand Peak     - Rush = 00    CQ = 01   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Strike at Karkand - Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 01   SDM = 00
Gulf of Oman      - Rush = 00    CQ = 01   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Sharqi Peninsula  - Rush = 00    CQ = 00   TDM = 00   SDM = 00
Wake Island        -Rush = 00    CQ = 01   TDM = 00   SDM = 01

Here are my votes
post #8679 of 14296
Is this a vote FOR a map or AGAINST a map?

My top 5:

Operation Firestorm Rush
Caspian Border Rush
Kharg Island Rush
Caspian Border Conquest
Operation Firestorm Conquest

Personally, I agree that high ticket servers are painful, though I do want to try finding a jet map with insanely high tickets to see how long I can stay airborne. Would be a fun challenge.. once. Just like Super Smash Brothers 4 players 99 stock. Woo!
post #8680 of 14296
For a map, proctor. You are just taking shots at my selections aren't you?

Okay, somebody needs to walk hoosier's and zath's votes into the table.

I assume phone posters may have trouble, idk. (you'll see when you get home it looks better on a computer)
post #8681 of 14296
Okay, I just spent the past HOUR setting up a new rotation, picking maps based upon what I thought they were "best for." Given the feedback for CQ over Rush, it pretty much goes;

Big Map CQ
Small Map CQ
Big Map CQ
TDM
Big Map CQ
Small Map CQ
Big Map CQ
Rush
...
Patttern repeats with different maps.

I also tried to alternate the BF3 maps with the BF2 maps, so everyone gets a little variety. People still get their vehicles, others get close-quarter combat. Left the ticket count at 70% so that the CQ rounds go quicker; it doesn't affect TDM or Rush to my knowledge. I can't think of a way to create a better balance. There are hundreds of "24/7, XXX Map(s) Only, 500% Ticket" servers out there, so this is aimed in a different direction.

Again, this took me a FULL HOUR to go through, so I didn't just throw it together haphazardly. If anyone want to change a setup, please do so with one of the ones that are standard DICE Presets like "BF3 Favorites" so we can see if this might be something people are interested in.

MPH, whenever you're ready for me to send you something via PayPal or a code with points, let me know.
post #8682 of 14296
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Originally Posted by mphfrom77 View Post

For a map, proctor. You are just taking shots at my selections aren't you?

Okay, somebody needs to walk hoosier's and zath's votes into the table.

I assume phone posters may have trouble, idk. (you'll see when you get home it looks better on a computer)

You need to copy and post your own table every time too - you can't update someone else's quoted table. If I quote Atlienz, it doesn't show the table - and if I quote you, it doesn't include Atlienz picks.

Maybe a Google spreadsheet would be easier.

If there's competition, I'll play on any map. I'm with Snake though - I say if there's 6 or more AVS'ers without significant competition, split up the party. I never return to a server I roll or get rolled on - I'll only favorite a server where it comes down to the end of the match.
post #8683 of 14296
Big ticket servers are fun. It really does add yet another level of depth. I need to try a Caspian or Firestorm though. Probably not an everyday thing but a good bit of fun when you have the time.

Bazaar rush is awesome! First set of mcoms requires a blitzkrieg attack. On defense it's a blast sitting in that room and guarding. It can be taken/defended but it all comes down to a teams communication.

I don't have any particular map preferences myself. I'll play any of it on any mode and be happy. If I get an itch there's plenty of servers to scratch it on.
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post #8685 of 14296
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Originally Posted by ballen420 View Post

If there's competition, I'll play on any map. I'm with Snake though - I say if there's 6 or more AVS'ers without significant competition, split up the party. I never return to a server I roll or get rolled on - I'll only favorite a server where it comes down to the end of the match.

Ya.. And just clarifying. Everyone has people they play with more. I tend to match up more with Lowgn, harp and kilmore the most. Usually just due to our schedules tending to line up. I dunno if true but i tend to see spyder and nexus often etc..
If we are rolling odds are I'm gonna switch teams and try to get one or two of these guys to come help. Nobody needs to get pissy about it going either way. Hell I join the other team quite a bit and get steam rolled. It's all worth those one or two knife kills on avs'rs to me =P

Spyder- I can dig that rotation. I'd still prefer 100% tho =P
post #8686 of 14296
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Originally Posted by htskinner View Post

It's all worth those one or two knife kills on avs'rs to me =P

It's always nice to hear a "f*** you Shmoopy" after you shoot an AVSr's face off.
post #8687 of 14296
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Originally Posted by jsacevedo View Post


It's always nice to hear a "f*** you Shmoopy" after you shoot an AVSr's face off.

Or get an earful cuz you C4rd someone repeatedly Getting knifed is always funny too cuz whoever gets it is always very proud to separate their fellow AVSr from his tags.
post #8688 of 14296
Hi guys,

just back from another business travel, have been out a lot lately. I will try to catch some games on the weekend.
I had two good games with Snake and Lowgn last weekend. Thanks for that!

So the AVS server can be found when I search for the three magic letters?

N.
post #8689 of 14296
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Originally Posted by lordxar5 View Post

Or get an earful cuz you C4rd someone repeatedly Getting knifed is always funny too cuz whoever gets it is always very proud to separate their fellow AVSr from his tags.

Lol exactly. I usually tend to get a good chuckle whenever i see you C4 an avs'r. If i'm on the oppo team I'm ALWAYS looking around for a support guy laying in the bushes or being sneaky lol
post #8690 of 14296
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Originally Posted by htskinner View Post

Lol exactly. I usually tend to get a good chuckle whenever i see you C4 an avs'r. If i'm on the oppo team I'm ALWAYS looking around for a support guy laying in the bushes or being sneaky lol

Yeah if Nexus is on the other team I'm always looking for him, I won't even dare get in a vehicle either!

Snake I still gaze at your snake tag I took a couple of months ago. You are the only one I've seen with it.
post #8691 of 14296
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Originally Posted by atlienzz View Post


Snake I still gaze at your snake tag I took a couple of months ago. You are the only one I've seen with it.

Lol ya i think it was one from watching the Act of Valor trailer. I haven't ever seen someone with them either.
post #8692 of 14296
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Originally Posted by htskinner View Post

Lol ya i think it was one from watching the Act of Valor trailer. I haven't ever seen someone with them either.

Yeah. I got those too from the AoV. What the hell is a "RabbitDuck?"
post #8693 of 14296
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Originally Posted by htskinner View Post

Lol ya i think it was one from watching the Act of Valor trailer. I haven't ever seen someone with them either.

No other snakes who can use it!
post #8694 of 14296
Maybe it's been answered before, but can you see the ticket count when browsing servers? I can't tell you how many times we've joined a server only to find out that the score is something like 800 to 600.
post #8695 of 14296
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Originally Posted by jbn008 View Post

Maybe it's been answered before, but can you see the ticket count when browsing servers? I can't tell you how many times we've joined a server only to find out that the score is something like 800 to 600.

Through Battlelog you are supposedly now able to but I've not tried it. Also means you have to have a computer up at the same time.
post #8696 of 14296
Thanks for the quick reply, I'll give it a shot.
post #8697 of 14296
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Originally Posted by atlienzz View Post

Yeah there has been some lag...

Last night on Metro I was in that long hallway coming up the middle from the spawn in the subway and this guy was shooting at me with a M416 and killed me, however my body was completely around the corner, I know this is BS because I was revived about 10 feet the other side of the wall....no way that guy killed me but he got the credit for whatever reason.

That happens to me EVERY time I play(several times per match). It's like they're firing magic bullets that bend around corners. It's the one thing I really hate about this game!
post #8698 of 14296
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Originally Posted by htskinner View Post

Lol exactly. I usually tend to get a good chuckle whenever i see you C4 an avs'r. If i'm on the oppo team I'm ALWAYS looking around for a support guy laying in the bushes or being sneaky lol

Well you know he has the sprint perk on. He is probably the squirmiest I have played with. If on the opposing team, and I'm in a tank he just somehow appears with those pleasure packs.

He has a weakness though, and that is he also likes to be in tanks. I teabagged nexus last night after I destroyed his tank.
post #8699 of 14296
2nd the act of trying to get another avsers tags. I don't even knife that much, but I make an extra effort if they're not looking my way. On a random I usually just shoot them in the back.

I always laugh when nexus c4's me. I think it's hilarious the lengths he goes to set up traps.
I can't say I laughed when spyder shot me in the face with the mass dart round though.
post #8700 of 14296
Those BF friend videos are hilarious. I've seen them before, but damn their funny.
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