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I prefer CQ for the reasons you listed, but in addition, the game seems it was designed for CQ and Rush was an afterthought. BC2 was the opposite, in which the CQ maps were an afterthought.

That being said, if there were a solid 8-10 of us playing Rush every night, I'd probably be a bigger fan of it in BF3. I love the feeling of being down to the last MCOM or defending with only a handful of tickets left - that feeling can't be matched in CQ. I hate to say it, but I think a CQ match between us and BAT won't even come close to the intensity of those Rush matches, even when we were getting smoked. Rush is the perfect scrim setup - it's too bad BC2 doesn't have custom servers where we could get a night of that in.

I'm feeling a nostalgia night very soon. Dust off those BC2 copies.

I'm pretty sure you can set up private matches in BC2 if you have at least 8 people...

I agree - and maybe that's why people love Metro and Bazaar CQ so much - it's some of the most intense fighting. Kharg and Caspian, by contrast, are too open, causing more skirmishes of little intensity. Add to it the fact that you can have two people in jets, two in the attack chopper, and up to five more in the transport chopper, and you only have three people on the ground capping flags!

I still enjoy rush more than CQ. The jets are more effective; in CQ, I'm constantly stuck in dogfights, and the rare moments I'm free I am unable to destroy a tank/other vehicle fast enough before I'm challenged again.

Aside from that, there are much more intense fights at nearly every MCOM. I absolutely love Grand Bazaar's first set of MCOMS. I even enjoy Metro Rush. Tehran Highway is actually enjoyable. And let's not forget the basejump off Damavand Peak!

I agree that most of the maps feel like they are made for CQ. At the same time, I find it interesting that most of the CQ maps have identical vehicles on both side, save for Noshahr Canals and the CQA maps. It'd be nice if DICE were to do DLC maps based on a specific mode.

I was talking about this last night with Duke, Hksvr, and I think J4mmy (one of Duke's friends). There are way too many vehicles for 12v12 on the big maps. If you aren't paying attention those 4-5 people not in air vehicles can determine the entire outcome of the match even though none of them are very good.

In other news, I shot an attack chopper out of the sky again with the tank shell last night, it was very satisfying. Screw your ECM!

I think El Dude was playing too. I was killed by Atliens 7 times in the attack chopper. Finally was able to take them down. Jet was doing a good job at flying the chopper though. J, I saw your tank shell hit the chopper. I still don't understand why my rockets disappear when I die even though I let if off way before. What was the purpose of this?

I think CQ on Kharg can get pretty intense.

BTW there are no transport choppers on Caspian or Kharg, so the max people each side could have in the air at one time is 4. But the attack chopper does take a while to spawn, so if you were not waiting around for it then that only gives you one to two people in the air.

I've played some pretty tight matches on Kharg and Caspian lately. The battles between B and C are pretty much nonstop usually. And actually 200% tickets is pretty nice on those maps and I do not think it is too long of a match. If it goes down to the wire it is indeed all the more epic. Just my opinion.

I agree with this - I get most of my points between those two points on both maps. Infantry is also effective here because the tanks are vulnerable at both of those points and they will have to retreat if the engineers or Nexus are out. The C flag on Caspian, Hilltop, is a tank trap.

Wake Island recently got an update to a 5 flag variant that is way more fun than the 3-flag. I think this would help Operation Firestorm. You wouldn't have to run so far between objectives. Maybe Firestorm seems so bad because the flags are so far away from the deployments.

Also, it seems like it takes forever now for a javelin to lock on, even if they aren't running smoke. Yesterday I couldn't get my javelin to lock for anything. It doesn't make sense either that the tank can pop smoke and move out of the cloud and still not be locked onto.

You aren't a one-man wolfpack?

So. consensus?
-Play BAT again on CQ. Mix the maps again, Big/small.

-Start coordinating a night (or early weekend afternoon) a week where we (avs, bat, anyone we can get) get on and play a scrim with random teams and/or organized squads mixed between teams. Game types and maps determined weekly by vote?


EDIT-- Also if we do a CQ vs BAT I would vote for increasing ticket count and possibly playing less maps. Especially for maps like Seine, bazaar and metro. 150% or something.

My thoughts exactly.

I'm up for playing on a designated day or two, and definitely down for another scrim. Otherwise I'll see you all when the new maps drop.

mph -- pomp is pretty bad ass for a chick dont let that sweet voice fool you lol

+1 on what was said about conquest, but I wish we did mixed modes the first time to be honest cause I'd rather just play for fun and not in 'clan' matches.

I didn't hear her voice, but I ate a lot of her lead.

Also, I like playing against other AVSrs. It offers a challenge that you don't get when we all play together and it's a lot of fun to shoot your friends. I always get a kick out of getting a headshot on one of you guys or taking your tags. I like the idea of us playing against each other more instead of stacking our team and chasing just about everyone off the server.

Wow, pomp is a chick? She killed me so many times... she's a highly skilled player. In fact I feel like I lost 80% of all the 1 on 1 confrontations those games. I don't know about anyone else, but my connection was sucking, voices were cutting out the entire game, and the lag made it tough to get kills.

Really, you didn't play BC2 with us??


In general I have my son every other weekend, so those will be no go's for me. So next weekend would be cool and so on down the line. But I'm just one guy so I'll jump in as my schedule allows.


WTF is with flares not working on the chopper?? I'm in the gunner seat with flares equipped and it's not even an option to pop them.


Yes, let's try a CQ skrim and see what happens. A set weekly night, I'll play as my schedule allows.

That is debatable. There are times I break off the pack to flank it up. There was this one time on Operation Firestorm I lone wolfed it. I felt compelled to hunt this sniper that kept taking shots at me.

Yeah, I was in there but I'm not Duke's friend...at least not when he's on the other team and kicking my ass.

I was the guy you & hk were talking to about using the SOFLAM to take down the chopper.
Like I said at the time you've got to put it up as high to see as much of the battlefield and maintain your lock on the target for as long as possible.
It takes at least 5-7 seconds for you to acquire the target, lock and then for the javelin to lock as well and then fire.

Once I had it up on the mountain top we were able to target them long enough to take them out and I didn't get killed because I wasn't anywhere near it.
That usually works, even against really good pilots & gunners.

Sounds like we've got enough people interested in doing a CQ scrim, so whenever you can get it down to a solid date/time we'll see how many we can get together. Most of [BAT] are based out of Europe (EST +5 for UK +6 Norway), so the best times would be on a weekend afternoon.

Lowgn, I'm with you man...these are meant to be fun scrimmages, not so much "clan matches". It's added a new dimension of fun to the game for me, and it sounds like most everyone had a pretty good time getting together.

Snake, are you getting the next one together? MPH sent me a message indicating interest, but since he's never 100% sure of his availability due to work obligations, he didn't want to be the 'event coordinator' and then not show up.

MPH--for what it's worth, I was the coordinator of this last event, and I almost didn't show up for it myself hehe...believe me, I got a bit of $^@# for that lmao...

Razor,
Did not take you for the type to leave the girl at the altar.

Grimster!! Lol what's up man...I try my best to steer clear of altars my friend. They scare me.

Well that night was the only time I had tried the dart thing, and I really had no success using it with either iron sights or a holo sight on the m416 and an94 and maybe a couple others. I had got the idea for some reason that the G3A3 was the best gun for this, not sure why, and it may not be the case.

Well yesterday I was unlocking attachments with my newly acquired g3a3 while playing tdm with 500 tickets on Grand Bazaar (a pretty nice mode game if you get the chance). After a game or two, and early into the next match that I wasn't sure I wanted to finish, a guy got me a couple times with the Dart...and it was on. I loaded up the G3A3 with heavy barrel, underslung rail, and an acog (actually that is was what I had equipped anyways) and then I added M26 Dart to the gun. Game over. I was running around blasting fools. By far and away the easiest way to get a kill that I have experienced in this game. Nothing has ever been as close. I was taking snipers out like 50-60 meters away or farther, behind cover mind you, with two shots. Running around corners and blasting fools. Just blasting anybody, anywhere. It seemed to really help having the ACOG sight for this as well.

I only got about 20-30 kills with it before I was done and backed out of the match. I don't plan on using it in the future. I just wanted to see exactly how easy it was. And it is easy. It's way more than cheap. It is ridiculous. I can't believe people run around using it. It is so obviously cheating.

Now, fully understanding its capabilities, I have that much more disrespect for people using it. There is no way a high rank should be using it. I think they absolutely should be banned from our server if they use it.

Oh well there is my take on it. Ridiculousness.

The reason the dart works best on the G3 is because the heavy barrel boosts accuracy on the G3 more than heavy barrel on the other assault rifles. So the Dart does get a buff on any gun, but it is the most accurate on the G3.

And yeah, it is super cheap. Last night I rolled with Bar0n and Operator. We were on OP Metro Rush and two people were whoring out the Dart. Guess who was on the top of the scoreboard on their side? Yup. We ended up winning the match anyways, and guess who quit? Yup.

It seems the best counter to the Dart is a good group of two or three medics. Throw in some 320 grenade launchers and enjoy.

K so I guess we should start throwing out a time for the next scrim with BAT.
Obv not this sunday. So how about either saturday 5/19, or sunday 5/20

I'd prefer Sunday. I have to attend a wedding on sat. But obviously if more people can do sat then by all means do sat.

5/20 is cool with me

Count me in.

I'm tentative for 5/20.

Also probably play next scrim on their server.

man i need to get a recorder. Had so many crazy things happening lately.

Has anyone tried knifing someone out of a buggy?
Would it not be badass if they had an animation for that? Just hold your arm out the side, spear them, then drag them for a little while. Or if it just reached out and grabbed them and drug them? haha. For some reason i can't get that image out of my head.

I'd love a recorder too....though I'd have to erase that time I C4'd our own Z11.

Barring anything coming up, I should be able to make 5/20.

lol, that was a first. Or the time we tried rush out on damavand... Fully loaded with you happy and I think it was lowgn... Apparently the venom can't recover very well from a nosedive. Luckily pilot (me) didn't go down with the ship. However you 3 successfully rode it into the ground.

just logged onto a Bazaar 24/7 CQ server.
got the Dart in 10 min of play.
love it.

I'll try to make it 5/20. Yeah it's time to play on their server, and they should get to pick 60% of the maps, just like we did first round.

So I'm curious as to what everybody thinks about the ticket percentages, number of maps to be played, and what maps to play?

So when choosing the amount of tickets to be used, the only options are 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 hundred percent tickets. There is no 150%, although that would be nice.

I feel, imo, that the question of tickets should either be 100% or 200%, and nothing higher. Between those two I am voting for 200% tickets, because it just seems to play out better. If you get down you have more time to stage a comeback. And the battles seem to be that much better overall. More of a good thing without the possibility of getting cut too short.

Now I still think we could do 5 CQ maps at 200% and that it would not take too long, but idk. I think that would most likely come out just as long if not less time as our 5 rounds of Rush, where we each got to attack and defend. What do you guys think? Well, Bat may just completely dislike CQ though, and that may be too long for them, idk. If avs and bat did decide on 100% tickets then I think we definitely have to increase the maps to more than five, maybe to 9, which has it's benefits as we would get to see more maps. But, imo, with 5 maps at 200% we will have more battles and less running to cap the flags. More defending and attacking.

IMO, Kharg absolutely has to be one of the maps. To ensure this, I feel we have to use that as one of our selections. Just my opinion.

So if doing 5 maps with 200% tickets, that only leaves me with one more map vote. Hmmm, so many choices. Seine, Caspian, Metro, Bazaar, Wake...the list goes on. I think I have to go with Grand Bazaar as my second choice. I just absolutely love the hallway/corridor battles at B flag. I also really like the flanking possibilities, and just all the completely nuts battles.

So yeah, I guess I pick 200% tickets, with my 2 maps choices being Kharg and Grand Bazaar.

I think the next thing Bat and Avs needs to decide on is the ticket %. 100% or 200%?

I think we should have a vote on that as soon as possible and then see what Bat wants to do.

I know Bat decided the first time on 5 maps of Rush, giving us 3 maps choices, but CQ is a little different and I think Bat should have an input on the ticket % and number of maps played.

After we nail down ticket percentage and number of maps to be played, then we can have a voting process where we know exactly how many maps each person gets to vote for.