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I'm not good with brackets so maybe someone who's used to college bball tourneys can work that part. Otherwise we could either choose squads or do a draw?? Depends on how simple or complex you want to get. Would be cool to have a running tourney where every so often we can blast away rather than a couple hour thing once. Don't know about you guys but I don't think this mode gets done enough.

What I ran last night once that holo opened up. SKS feels like the QBU assignment rifle. Can level not off and use it like a semi auto shotty in a pinch.

Not feeling much 93r love. Decided to try it since I keep getting owned by it but not so happy with my results.

Atlienz, tried SKS this past weekend playing TDM with some randoms after getting killed by you so many times in the past and really liked it. Also discovered how good the M93R is in CQC since I would switch back and forth when moving around. SKS def requires you to be patient and hold an area so doesn't really lend itself to my style when playing conquest but will try it out more.

snake glad it's working out for you, not surprised since you are so good with that gun figured would be even better if weren't on the minimap. I'm planning on switching off from M16 when I get the 'platinum' for it and try some other ARs don't think it's a good fit for me even though everyone else loves it lol.

Lol damn you guys and the SKS, i tried it and loved it as well. I'm forcing myself to not trade in my SV though. Just got in top 200 so still going.

Yea I just can't make myself ditch it, I've tried. I just love it because if my aim is off or the server just isn't working I can switch to the full auto A3 and when it is on the a4 is perfect for me.
I wish i had more options at the 3rd slot though. I don't like using the tube all the times but I have to have a 3rd weapon (especially now that i'm not on mini map) due to reloads. I'm jsut going to end up switching back to the MASS and just replying to the hater with "no underslung rail".
I need an extra extended mags perk. 1 in 3 times I'm running through my rifle and pistol mags and end up having to reload pistol just to keep them from coming at me.

No problem, man Funny to check in with u guys now and then (Y)
Yeah, i really like every map we played that night. I like those big maps for flying the chopper and jet's, and the small maps to get a lot of kills.
I usually use C4 that much, but damn, to tempted to use it when there was like 5-6 of u down there in the stairs! Hehe

I shared your video on our private site on Facebook. And of those I've talked with, they liked it!

In the future, u can always find us on battlelog, if you are there..
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3...5391356783681/ that is to our platoon, and this one is linked to me: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/user/p_formo/


Aaaand, that video of u using TV-missile... omg, porn!!! Love it Have shared it with everyone in BAT + also posted it on a few Battlefield pages

http://www.facebook.com/battlefield/...7?notif_t=like



Petastic89 - BAT

Hi Pet,

thank you for the link. Looking forward to some more action with the BAT crew. :-)

Ciao
N.

Thank you for the vid mph. Kudos for using the AN-94. I stopped using it last week because it would just jam inconsistently and got me killed more than I liked. Been using the G3 with FS and PK-A again and love it so far.

Yeah, that was not the map to use it on, that's for sure.

Edit- the jets are so infuriating to me. I just do not understand how some players can locate me, get behind in a couple of seconds, and then kill me all within a matter of seconds, with me being 100% and flying as erratic as I can in the opposite direction he was initially going. I am completely baffled. I can't stay in the air longer than a minute most of the time. I just simply do not understand how they are getting these long bursts on me, and I can just never, ever get a damn shot on them. Really pisses me off. It's the only thing in this game I feel clueless about. And apparently I am. As hard as I am turning, I am basically shocked that they are getting these long bursts on me time and time again. It's basically pointless to even try and practice, as jet freaks are many and out of control.

And to top it off, jets are insta spawn vehicles. They are always there. Why would Dice do that? Why would trolls be allowed to rule the skies, spawncamping whenever they feel like it without fear of losing their vehicle?

I am baffled by the instant spawning of the jets as well. But I'm also shocked that these apparently good pilots that are everywhere, are lightyears better than me at jets, to the point that there is nothing I can do but bail...and half the time I can't even do that.

I thought I could work on my skills, but honestly , I don't think it is possible. A lot of these guys are just too good, and there is always a jet of their choice if they want to take one. I think the instant spawn of the jets ruins the game a little, and the lack of strength out of the spawn AA gun allows spawncampers to almost do whatever they want, whenever they want. A good pilot can spawn camp without any fear of losing his jet to the AA gun. On they off chance that he did manage to somehow get killed while spawncamping, he just has to hit the deploy tab as quick as he can, and he's back in the air.

Frustrated.

BAT vs AVS CQ Seine Crossing:

(I wish I would have gotten Grand Bazaar as well too. But I forgot to hit record until right after this game on Seine had begun...which was the 2nd game. I felt I had to make it into 2 videos as opposed to speeding things up or deleting part of the video.)

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Mph, u need to try and get zath in the avs server or an empty server and have him show you how to turn quickly. There is a certain airspeed that is optimal for max turn rate and conquest jets handle a little different than the rush jets. Also I don't know what unlocks you have for jets, but having air radar helps tremendously. If your opponent has air radar it makes it much more difficult to evade them.

Thanks for posting the vids!

Zath has to open a BF3 school for pilots of jets and helis!

I cannot fly sh** not even a Venom.

Yeah MPH just let me know when you want to do some jetting and we can get into a game. We should play a rush map, probably Firestorm, and get on opposite sides of the team. I can then watch you do strafing runs and give you some suggestions. We can also do some maneuvering and I can give you some tips.

You're probably doing stuff 70% correct. The problem is that at this point, people in the skies are either skill levels 2 or 3 by now (from my earlier post), and level 1's therefore have a very difficult time. In addition, the stinger buff and jet cannon nerf (against other jets) make it more difficult for level 1 pilots. Keep at it, don't get discouraged.

And I agree, jets spawn way too fast - they should spawn at the same rate as the chopper or tank. The way they are now, I have enough time for one strafing run (rush) when I shoot down the enemy jet. Once respawned, that pilot has one mission in life - to shoot me down. I then spend lots of time looping and dodging before I can once again do a strafing run. On Conquest, with 2 jets, it's even worse - I'm almost never able to do a strafing run.

If you like, I can watch the video you posted of Kharg and tell you what I see at certain timestamps that may help...

^^ Zath, you are absolutely correct about the Jets. I've tried to fly when ever I can but, I get taken down way to easily. I played match where a chopper was spamming our Jet spawm. I got it, get to the end of the run way, then I was blown up. I have been trying the choppers too. This pitch and yaw is BS..ahaha.

MPH, thanks for the vids. The match on Seine crossing was really fun. Their tank couldn't stay alive for long because Nexus would C4 them. All you hear from Nexus is , "tank down". Great work Nexus. Expecially on that map, the tanks are very important. I was running back between C and A most of the time.

Jets and choppers aren't too bad for me anymore. I'm now able to stay up longer than I can take a breath and am also getting kills. I'd rate my flying a 1.5ish on Zaths scale. I can take out ground and choppers and planes with crappy pilots but more skilled people own me.

What worked for me was to get on early Saturday or Sunday while most good people are still passed out and find a server without much air competition both for getting in a jet and against a jet. CQ gets an extra jet to spawn in but rush limits the amount of air you go against plus planes are vastly different in both modes. Get on by yourself and hor the air early in the AM FTW!!!

The suck is getting from zero to HeatSeekers. Once I got those it became infinitely easier. Dogfighting is not my thing yet. I can juke and zoom around but if someone wants me down their getting it. I'm still getting used to the speed you travel at and banking to get back on target without taking a giant loop or ending up right over them.

Shooting ground targets is a bit easier than air. Ground moves on one plane air is on three so leading targets is waaaaay different. I need to get better with the guns cuz my HeatSeekers are a one trick pony and keep me out of rocket pods.

Speaking of heatseekers, I'm almost convinced for Conquest it's better to run beam scanning, flares, and heatseekers. I am a decent jet pilot, and I barely am able to kill any ground targets even with rocket pods. With the above setup I can consistently take out jets at a faster pace than I can with main guns. Air radar is nice and all, but you might give this a shot.

I think zath is more of a 3.5. I can circle with most 3's all day until one of us quits, with zath though I have to get more creative before I die. MPH you just learn to set timers in your head and to when to fly depending on the other guy on your team who is in the air.
If they have both jets in the air and they both come at you after a few tries in the jet its really not worth it to keep on. You'll have to wait until you can get another pilot to at least pull one of the jets off of you. Killing other jets has a lot to do with strategy IMO not just pure jet skill. I see guys all the time who can turn as fast as possible but that really doesn't matter if I just undercut your path every single time because you can't find me or know what I'm doing.
Whenever you do see one bail or go down you just have to automatically set the 30 second timer in your head. When it is going off climb high towards their base and hope he doesn't see you and come in behind him.
I still run guided missile. I can count on one hand how many times i've been shot down with heat seekers from another jet they are just too easy to avoid when there is only one other jet. They do work well when there are two jets but even then unless they are really working together you can keep them from hitting you then as well.
Once you get down killing other jets with your cannon you'll start to understand how you should be turning and how you should be moving--> IE never giving them a big surface to shoot at.

My next unlock is guided rocket, then 8000+ later beam scanning....

Atlienzz, I experimented with beam scanning on guided missiles - and didn't really notice a decrease in lock-on times. Perhaps it's better for air-air. One nice thing about beam scanning - the enemy pilot has less time to pop ECM. That got me a few times, though now that I run flares, it's not as important. Air Radar is just too important on Conqest, though - with 2 jets and 1 or 2 choppers, I find myself very dependent on it. You are right about your rockets - which is part of why I switched to guided missiles. You're "exposed" for a shorter amount of time. Though you can't take out explosives and if the enemy tank pops smoke, you wasted a run.

Also, forget killing ground targets aside from rooftop snipers or random people you happen to see spotted. Rush is where it's at for tank kills.

As far as enemy jets and seeing you, it's 100% easier to spot someone against a blue sky than the ground. I prefer to stay low and on the outskirts of the map. For example, behind the mountains on Kharg. Afterburners light up your jet like a christmas tree so don't fire them unless you're really in a hurry. This is doubly important if you see an enemy jet spawnkilling. Just use normal throttle (enemy can't see you until you start moving - 2 or so less seconds that they know you're in it). When they then make a panicky attempt to kill you, hit the afterburners. Do it right, and you're in the air before they can turn around.

Just looked at BF3 stats and on their SKS leaderboard I'm about #125. Wish that included all BF3 players and not just ones that check in with their site.

Snake: I agree that heatseekers are generally easy to avoid, but with beam scanning I will lock on and have my next set ready before your flares are ready again. This obviously comes down to me being able to stay on your tail, which if the pilot is better than me can be difficult. But if the pilot is better an maneuvering than me it doesn't matter what I run, I'm going to be shot down unless I have a good wingman.

Zath: There is definitely a shorter lock on time with beam scanning, almost half in my estimation. However like I said this really only helps with noob on noob jet kills. And since beam scanning is one of the last unlocks it may not be that useful in the grand scheme of things. I've been using it the last couple of days and I'm getting a lot more kills. For rush I still like rocket pods and the main gun is so much more useful. I've also found when beam scanning a chopper, just get as close to them as possible and fire and they don't have a chance to flare and you usually get the kills.

Right or wrong if there are good pilots up I'm 90% afterburner. There's been at least one time, maybe during our BAT scrim, I got up on Kharg against two good pilots, burned straight over to the chopper and lit him up with HeatSeekers and got the kills. Got pretty much immediately shot down after but got the copter which was my goal.

For my kamikaze style getting in fast and getting a kill or two makes me happy. Side note, keep forgetting, few days maybe a week ago? Bunch of us had problems taking out some level 70 or so named ObSoLeT3. Kept rocking a tank and killing me trying to C4 him. Think I got him a few times but he blasted me more than I got him. After him losing a few matches he traded sides. Anyway, got hatemail evidently I'm a kamikaze/USAS scrub

Hmm. Typically, by the time I get that close to a chopper, it's either going to get the main guns shoved up its arse or its going to be pure, sweet death from above.

OR...I'm going to end up crashing into it while it's at < 10% health while trying to get that last few bullets into it.

I don't think that even 5% of my total jet kills have been from missles.

^ This.

That's exactly why I said heat seekers. If I can't get them killed with my main guns, then I've at least hurt them enough that one of my heatseekers will kill them. The only times I've rammed a chopper though is when I'm doing exactly as you stated, trying to get those last few bullets into them.

Yeah I'm probably a 1.25 on the Zath scale. On conquest most of my kills are heat seekers can only get kills with cannon on weakened jets or choppers that are hovering. Might need to try the beam scanner but Air Radar would be very hard to give up especially now since Zath taught me how to toilet bowl at a proper speed so I can hopefully at least frustrate the level 2 < 3.

Actually was playing the tutorial mode the other day in 1943 flying and it was a TON of fun much easier to fly those WWII planes after the modern jets in BF3 ... I wish I used them more back then maybe at least I'd know some basic moves for dog fighting.

So Zath, can you give a tip or two on how to properly take on a jet pilot who immediately goes into toilet bowl mode? Do you break off the opposite direction get some distance and come back? I'm pretty good at maintaining the proper turn speed to keep up but rarely can I actually get on their tail if they are any good at it.

yeah air -air missiles definitely cut down on pilots bailing after the disable.

Lowgn, you still can. Tons of people still play BF1943. I'll join up for some Coral Sea action if you'd like! Also, you're closer to 1.5 - toiletbowling 101 is essential to move on to level 2

I would have considered myself an ace pilot on 1943, there were very few pilots who could take me down in that game. To this day I still think the zero turned faster than the US plane, though everyone swore it was just a different pilot view. I always bailed over the japanese carrier to get a zero when I could. I was lethal with the bombs vs tanks as well. I could strafe infantry with ease. BF3 I've been relegated to noobness so I typically just play infantry.

I finally pulled out the ol' BF3 disc and put it back in the tray...just to see my stats.

Nearly 1,500 jet kills (not much, I know ) but I honestly don't recall a single kill with heat-seekers. I'm sure I got a couple here and there, but since rocket pods let me at least participate in the ground game, I've stuck with those. I wish it showed how many vehicle disables I've got though...I'd be that it would be > 10,000, since I never get to completely destroy tanks and pilots always seem to bail on me.

I would LOVE to play some 1943 with you all. I absolutely loved that game and to this day I still believe it is the most balanced multiplayer shooter game I've ever played.