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post #4621 of 6789
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Originally Posted by k_lewis View Post

wow that is lame! so no hope of turning it on with the front button when 1/8" jack is unplugged? what is your processor set to- pulse or constant on the 12v out to amp? I have an intrepid with my CBIIIHD and even though the intrepid manual states pulse type, it only works with constant from the CBIII.

Hmmm, that's interesting about the Intrepid responding only to constant...

Well, it's a funny problem and would take quite a long post to explain so I will try to sum up briefly what is happening.

I've always used the 12v trigger from my CB3HD to my Dreadnaught to turn it on and off without problem. About a week ago while listening to some cool jazz at low volume (25 on the CB3) the amp turns itself off and the thermal light flickers momentarily. Since that I've tried every iteration and combination of 12V trigger, switches on "surround" or "stereo" buss on the rear in various position, using the "remote" power from the CB3, or no trigger cables at all. I've checked all cables and connectors and everything in any and every combination.

Another example: last night I was enjoying a late night movie when everyone was asleep, an episode of Columbo at volume of 12. Got through the whole movie (praise God!), but during the credits -click- amp turned off and the "thermal light" came on. Amp wasn't even hardly warm. I doubt Columbo at such a low volume was stressing the Dread in any way!

Anyways, that's pretty much it. I disconnected that gray wire that connects to the 12V trigger jack internally and the amp will operate from the front panel, but I don't want to destroy the poor amp if that cable does more than I think it does.

Any more ideas?
post #4622 of 6789
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Originally Posted by 777BigAnt777 View Post

Hmmm, that's interesting about the Intrepid responding only to constant...
Well, it's a funny problem and would take quite a long post to explain so I will try to sum up briefly what is happening.
I've always used the 12v trigger from my CB3HD to my Dreadnaught to turn it on and off without problem. About a week ago while listening to some cool jazz at low volume (25 on the CB3) the amp turns itself off and the thermal light flickers momentarily. Since that I've tried every iteration and combination of 12V trigger, switches on "surround" or "stereo" buss on the rear in various position, using the "remote" power from the CB3, or no trigger cables at all. I've checked all cables and connectors and everything in any and every combination.
Another example: last night I was enjoying a late night movie when everyone was asleep, an episode of Columbo at volume of 12. Got through the whole movie (praise God!), but during the credits -click- amp turned off and the "thermal light" came on. Amp wasn't even hardly warm. I doubt Columbo at such a low volume was stressing the Dread in any way!
Anyways, that's pretty much it. I disconnected that gray wire that connects to the 12V trigger jack internally and the amp will operate from the front panel, but I don't want to destroy the poor amp if that cable does more than I think it does.
Any more ideas?

Yep the constant signal for my intrepid is odd but nothing new. This is my second CBIII / Intrepid combo and it was the same on the other Intrepid. go figure.

anyway, knowing what little I do about electronics, it may just be a bad remote power switch. that is best case, and just running the front panel power button would be ok. worst case it is an amp module flaking out. does the amp feel really hot when it clips to protection? That would be an indication of something very amiss. also be triple sure you do not have a minor intermittent short somewhere in your speaker wiring. check to make sure the internals are clean and no dust buildup.

Anyway, just speculating- really no way to tell without a proper diagnositc on the unit, or at very least more knowledgeable input from Theta. bummer timing for sure.

I keep a spare ATI 2005 on hand and an Integra 80.2 in case one of my components goes down, I've got a temp backup to throw in. fairly inexpensive to pick up something used on agon, for future ref.
post #4623 of 6789
Watched the Clint Eastwood blu ray "Curve" today. Really enjoyed this movie, with the Compli Blu 3d "transporting" over HDMI outstanding picture and sound.
The picture and sound were as good as it gets. I could hear and feel whenever the bat hit the ball, as the ball flew through the air, as the ball was caught, etc.
My "gut" is that this digital audio/video blu ray transport is certainly delivering the blu ray goods!tongue.gif
post #4624 of 6789
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Originally Posted by Steve Bruzonsky View Post

Watched the Clint Eastwood blu ray "Curve" today. Really enjoyed this movie, with the Compli Blu 3d "transporting" over HDMI outstanding picture and sound.
The picture and sound were as good as it gets. I could hear and feel whenever the bat hit the ball, as the ball flew through the air, as the ball was caught, etc.
My "gut" is that this digital audio/video blu ray transport is certainly delivering the blu ray goods!tongue.gif

Steve - good to know, thanks for sharing. It's on my list to demo one in my system. happy holidays-
post #4625 of 6789
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Originally Posted by 777BigAnt777 View Post

Hmmm, that's interesting about the Intrepid responding only to constant...
Well, it's a funny problem and would take quite a long post to explain so I will try to sum up briefly what is happening.
I've always used the 12v trigger from my CB3HD to my Dreadnaught to turn it on and off without problem. About a week ago while listening to some cool jazz at low volume (25 on the CB3) the amp turns itself off and the thermal light flickers momentarily. Since that I've tried every iteration and combination of 12V trigger, switches on "surround" or "stereo" buss on the rear in various position, using the "remote" power from the CB3, or no trigger cables at all. I've checked all cables and connectors and everything in any and every combination.
Another example: last night I was enjoying a late night movie when everyone was asleep, an episode of Columbo at volume of 12. Got through the whole movie (praise God!), but during the credits -click- amp turned off and the "thermal light" came on. Amp wasn't even hardly warm. I doubt Columbo at such a low volume was stressing the Dread in any way!
Anyways, that's pretty much it. I disconnected that gray wire that connects to the 12V trigger jack internally and the amp will operate from the front panel, but I don't want to destroy the poor amp if that cable does more than I think it does.
Any more ideas?

This sounds like a bad thermal sensor. It is sending the amp info that the amp is hot when it is not, hence an incorrect shutdown, when not necessary. JB at Theta can verify this. I'm not sure if the sensor is user replaceable. Theta will let you know. Norm
post #4626 of 6789
Merry Christmas all you Theta lovers!
post #4627 of 6789
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Originally Posted by tyree91 View Post

This sounds like a bad thermal sensor. It is sending the amp info that the amp is hot when it is not, hence an incorrect shutdown, when not necessary. JB at Theta can verify this. I'm not sure if the sensor is user replaceable. Theta will let you know. Norm

Thanks, Norm, that makes sense. I have sent a few emails to John and he's helping me out.
Tony
post #4628 of 6789
Hey Gents,
It's been forever and a day, but just ordered my cb3HD with two extreme Dacs. Anything in particular I should " watch out for" or consider (like cross-over type) since the unit is in my dedicated theater room? Just wish the RC was ready available - would love to compare it to the Datasat unit.

Best,

Stieger
post #4629 of 6789
Best deal I have ever seen on a Theta Gen VIII series 3 is on Ebay. The seller's theater has been pictured on this site.
post #4630 of 6789
I just sold my beloved Burmester 911 MK3, to get the new Theta Prometheus monos. I have a feeling they will be game changers, and they have that classic Theta look I have come to appreciate. Teta has bee working on these for 5 years.. Hope they show at 2013 CES
post #4631 of 6789
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Originally Posted by Talk2Me View Post

I just sold my beloved Burmester 911 MK3, to get the new Theta Prometheus monos. I have a feeling they will be game changers, and they have that classic Theta look I have come to appreciate. Teta has bee working on these for 5 years.. Hope they show at 2013 CES
I was not sure they were still in development. I saw on another forum that Theta had backed away from N-core. I figured I would just wait and see as I never verified anything. No clue if it's true. Perhaps someone from Theta can confirm? http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=106170.60
post #4632 of 6789
If the amps are demod at CES next week then its clear that Theta still plans to sell them. Otherwise, that's another story!
post #4633 of 6789
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Originally Posted by Bulldogger View Post

I was not sure they were still in development. I saw on another forum that Theta had backed away from N-core. I figured I would just wait and see as I never verified anything. No clue if it's true. Perhaps someone from Theta can confirm? http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=106170.60
Shoot Stereojeff a PM. He can answer this question definitively, provided company politics permit him to do so.
post #4634 of 6789
No, I just ordered a pair from Craig.
post #4635 of 6789
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Originally Posted by Talk2Me View Post

No, I just ordered a pair from Craig.

If Craig was able to place the order, then its good to go!!@@ Congrats!!@@
post #4636 of 6789
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Originally Posted by Talk2Me View Post

No, I just ordered a pair from Craig.
COOL! When do you expect to get delivery?
post #4637 of 6789
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Originally Posted by Bulldogger View Post

COOL! When do you expect to get delivery?

Next month.
post #4638 of 6789
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Originally Posted by Talk2Me View Post

Next month.

Talk2Me, I see you are located in Marin, CA. Just wondering: why don't you order through your local dealer?
post #4639 of 6789
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Originally Posted by stieger View Post

Hey Gents,
It's been forever and a day, but just ordered my cb3HD with two extreme Dacs. Anything in particular I should " watch out for" or consider (like cross-over type) since the unit is in my dedicated theater room? Just wish the RC was ready available - would love to compare it to the Datasat unit.
Best,
Stieger

You didn't want to wait a little for the new DACs?
post #4640 of 6789
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Originally Posted by 777BigAnt777 View Post

Talk2Me, I see you are located in Marin, CA. Just wondering: why don't you order through your local dealer?
I recommend Tyree99 to all of my friends. He's in California and a real audiophile. I'm not saying anyone else is not but he is extremely knowledgeable. Norm is the most knowledgeable dealer that carries Theta with whom I have ever spoken. He knows external dacs, tube electronics, cables, you name it. He's a first class guy as well. In fact, he's so mild mannered that many do not think of him as he does not push himself. He took care of my Gen VIII S3 upgrade. Norm is one of the guys I turn to when I need advice.

I believe Norm plans to have the new amps in for a demo. It might be worth a trip to his place to hear them for anyone in California.
post #4641 of 6789
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Originally Posted by stevekale View Post

Thanks for the update Steve. I look forward to hearing more from your comparisons, particularly ripped Redbook on the BDP-1 versus the Compli 3D.

Although I use my Bryston BDP-1 as my redbook and hi rez music player, just for you, I just did a comparison, playing a number of CDs on the Theta Compli Blu 3D, vs the same redbook CDs ripped via the Bryston BDP-1. Using two different inpuits to my Theta Generation VIII Series 3 DAC, so switching is easy. The Compli Blu 3D is an excellent redbook CD transport. Sounds outstanding. Its close enough to the Bryston that the voicing, musicality, soundstage is remarkably close. Perhaps the Bryston by a tiny hair - and that could well be my or Smokey Robinson's "Just My Imagination". Keep in mind that I have well burned in the Compli Blu 3D for blu ray and over HDMI, but not over the digital coaxial from Compli Blu 3D to the Gen VIII that I used for this demo - so my experience is that if I continued to "burn in" this connection, it will sound even better! Again, the Compli Blu 3D is a very musical and outstanding redbook transport! Of course, the Bryston BDP-1 is "better" in the sense that it does redbook and all hi rez and all the music is avaiable from my iPad with the touch of a finger! Although the Compli Blu (the prior model) was an excellent CD transport, I recall that it was clearly a shade below the Bryston BDP-1 on redbook. Theta deserves accolades on this one!biggrin.gif
post #4642 of 6789
Thanks Steve. That's very much appreciated. I'm waiting for a BDP-2. I'm also probably going to build something similar just for fun using the same sound card. I too think the convenience of having a ripped library of CDs beats a pile of CDs. I also just dropped a LPSU into my new Oppo 103 (and took out the analogue board).
post #4643 of 6789
Actually for me the best part of having a server based system is the shuffle feature, I have literally thousands of cd's so many get lost in the shuffle (no pun intended) or I forget that that I have them etc. So in many ways, in a sense its like having a new music collection. Things pop up that I havent listened to in ages and have forgotten about. One thing I've always been curious about, how does the shuffle function work? It seems my Itunes seems to have its favorite artists. Certain artists seem to pop up more then others.
post #4644 of 6789
While we are on the subject of music servers, anyone tried the Baetis? Fairly new company, but it looks like they're doing an amazing job of making the best media server out there. Price is very reasonable for what they are offering.
post #4645 of 6789
I moved to Ohio. Don't want to change to "OhioJim"
post #4646 of 6789
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Originally Posted by Steve Bruzonsky View Post

Keep in mind that I have well burned in the Compli Blu 3D for blu ray and over HDMI, but not over the digital coaxial from Compli Blu 3D to the Gen VIII that I used for this demo - so my experience is that if I continued to "burn in" this connection, it will sound even better!

Given the Compli Bu 3D is the digital board of the Oppo 95 with a linear power supply, I wonder how 2 channel audio over coax S/PDIF into the Theta compares with HDMI. If I can get the time I want to do some listening runs between these two from my modified Oppo 103.
post #4647 of 6789
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Originally Posted by stevekale View Post

Given the Compli Bu 3D is the digital board of the Oppo 95 with a linear power supply, I wonder how 2 channel audio over coax S/PDIF into the Theta compares with HDMI. If I can get the time I want to do some listening runs between these two from my modified Oppo 103.

I had a 93 with Dr. Lee's linear powe supply. It does make a difference IMHO.
post #4648 of 6789
If focus only on image quality, would the Theta have an advantage over the new Oppo 105 when feeding a Surround Processor / Amplifier? I ask because the Oppo 105 is based on a newer generation processor.
post #4649 of 6789
Is anyone else as frustrated as I am with Theta's website?

For example, last press release was July 2011! CompliBlu 3D menu choice links to the old CompliBlu page. I learn more here on this thread than at their official website.

How about some information about the new processor, new amp, new DACs, or Dirac Live?!

Is it just me? I've always been a huge Theta fan (and user), but sometimes it seems like they don't care very much about keeping us all in the loop.
post #4650 of 6789
Yeah, and it's costing them coin - I've been looking on the Press section of their site with no update, and looking on AVS for Cedia news from Theta, with no luck. So, what is "coming" anyway? I can't believe you'd go to a CES show (CONSUMER) and not highlight your new components - major blunder...

Stieger
Edited by stieger - 1/9/13 at 2:30pm
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