Originally Posted by Steve Bruzonsky
I hate to burst our bubbles BIG BRO,
but I did what you are doing two years ago, using HDMI from my then Theta Compli Blu into
my Lumagen Radiance XE, coaxial out of Radiance into Gen VIII, with HDMI out of Radiance into CB3 HD.
However, after awhile, my Gen VII volume pots needed to be replaced. I sort of wondered whether this could be caused by this funky setup that you are now doing???? I stopped doing this cause I didn't want anymore "pot" problems.For what you are doing, and what I did, one sets the Gen VIII menu to "None" so that the Gen VIII is independent of the CB3 HD, for the front left and right speakers. Meanwhile, the CB3 HD, receiving the full HDMI signal, outputs out the digi out card the digital audio signal to the Gen VIII - but the Gen VIII is set to not do anything with that signal its receiving, as the external channels/speakers in the Gen VIII menu are set to none.
Also, more than a year ago, I advised how I was playing 2 channel SACDs out HDMI into the Radiance, and then out coaxial from the Radiance to the Gen VIII or CB3 HD. What else is new?
With the "new" digi out card, using JRiver from a PC HDMI into my CB3 HD sounds fabulous, as I've reported. Although it sounds great for strictly two channel, I don't know that two channel is quite as good as going direct from Bryston BDP-1 to Gen VIII. But multi-channel sounds spectacular!!! I marveled yesterday as I listened to "Britten's Orchestra" SACD ISO rip from my PC. WOW!
That's OK Steve,
My bubble so far is completely intact, as are my volume pots in the Gen. VIII.
I am well aware of the fact that you tried something similar with your set-up, and I kept the problem you experienced with the "pots", which I know required the return of the Gen VIII to the factory for repair, in the forefront of my mind when I decided to move forward with the set-up anyway.
Of course the correct way to set this all up is the way you are doing it, with the use of the new Digi-Out card, which BTW I happen to already posses and have possessed it for many, many months.
But, lacking the ambition it takes for me to install the card, and the ease of which it was to use the video processor, well, the video processor route won out and has been working extremely well this way here for about as long as the new Digi-out card has been sitting here.
I do of course use the old Digi-out card but I'm not entirely pleased.
It is acceptable enough for blu-ray movies since the Gen. VIII is just that good, even at 48k, but for Hi-rez music, as you well know, it just couldn't cut it.
Then I tried the Tos Link out of the Mini to the Gen. Viii but was restricted to 96k and I was not pleased at all with that for several reasons.
Although the new Digi-out card is already sitting here, I was hoping to only take the CBIII-HD out of the system and open it up one time to install everything new at the same time.
But, as fate would have it and as we all know, the new processing board and everything that will go along with it are not quite ready yet/still.
But once I heard the Mini sound so good playing Hi-Rez music through the video processor, output to the Gen. VIII via coax, I knew it wouldn't be too hard to wait a little bit longer to open the CBIII-HD, if need be.
In the meantime, even though the sound of Aerial 9's along with the Gen. VIII alone was just absolutely fantastic, I felt like I should at least try to add the subwoofers back in. I did, and now it's simply stunning.
Now, if I recall, you did not have the Radiance connected to the Gen. VIII for long before something went very, very wrong.
I have been set-up this way for quite sometime with no apparent problems.
Of course the right way is still always the best way. Should I get up ambition enough to do it that way I most certainly will.
At the moment though, I am not totally convinced that whatever went wrong with the pots on your Gen.VIII was caused as a direct result of the set-up, unless set significantly different then mine.
You say "Meanwhile, the CB3 HD, receiving the full HDMI signal, outputs out the digi out card the digital audio signal to the Gen VIII - "
That's true but that is a completely different Gen. VIII input then what the computer is connected to for music with subs out of the CB-III There is nothing output the Digi-output card to the Gen VIII when the computer outputs to the Gen. Viii & CB-III as there is no cable connection between the two...no digi-out cable to Gen. VIII = no connection.
No connection hopefully means no potential pot problem.
If I wanted to play a movie from the computer for instance, iRule changes the CB-III's input from the computer as well as changes the input on the Gen.VIII to the same input as you'd use for DirecTV or Compli-Blu or anything else and music is downrezed with that input to the Gen. VIII
These two inputs on the Gen. VIII are separate and distinct from one another.
The only connection between them is the control cable which can be done from the Aux Dig-input card just as well.
And that's what you want to keep the volume of the two pieces of gear in sync when the subs come out of one piece of gear and the mains from another.