Well several of you tried to move the convo past the dead horse, and its not moving.
So let's wrap this up and be clear guys: no bosso wasn't unintentionally belittling the shootout. He started with the phrase "I'd love to join the love-fest, but...". Then said everything we did was "useless" and had no value. He was condescending and rude right from the start. And he and those that agree with him are wrong.1) His reasoning for saying so is ridiculous.
Because we didn't eQ the subs to match each other we have no clue how the subs "really" sound and any opinions we offer are useless? And any SPLs we post are useless? That in itself flies in the face of common sense. Think about how often you've listened to a sub and NOT done what bosso suggested. You think that means you have no clue how it performed?2) There was no need to even post what he said
because we clearly state we are aware how room response, room correction, etc. affects things, and that our readers could expect to get different results. We also clearly stated several times our intentions and reasons for doing things the way we did. The whole point of it was to test them as the majority would use them. What kind of sense does it make to say "you didn't test them to a much higher standard so your results are useless" knowing full well we did not test them in that manner on purpose? It was intended to inflame, not help. And it did inflame, and it did not help.
3) After I reminded him of that fact and corrected his erroneous statement
about the 25hz boost on the Dayton SA1000, he still had the nerve to simply repeat his earlier assertions - with the same graphs!
4) The final bit of proof he's wrong about his assertion that our listening impressions are useless, is in the posts he's choosing to ignore. Several people posted and said our listening impressions are exactly how they perceive their sub's performance.
But I guess they don't know how their sub sounds either.
We were pretty up front about how and why we tested the way we did. We tested the subs the way they'd be used. Testing them in a manner they won't be used is what's useless.
If you don't agree with that that's fine. Bosso doesn't agree, stated it rudely and that's cool. Maybe he's a jerk on boards but is super nice in real life. Who knows? I'm super nice on boards and a jerk in real life!
At any rate, some of you agree with him, I'm guessing most don't. So that's it. We're getting to the point where no amount of disagreeing is going to change either side's opinion. We're now passing into the beating of a dead horse and I'd like to just move along. I'm sure some of you want to respond to this post, and that's fine. I'm willing to let it go if you guys want the last word. Then we can move on and get to more helpful topics. Thanks guys.