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post #1 of 23
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During the super bowl commercials I noticed quite a few movies, movies that I've know about but didn't know they were coming in 3D. I think this a big move for 3D gaining ground.

Thor - May 6th
Pirates of the Caribbean 4 - May 20th
Transformers: Dark of the Moon - July 11th
Harry Potter 7: Part II - July 15th
Captain America - July 22th

ALL 3D!

I'm sure there are many more, but these are 5 big ones. I am REALLY excited to own a 3D tv right now!
post #2 of 23
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Originally Posted by mobilejunkie View Post

During the super bowl commercials I noticed quite a few movies, movies that I've know about but didn't know they were coming in 3D. I think this a big move for 3D gaining ground.

Thor - May 6th
Pirates of the Caribbean 4 - May 20th
Transformers: Dark of the Moon - July 11th
Harry Potter 7: Part II - July 15th
Captain America - July 22th

ALL 3D!

I'm sure there are many more, but these are 5 big ones. I am REALLY excited to own a 3D tv right now!

I noticed the same thing. Certainly hope it is not just 2D to 3D conversions. I do know though that the Pirates (Stranger Tide)movie was being filmed with 3D cameras as it was so being reported last summer when scenes were being filmed on Oahu while I was there. I hope the Theater to Blu-ray 3D release time is short.
post #3 of 23
We need scream 4 in 3d.
post #4 of 23
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We need scream 4 in 3d.

That would be pretty cool. To be honest I'm most excited about Harry Potter. I've read the books which I love (and I'm not a big reader) and the movies have been good renditions. But there is something about that fantasy world that makes me want to live in it. 3D will make it that much closer .
post #5 of 23
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Originally Posted by mobilejunkie View Post

During the super bowl commercials I noticed quite a few movies, movies that I've know about but didn't know they were coming in 3D. I think this a big move for 3D gaining ground.

Thor - May 6th
Pirates of the Caribbean 4 - May 20th
Transformers: Dark of the Moon - July 11th
Harry Potter 7: Part II - July 15th
Captain America - July 22th

ALL 3D!

I'm sure there are many more, but these are 5 big ones. I am REALLY excited to own a 3D tv right now!

I think pirates and transformers are the only ones shot in 3D. I did see the thor trailer in 3D before tron legacy and was underwhelmed by the conversion. The pirates 3D trailer looked pretty good though.
post #6 of 23
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Originally Posted by RetroElectro

I think pirates and transformers are the only ones shot in 3D. I did see the thor trailer in 3D before tron legacy and was underwhelmed by the conversion. The pirates 3D trailer looked pretty good though.
That sounds right. HP parts one and two were filmed at the same time. So since part one wasn't 3D, part two must be a conversion. Captain America and Thor were delayed to be converted. Either way, it's something to be excited about owning a 3D tv. When you buy the blu ray it comes with the 2D too, so it's a cool bonus that we have access to.
post #7 of 23
Thankfully, it's been announced that the AVENGERS movie will be shot in native 3-D rather than converted. SPIDER-MAN is shooting now in native 3-D as well.
post #8 of 23
If Transformers has the same kind of epileptic camera action as the others, I probably won't bother with the 3D version.
post #9 of 23
The Official AVS 3D Film (First Run In Theaters) Topic!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1237092
post #10 of 23
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The Official AVS 3D Film (First Run In Theaters) Topic!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1237092

Great reference Lee. I just got excited to see what I saw. But your list is well done and great for people to see that may be interested in 3D but are maybe on the fence. Can you see if a Mod will move that thread to the 3D Content Forum (if it's not already) and make it a sticky? Then we can keep it up to date.
post #11 of 23
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Originally Posted by mobilejunkie View Post

Great reference Lee. I just got excited to see what I saw. But your list is well done and great for people to see that may be interested in 3D but are maybe on the fence. Can you see if a Mod will move that thread to the 3D Content Forum (if it's not already) and make it a sticky? Then we can keep it up to date.



It is a Sticky in the 3D Content Forum. And it is up to date (AFAIK). I revisit it weekly. As you can see there are many 2011 3D films with no firm release date yet. Some will get a date while others may/will be rescheduled for 2012.
post #12 of 23
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It is a Sticky in the 3D Content Forum. And it is up to date (AFAIK). I revisit it weekly. As you can see there are many 2011 3D films with no firm release date yet. Some will get a date while others may/will be rescheduled for 2012.

My bad. I use the iPhone app and the stickies are a different tab that I've never looked at. Oh, and I didn't mean it wasn't already up to date.
post #13 of 23
Just for everyone's information. Even movies shot in 3d have 2d to 3d conversions in them.

Avatar had 2d to 3d conversions. Some Shot are impossible to get because of the camera's. Most Close up shot are done with 2d 35mm, then converted.
post #14 of 23
That's a blanket statement that just isn't true. It may be happening lately in some cases, (Michael Bay has admitted to this with "Transformers"), but there have been hundreds of natively shot 3-D features with natively shot 3-D closeups going back 60 years. 2-D to 3-D conversion has only been recently possible. There are some excellent close ups in the 1950's wave and even a few in the 1980's 3-D movies.

Don't believe everything these guys say. For example, Aja said it was "impossible" to shoot "Piranha" in native 3-D because of water, but if that's true, then how did they manage to shoot "Creature from the Black Lagoon", "Revenge of the Creature", "Jaws 3-D" or any of the other natively shot 3-D movies which featured extensive underwater and waterline shots?

Hollywood is just having to learn how to shoot in 3-D all over again. If there is a limitation, rather than make excuses, the best filmmakers and techs will simply find a way to solve the problem, even if it means they have to develop new tech and/or work outside their comfort zone.
post #15 of 23
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Originally Posted by Steve P. View Post
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Don't believe everything these guys say. For example, Aja said it was "impossible" to shoot "Piranha" in native 3-D because of water, but if that's true, then how did they manage to shoot "Creature from the Black Lagoon", "Revenge of the Creature", "Jaws 3-D" or any of the other natively shot 3-D movies which featured extensive underwater and waterline shots?
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And several excellent IMAX underwater documentaries shot in native 3D, which in my view are the best examples of 3D currently available.
post #16 of 23
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Originally Posted by Steve P. View Post
That's a blanket statement that just isn't true. It may be happening lately in some cases, (Michael Bay has admitted to this with "Transformers"), but there have been hundreds of natively shot 3-D features with natively shot 3-D closeups going back 60 years. 2-D to 3-D conversion has only been recently possible. There are some excellent close ups in the 1950's wave and even a few in the 1980's 3-D movies.

Don't believe everything these guys say. For example, Aja said it was "impossible" to shoot "Piranha" in native 3-D because of water, but if that's true, then how did they manage to shoot "Creature from the Black Lagoon", "Revenge of the Creature", "Jaws 3-D" or any of the other natively shot 3-D movies which featured extensive underwater and waterline shots?

Hollywood is just having to learn how to shoot in 3-D all over again. If there is a limitation, rather than make excuses, the best filmmakers and techs will simply find a way to solve the problem, even if it means they have to develop new tech and/or work outside their comfort zone.
HydroFlex Introduces Stereoscopic Underwater Housing

http://www.btlnews.com/news/hydrofle...water-housing/

World's First 4K 3D Digital Cinema Camera System For Studio, Location, and Underwater Filming With RED Cameras

http://www.filmofilia.com/2009/03/04...h-red-cameras/
post #17 of 23
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Originally Posted by Steve P. View Post

That's a blanket statement that just isn't true. It may be happening lately in some cases, (Michael Bay has admitted to this with "Transformers"), but there have been hundreds of natively shot 3-D features with natively shot 3-D closeups going back 60 years. 2-D to 3-D conversion has only been recently possible. There are some excellent close ups in the 1950's wave and even a few in the 1980's 3-D movies.

Don't believe everything these guys say. For example, Aja said it was "impossible" to shoot "Piranha" in native 3-D because of water, but if that's true, then how did they manage to shoot "Creature from the Black Lagoon", "Revenge of the Creature", "Jaws 3-D" or any of the other natively shot 3-D movies which featured extensive underwater and waterline shots?

Hollywood is just having to learn how to shoot in 3-D all over again. If there is a limitation, rather than make excuses, the best filmmakers and techs will simply find a way to solve the problem, even if it means they have to develop new tech and/or work outside their comfort zone.

First off it is not a blanket statement, I have been working with 3d for quite some time. Yes older movies where shot in 3d but they do not had the camera rig's that we have today. Also Have you seen close up shots of an older stereoscopic film. How they go around it was cropping the frame to make it seem like the camera was closer.

The reason right now for close up shots is that they want no image degradation. If the 2d to 3d conversion is done correctly you can have a beautiful image.

when I mean properly done is they shoot clean plates and characters and objects moving all on there own so they can be brought back together.

its just about doing it right. I have had it where the studio will cut corners to do the close up shots. Scan the film at 6k and crop.
post #18 of 23
Yes, I have seen the old 3-D movies. Some of those old camera set ups must have been pretty darn good considering the results are for the most part superior to what I see being shot today. I've also shot hundreds of macro close up stereo slides using a 60 year old Stereo Realist camera, and they are clear as can be.

It's all about the learning curve. One director says CinemaScope is too hard, others jump right in and do it. Even now, we have director of one Marvel superhero movie saying the cameras are too hard to use and is doing conversion, while the Spider-Man and Avengers shoots are shooting natively. At some point, the FUD will be over and they will find out that they can shoot in 3-D with ease.
post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by Steve P. View Post

Even now, we have director of one Marvel superhero movie saying the cameras are too hard to use and is doing conversion
At some point, the FUD will be over and they will find out that they can shoot in 3-D with ease.

RED EPIC - "a game changer":

MarketSaw - More EPIC News! Red Epic Cameras To Be Used For Ridley Scott's ALIEN Prequels


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According to Jim Jannard, founder of RED, this is what cinematographer Dariusz Wolski (ON STRANGER TIDES, ALICE IN WONDERLAND, EAGLE EYE, CRIMSON TIDE) said recently:

"In my opinion, the new Red Epic camera is about to revolutionize all spectrums of the film industry. I am going to use Epics in my new project directed by Ridley Scott. I am amazed with the quality of the image and the fact that you can shoot 5k at 120fps without compromising resolution, and most of all the size of the camera. Combined with the Element Technica Atom 3d rig, we will be able to shoot a 3d movie with the flexibility of a conventional cinema camera. I don't see anything that comes close to it at the moment. I can't even imagine the potential Epic will have on the big blockbuster industry as well as independent cinema."

MarketSaw - Is SPIDER-MAN Going To Be Shot With The New RED EPICs?? And The RED ONE Intercuts Well With Anamorphic Film

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Schwartzman (THE GREEN HORNET, PEARL HARBOUR, ARMAGEDDON, THE ROCK) on the new 5K RED EPIC:

"I have been part of a very select group of DP's that have actually shot with the EPIC and I can tell that the 3lb 5K camera is a game changer, end of story, game over, pick your cliche'. I will tell you this I have shot more tests on the EPIC than probably any other DP other than my mate Andrew Lesnie who is doing the "Hobbit", we skype daily about how this camera blows our mutual minds, when you see these image projected at 4K it's like looking a vistavision."

MarketSaw - THE HOBBIT Will Be Shot With At Least 30 New RED EPICs At 5K Resolution


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Why should Jackson be excited? The RED ONE cameras shoot digitally at 4K resolution, while the new RED EPICS will capture 5K resolution at 120 frames+ / second!! Yes you read that correctly. The EPIC will have the highest dynamic range ever for a digital camera too.

Further, as THE HOBBIT(s) will be shot in native stereoscopic 3D, Jackson must be reveling in the smaller size and weight of the EPICS.

Jackson said:

"I have always liked the look of Red footage. I'm not a scientist or mathematician, but the image Red produces has a much more filmic feel than most of the other digital formats. I find the picture quality appealing and attractive, and with the Epic, Jim and his team have gone even further. It is a fantastic tool, the Epic not only has cutting edge technology, incredible resolution and visual quality, but it is also a very practical tool for film makers. Many competing digital systems require the cameras to be tethered to large cumbersome VTR machines. The Epic gives us back the ability to be totally cable free, even when working in stereo."

MarketSaw - CONFIRMED! As We Suspected SPIDER-MAN Is Being Shot In 3D With RED EPICS

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Here is what Schwartzman had to say on the reduser boards afterwards:

"Today was Epic, Monday December 6 marks the first day the Red Epic camera was used to shoot a major studio motion picture.
I can say for certainty the camera does exist and boy is it ready for primetime, as a matter of fact it's a true game changer.

We shot in 3D with 4 Epics mounted on 2 3ality TS-5 rigs today, we did 22 set ups, including running high speed and the images look stunning!

For the first time in digital cinematography, small size doesn't come with a resolution penalty, as a matter of fact there isn't a higher resolution camera available other than IMAX, and this one weighs 5lbs with an ultra prime on it, suddenly 3D isn't a 100lb beast!
We had the cameras on dollies and a libra head today and we flew the 3D rig like it was an Arri 435.

The images we made today were stunning, rich beautiful color and the resolution of a vistavision camera all in a package the size of a Hasselblad 501.
We are shooting 2.40 at 5K, there wasn't a hiccup from the cameras all day, the data was flawless, and there was a lot of it. I can tell you without these cameras it would be impossible to move a 3D rig in the ways that THIS story demands, if Jim and the crew hadn't made these cameras available to us I don't think we could have shot this movie the way our director envisioned it in 3D.

MarketSaw - UNDERWORLD 4 Will Shoot With RED EPICS

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Another one! THE HOBBIT, SPIDER-MAN, ALIEN Prequels and now UNDERWORLD 4!! All shot in stereoscopic 3D. All shot with RED EPICs. Impressive start for this new 5K camera isn't it?

Clearly there is good competition for the existing offerings from the Pace FUSION system as well as 3ality Digital. Healthy times indeed for the 3D industry!

James McQuaide, SVP Production, Lakeshore Entertainment stated:

"With the EPIC, RED has clearly elevated their game into the stratosphere - all the tapeless workflow efficiencies are still present but the image quality is now every bit as staggering as the rumors we've all heard. And being an S3D show, that we can put two EPICs on an Atom rig and hand-hold a shot, frees us to both practically and creatively shoot the picture exactly as we want. I Know it's been said before but, plain-and-simple, for both film-makers and ultimately the audience, the Epic is a game-changer."

MarketSaw - And Now Bryan Singer Announces He Will Shoot With The RED EPIC for JACK THE GIANT KILLER

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Director Bryan Singer said this personally on the RedUser Forums:

"I'm very much looking forward to using the EPIC Red for my next movie "Jack the Giant Killer" which will be shot in, what else, 3D. The camera's incredibly compact size and extraordinary resolution are ideal for the 3D format. But more importantly "Jack the Giant Killer" is my first movie set in a time before electricity. The EPIC's extraordinary exposure latitude will allow me to more effectively explore the use of natural light."
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post #21 of 23
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Originally Posted by icester View Post

That is not a 3D camera.
By the time the second camera and beam splitter is added the rig is going to look like a golf cart.
It would be nice if RED had come up with real stereoscopic camera.

Mathew Orman

RED 3D camera rig:

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*Dariusz Wolski (On Stranger Tides), John Schwartzman and Peter Jackson have history with RED.

Avatar, Resident Evil: Afterlife,Transformers 3, The Three Musketeers, Hugo Cabret +++ are shot with Pace Fusion 3D system. (Arri Alexa Pace 3D on Cabret and Transformers)

http://news.creativecow.net/story/865433

HD Magazine - HD Mag - 3D Rig For Scorsese's Hugo Cabret
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