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post #61 of 1425
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It'll be real funny when they jump back 80m years and find nothing b/c God hasn't created the universe yet. Ha ha Stephen Hawking can suck it.
I think it would be fun if they showed up on "day 6" of the process. I can picture the situation:

"Hey, babe, take off those coveralls. God wants us to be naked..."

Ratings would go through the roof.
post #62 of 1425
Saw the full trailer yesterday. My first thought was, how will this ever last? It looks insanely expensive to produce. I'll watch though!
post #63 of 1425
Saw the trailer during 'Glee' and it looks sensational! Love me some dinos, and haven't gotten a fix since the last Jurassic Park flick. But agree that producing that kind of eye-popping CGI under the time and budget constraints of weekly television will be a real challenge. Let's hope the show debuts to huge numbers so it can weather the inevitable serial-show dropoff and still survive.
post #64 of 1425
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A spaceship to save a species has been done countless times.

And will be again, if the WHEN WORLDS COLLIDE remake is any indication.
post #65 of 1425
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And will be again, if the WHEN WORLDS COLLIDE remake is any indication.

Didn't know about that one

I've read the novel ages ago and seen the orig 50's movie many times. I actually have it in my SF movie collection. Imagine doing the earth's destruction with today's cgi tech. Could be a pretty cool remake Or it could be another 2012 or Day After Tomorrow
post #66 of 1425
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Didn't know about that one

I've read the novel ages ago and seen the orig 50's movie many times. I actually have it in my SF movie collection. Imagine doing the earth's destruction with today's cgi tech. Could be a pretty cool remake Or it could be another 2012 or Day After Tomorrow

Unfortunately, "Terra Nova" has the potential to end up as "The Sound of Thunder"...
post #67 of 1425
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Didn't know about that one

I've read the novel ages ago and seen the orig 50's movie many times. I actually have it in my SF movie collection. Imagine doing the earth's destruction with today's cgi tech. Could be a pretty cool remake Or it could be another 2012 or Day After Tomorrow

Knowing
post #68 of 1425
I always prefered the sequel novel "After Worlds Collide". I would like to see a movie adaptation of that one.
post #69 of 1425
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Saw the trailer during 'Glee' and it looks sensational! Love me some dinos, and haven't gotten a fix since the last Jurassic Park flick. But agree that producing that kind of eye-popping CGI under the time and budget constraints of weekly television will be a real challenge. Let's hope the show debuts to huge numbers so it can weather the inevitable serial-show dropoff and still survive.

Here's the issue. The pilot for Terra Nova is looking to be one of the, if not the, most expensive pilot of all time. It's also been under development forever.

So, I would absolutely not count on them being able to keep up with the production values of the pilot from both a cost and time perspective.

Above all else though, lets all remember this is a Brannon Braga project. Those never turn out well.
post #70 of 1425
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Above all else though, lets all remember this is a Brannon Braga project. Those never turn out well.

True dat. Braga is a supreme hack who broadcasts the stench of failure. Hopefully, there is enough talent associated with this project to render him irrelevant and neutralize his corrosive influence.
post #71 of 1425
Rod Hallett ("The Tudors") joins "Terra Nova" cast as a regular: http://www.deadline.com/2011/05/foxs...eries-regular/.
post #72 of 1425
This looks good.
post #73 of 1425
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True dat. Braga is a supreme hack who broadcasts the stench of failure. Hopefully, there is enough talent associated with this project to render him irrelevant and neutralize his corrosive influence.

At least Braga has finally admitted he killed Enterprise with the Xindi arc. But on the other hand, he was involved in the TNG film First Contact, one of the most successful Star Trek films and the most successful of the TNG films. So he is hit and miss at best.
post #74 of 1425
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But on the other hand, he was involved in the TNG film First Contact, one of the most successful Star Trek films and the most successful of the TNG films. So he is hit and miss at best.

Here are the writing credits for First Contact.

Rick Berman
Brannon Braga
Ronald D. Moore

I'll give you one guess as to why the film was a success and the first two (quite literally) don't count.
post #75 of 1425
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Gosh, I believe you're right!
post #76 of 1425
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Here are the writing credits for First Contact.

Rick Berman
Brannon Braga
Ronald D. Moore

I'll give you one guess as to why the film was a success and the first two (quite literally) don't count.

First contact IIRC was the one TNG movie that did not suck, except for the embarrassing wedding opening scene (or was that a different movie).

I still remember how cringingly bad the early episodes of STTNG were, esp. those groan inducing sign off lines. Even then, my friends and I knew it was bad, but we still watched it religiously.
post #77 of 1425
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Originally Posted by bull3964 View Post

Here are the writing credits for First Contact.

Rick Berman
Brannon Braga
Ronald D. Moore

I'll give you one guess as to why the film was a success and the first two (quite literally) don't count.

Actually those are the story idea credits. Screenplay credits are Braga and Moore.

Braga is NOT one of my favorites and I am always skeptical when I see his name, but to his credit in First Contact the whole Cochrane speech where he says the line of "You people are on some kind of Star Trek" is credited to Braga. The Ready Room scene of Picard and Lily arguing over the decision to fight the Borg is also credited to Braga. The whole idea of the Borg was also his idea with Moore fleshing it out.

Braga's work on Enterprise was atrocious. I really liked Enterprise and the premise had promise, but the story arcs he came up with made no sense like the Xindi arc and the whole 3rd Reich Earth arc. Blah.

I am at least going to give TN a try and see what happens.
post #78 of 1425
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First contact IIRC was the one TNG movie that did not suck, except for the embarrassing wedding opening scene (or was that a different movie).

Different movie. First Contact opens with Picard in a dream back with the Borg and then the camera pulls out from inside his head WAY out into the ship itself.
post #79 of 1425
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Braga is NOT one of my favorites and I am always skeptical when I see his name, but to his credit in First Contact the whole Cochrane speech where he says the line of "You people are on some kind of Star Trek" is credited to Braga.

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The Ready Room scene of Picard and Lily arguing over the decision to fight the Borg is also credited to Braga. The whole idea of the Borg was also his idea with Moore fleshing it out.


Well, one thing about writing credits, the credit doesn't always go the people who do the most work on it. It wouldn't surprise me if it was his idea for the 1st one though, that's one of my most hated lines in that movie. Breaking the 4th wall has it's place in comedies sometimes, but that line was just shameless and was only missing a wink at the camera after it was said.

Also, Braga was really into the concept of the Borg Queen which was the single worst thing to come out of First Contact. He managed to turn a terrifying hive mind race from TNG into a group of henchmen following a twirling mustache villain complete with one liner quips as they were portrayed in Voyager.

The real problem is Braga needs to have heavy moderating influences on him. He can be a decent writer from time to time, but he needs to be kept in check. He absolutely cannot be a showrunner.
post #80 of 1425
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Also, Braga was really into the concept of the Borg Queen which was the single worst thing to come out of First Contact. He managed to turn a terrifying hive mind race from TNG into a group of henchmen following a twirling mustache villain complete with one liner quips as they were portrayed in Voyager.

Actually that was a Paramount "request" so as to have a "villain" the non Trek people could hang on to. Braga and Moore didn't have a choice.

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The real problem is Braga needs to have heavy moderating influences on him. He can be a decent writer from time to time, but he needs to be kept in check. He absolutely cannot be a showrunner.

Now I COMPLETELY AGREE with that statement.
post #81 of 1425
Please just reserve judgment until we see the actual show! I can't believe that the show has already been sentenced to eternal suck-dom because one executive producer didn't pass "Nerd Buds Training." I do seem to remember that Steven Spielberg has done a couple of things worth watching.
post #82 of 1425
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Please just reserve judgment until we see the actual show! I can't believe that the show has already been sentenced to eternal suck-dom because one executive producer didn't pass "Nerd Buds Training." I do seem to remember that Steven Spielberg has done a couple of things worth watching.

What, you don't think having an EP, showrunner, and/or head writer who sucks can doom a show? Seriously? Did you ever see 'Enterprise'...? The last 4 seasons of 'Voyager'...? And I don't think I'd be comparing Spielberg to Braga.
post #83 of 1425
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Please just reserve judgment until we see the actual show! I can't believe that the show has already been sentenced to eternal suck-dom because one executive producer didn't pass "Nerd Buds Training." I do seem to remember that Steven Spielberg has done a couple of things worth watching.

Speilberg is not exactly my "cup of tea" when it comes to Science Fiction. There are about five or six of his films I care for (none of them actually science fiction), the rest - not so much. I really don't think he does the genre well at all.
post #84 of 1425
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Speilberg is not exactly my "cup of tea" when it comes to Science Fiction. There are about five or six of his films I care for (none of them actually science fiction), the rest - not so much. I really don't think he does the genre well at all.

Jaws was a robot - does that count?
post #85 of 1425
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Speilberg is not exactly my "cup of tea" when it comes to Science Fiction. There are about five or six of his films I care for (none of them actually science fiction), the rest - not so much. I really don't think he does the genre well at all.
Amazing Stories?
post #86 of 1425
I freely admit that he (Speilberg) does successful and entertaining shows. When it comes to science fiction, however, he tends to Fantasy and seems to drop logic in favor of "story" too much for my tastes.

My fear for Terra Nova is that it will be way too juvenile (like "No Ordinary Family") in an attempt to appeal to a broad audience.

RE: Jaws
If there had been a robot reveal at the end (maybe with an alien overlord) then it would have had as much science fiction as the last Indiana Jones movie.
post #87 of 1425
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Speilberg is not exactly my "cup of tea" when it comes to Science Fiction. There are about five or six of his films I care for (none of them actually science fiction), the rest - not so much. I really don't think he does the genre well at all.

I'm pretty sure he did dinos in Jurrassic Park lll. I agree that AI was too story driven, but how about Men In Black l and ll?
post #88 of 1425
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Jaws was a robot - does that count?

Technically, the shark would fall more under the definition of "steam punk puppet" since it was controlled by pneumatics and gears rather than electronics and was connected by wired controls rather than able to roam independently.

It would be best compared to "Chucky" from "Child's Play" rather than the whales from "Star Trek IV", which were electronically controlled by remote control.
post #89 of 1425
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I do seem to remember that Steven Spielberg has done a couple of things worth watching.

All of which was negated by Indy 4. After directing that POS, I'm assuming he had a brain tumor that has impaired all of his critical thinking ability.
post #90 of 1425
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All of which was negated by Indy 4. After directing that POS, I'm assuming he had a brain tumor that has impaired all of his critical thinking ability.

Well, from what I understand, that was because he had to keep George Lucas in check.

After hearing what Lucas wanted to do for Indy 4, I'm surprised Spielberg was able to salvage as much as he did from the movie.
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