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post #61 of 378
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Originally Posted by SiriuslyCold View Post

Amazon's now updated - CD+DVD-Audio, although the description is still as vague(!)

They're getting closer, though!
post #62 of 378
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Originally Posted by aggieheels View Post


"Ok, so the word is out. I've been in the studio for last month remixing the original Moving Pictures CD in 5.1 surround. I finished tweaks on Red Barchetta yesterday. It really was an amazing experience to spread the original tracks of such a classic CD into the 3D word of surround. (The car speeds off, goes behind and banks a sharp right in rear BTW). The listening experience is drastically enveloping and coupled with songs and performances that epitomize this band, it's definitely a great time to re-discover Rush. After discussion with the band, the goal here was to pay serious homage to the production of the era so a considerable amount of time was spent researching and working through effects etc. that matched the original but would fare well in the 5.1 world. And of course, placement was also a critical issue. I'm pleased with the results and Alex Lifeson was pretty blown away when he came in to listen to the finals." - Richard Chycki, richardchycki.com, February 4, 2011

Funny he mentions RB, that's the one I'm specifically looking forward to. This should be good...
post #63 of 378
they list both the blu ray (26.95) and the DVD Audio (21.95) so which is it then? Do we need to cancel our BR Pre Orders and reorder the DVD audio. Sometime this crap gets so messed up
post #64 of 378
The question for me is, if both contain 96/24 surround, and I have the equipment to play either format, is there any reason to choose one over the other (not factoring cost)?
post #65 of 378
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Originally Posted by baniels View Post

The question for me is, if both contain 96/24 surround, and I have the equipment to play either format, is there any reason to choose one over the other (not factoring cost)?

While I can play both at home, I chose DVD-Audio because I can play that in my car as well.
post #66 of 378
the only difference is the BD contains the 96/24/5.1 in PCM format
post #67 of 378
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Originally Posted by SiriuslyCold View Post

the only difference is the BD contains the 96/24/5.1 in PCM format

They are all PCM once they are decoded, to me that would be redundance,not difference.
post #68 of 378
now you're being obtuse.

whether it is redundant or not, the DVD-A does not contain a 24/96/5.1 PCM track, and therein lies the difference between its contents and the Blu-ray disc contents.
post #69 of 378
Does anyone know if this Blu-Ray will have a Region1 restriction, or will it be "region free"?
The reason I ask is that I live in the UK, but so far I have only seen this release listed on the US Amazon.com site.
Most grateful for any advice.
cheers,
Martin.
post #70 of 378
DTS-HD Master Audio vs. 96kHz/24-bit PCM Let the battle begin!
post #71 of 378
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Originally Posted by SiriuslyCold View Post

now you're being obtuse.

whether it is redundant or not, the DVD-A does not contain a 24/96/5.1 PCM track, and therein lies the difference between its contents and the Blu-ray disc contents.

DVD-A is PCM using MLP to perform the same task as it does for the Dolby THD format. So before you assign some less then flattering adjectives,please educate yourself on the subject first?
post #72 of 378
there's no Dolby TruehD track on the Blu-ray
post #73 of 378
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Originally Posted by SiriuslyCold View Post

there's no Dolby TruehD track on the Blu-ray

So? The point is they are all PCM wrapped into a different encoder to reduce storage size.

Including the uncompressed PCM here along with the DTS HD MA is simply redundant IMO. Having said that I'm not complaining about it, I'm sure it serves some kind of marketing purpose.
post #74 of 378
Actually, Id much rather have a pure analog remaster on Vinyl. I came to this conclusion after recording Kate Bush's - Hounds of Love using 24/96 lossless on a PC, a/b comparison: the file version sounds like it lost its life during the conversion compared to Vinyl.
post #75 of 378
Delayed until May 3, 2011...
post #76 of 378
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Originally Posted by mlobitz View Post

Delayed until May 3, 2011...

Yep, my e-mail from Amazon reads "estimated arrival date is May 6-May 10."
post #77 of 378
The DVD version is still scheduled for April 5th. I hope it stays that way.
post #78 of 378
^^^

i know i'm simply being dense, but i can't find the dvd version on the amazon site... can you help out the internet-impaired here and gimme a link to it?
post #79 of 378
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^

i know i'm simply being dense, but i can't find the dvd version on the amazon site... can you help out the internet-impaired here and gimme a link to it?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MOMT2M
post #80 of 378
^^^

thanks mate...
post #81 of 378
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Originally Posted by holt7153 View Post

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MOMT2M

On the same Amazon page as Rush these were listed under the "similar items/other people also viewed" section:

http://www.amazon.com/Waterfall-Audi...ecc_rvi_cart_1
post #82 of 378
^^^

better order quick... there's only 1 left in stock...

the mind boggles...
post #83 of 378
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Originally Posted by foghorn2 View Post

Actually, Id much rather have a pure analog remaster on Vinyl. I came to this conclusion after recording Kate Bush's - Hounds of Love using 24/96 lossless on a PC, a/b comparison: the file version sounds like it lost its life during the conversion compared to Vinyl.

If you're talking about comparing the CD to the recent vinyl release, it has no bearing on this discussion as the Hounds of Love CD is a well-known stinker and years old.
post #84 of 378
Since I have the BR on pre order and it is delayed about a month I figured why not order the DVD one as well. Hopefully the DVD is of the DVD Audio nature and not DD or DTS. This way if it turns out to be true DVD A then I can cancel my BR order. Seems like a win win to me
post #85 of 378
^^^

great minds think alike...
post #86 of 378
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Originally Posted by scooterdog View Post
Since I have the BR on pre order and it is delayed about a month I figured why not order the DVD one as well. Hopefully the DVD is of the DVD Audio nature and not DD or DTS. This way if it turns out to be true DVD A then I can cancel my BR order. Seems like a win win to me
Well the track listing does say Advanced Resolution... not DD or DTS. I'm ordering the DVDA...

Chris
post #87 of 378
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Originally Posted by scooterdog View Post

Since I have the BR on pre order and it is delayed about a month I figured why not order the DVD one as well. Hopefully the DVD is of the DVD Audio nature and not DD or DTS. This way if it turns out to be true DVD A then I can cancel my BR order. Seems like a win win to me

I'm with ya...
post #88 of 378
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Originally Posted by Milt99 View Post

If you're talking about comparing the CD to the recent vinyl release, it has no bearing on this discussion as the Hounds of Love CD is a well-known stinker and years old.

No, I captured the Vinyl onto a 24/96 lossless file on a pc (using a superior sound card line input) and did a A/B comparison of the Vinyl vs. the 24/96 file version on the same exact equipment and there is no comparison. The original Vinyl source sounds "real" compared to the dead file version.

The difference can be really heard on "Under Ice" where the Violin and Cello are interacting with Kates sweet voice and the interaction and dynamics of all three, the File version mangles all of that distinction and makes the results sound lifeless and fake.

Rush's music has never really "sounded" all that great, I gather from the quality of production except for Test for Echo which is probably their best sounding record.

I also did a A/B/C/D... comparison of Simple Minds' "New Gold Dream" on Vinyl vs CD Remaster (mini-vinyl replica) vs first pressed CD vs DVD Audio analog 96/24 5.1 vs DTS vs Dolby Digital 5.1. The surround formats came from the same hybrid DVD-A release. My findings of best sound:

1 Vinyl
2 DVD Audio 5.1 96/24 using analog outs
3 DTS
4 Original CD
5 Remastered CD (basically a loudness war release)
6 Dolby Digital 5.1

The best song to compare is the title track itself which has a complex bass pattern played with a thumping consistent deep bass drum - here you listen for the the richness and deepness of the bass guitar that can be masked by the thumping bass drum. Also this track has a alternating cowbell to high- hat pattern that looses its distinction when compressed or converted to a digital format. The difference is very clear and evident on all 6 sources.

I did not post this to start an argument of Vinyl vs Computer File Music, I just wanted to say I wont buy this release in the formats currently offered BluRay or DVD-A due to my findings on how real sounds are supposed to sound.

If it were my choice, I'd buy it on a Reel to Reel tape and bypass Vinyl altogether
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post #90 of 378
Pls can somebody answer: Will and BD version be "region free"???
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