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post #1051 of 1093
Wow nice room
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SM2K - I was trying to find in your thread what material you used for your door threshold but didn't have any luck. It appears to be wood of some sort. What type is it and did you just stain it? Any worries that it won't stay nice and true? I assume it is providing a nice seal for the automatic door bottom? I was thinking about doing granite or marble but they seam to be fairly expensive and not very timely to get. Wood is very flexible as far as cutting it to fit but I'm a little worried about it staying true over the long term as well as the wear it would see being in the doorway. Thanks.
post #1053 of 1093
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I used cherry wood for the threshold. It is just stained and sealed. I have not had any issues with the wood so far and could easily refinish if it wears. Granite does seem like a good option and if you could get it the right height and width, you could easily cut the length to fit with a tile saw or angle grinder. I have thought about doing granite but the wood is working fine for me. I did not nail down the wood - it was my intention but did not want to have to fill the holes so I could still slide mine out if I want since I have not finished with the carpet on the outside of the door.
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Originally Posted by Larry M View Post

Stock,
What thickness material did you use to build the arc on your stage?

Been away from the forums lately. I just used regular 1/2 inch OSB to cover the fronts of the steps, the steps themselves are 3/4" flooring with another 3/4" strip screwed to the front to the step has a 1 1/2 inch roundover. I would have used 1 1/2 inch material for normal steps that get lots of use, but there is no reason to use the steps there.
post #1055 of 1093
What is your riser height? Is it 16" OC? Starting mine this weekend
post #1056 of 1093
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My riser is 12" high. I would have liked to have gone higher but I had limited headroom under the soffit. 16" would have been perfect for me for the back row. The back row is slightly obstructed when the seats are not reclined, (almost never). I still plan to raise the back seats up a few inches.
post #1057 of 1093
Just build a couple inch platform under seats, riser will be same height, just seats will be raised. Sure you know this and is what you're gonna do but i like to be Captain Obvious! biggrin.gif
post #1058 of 1093
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Originally Posted by cdika17 View Post

Just build a couple inch platform under seats, riser will be same height, just seats will be raised. Sure you know this and is what you're gonna do but i like to be Captain Obvious! biggrin.gif
Yes that is what I was planning to do.
post #1059 of 1093
Fabulous build! I've just spent the morning reading through the entire thread as I'm just about to start my own build... yours will certainly be in my head as I do it.

A few questions sprang to mind as I was reading:
  • Your IB setup -- do you get any flex in the "cabinet" walls at all? They don't seem as reinforced as some builds I've seen (although the opposing drivers would help counter the mechanical forces I suppose).
  • The access port to the IB cabinet -- why doesn't that pop open? I would have thought any opening in the face of the cabinet would be detrimental?
  • The bass traps -- must admit, I don't fully understand the science, but does any box filled with insulation act as a bass trap? What about a wall? Do you find the room is too "dead" with all that padding?
  • The riser -- is it important to fill it completely with insulation? And why did you put two layers of flooring on the riser (separated by Green Glue)?

Again, congratulations on your build -- simply inspiring.
post #1060 of 1093
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Originally Posted by Johnson4 View Post

Fabulous build! I've just spent the morning reading through the entire thread as I'm just about to start my own build... yours will certainly be in my head as I do it.
A few questions sprang to mind as I was reading:
  • Your IB setup -- do you get any flex in the "cabinet" walls at all? They don't seem as reinforced as some builds I've seen (although the opposing drivers would help counter the mechanical forces I suppose).
  • The access port to the IB cabinet -- why doesn't that pop open? I would have thought any opening in the face of the cabinet would be detrimental?
  • The bass traps -- must admit, I don't fully understand the science, but does any box filled with insulation act as a bass trap? What about a wall? Do you find the room is too "dead" with all that padding?
  • The riser -- is it important to fill it completely with insulation? And why did you put two layers of flooring on the riser (separated by Green Glue)?
Again, congratulations on your build -- simply inspiring.

I have not noticed any flex in the "cabinet" walls at all. As mentioned previously I think it is the most solid structure I have ever built and by my estimation the IB chamber weighs 3000 lbs. The dual opposed drivers do help. The manifold walls are very solid - The manifolds are constructed of 2 layers - one of MDF and another of baltic birch ply. They are also attached to a base that is full of 300lbs of sand. The walls of the IB chamber are triple layered with 2 layers of 5/8 drywall and a layer of OSB with Green Glue between the layers. The access port to the IB "room" is also constructed of 2 layers of MDF with Green Glue between the layers. It has a gasket to prevent air leaks and is screwed into a framework which presses the cover against the gaskets - again it is very solid. It would have been nice to be able to not have the access panel, but I needed some way to access the drivers for installation and to finish off the inside of the room with insulation etc. Most people do not need to climb inside their subwoofer.

The room is not too dead. In fact I still plan to add more bass trapping in the rear - its probably impossible to have too much bass trapping because it takes a lot to be effective at really low frequencies. The rear bass traps might be covered to reflect high frequencies and absorb low.

I built my riser so it could be used as a giant bass trap in the future should I decide to do it. Everybody here seems to fill the riser with insulation and it should help damp some resonances. I figured it was inexpensive to do it before the carpet was in and impossible to do after. The two layers on the floor is just to prevent any rattles in the riser.
post #1061 of 1093
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I had a friend with a good camera come and take some pictures of the room with some better lighting. Not all of these pictures are representative of the color of the room, but they do show details I have not been able to capture with my point and shoot camera. The screenshots were taken with the lighting up in the room so the images are washed out and not representative of the actual video quality.







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Couple more shots of the room and speakers. The first picture with the speaker is a good representation of the carpet color.










Edited by stockmonkey2000 - 1/2/13 at 8:48am
post #1065 of 1093
Very nice Stockmonkey, love the way it turned out.
post #1066 of 1093
Looks fantastic, Stockmonkey. I love the way the room changes depending on your lighting selection. The gold/amber scheme really works with the carpet.
post #1067 of 1093
aaahhh...........i mean..........AAAAHHHH YEAH!

beautiful
post #1068 of 1093
One word....


SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!
post #1069 of 1093
Room looks great sm2k! Love the lighting, especially within the columns - and the panels on the soffits look great too, very nice design.
post #1070 of 1093
I can remember when you were doing research and going through all of the builds. At that time I was finishing up my theater which has been about a year and a half ago. You did a very nice job that I am sure you are very proud of. Congrats!wink.gif
post #1071 of 1093
Very, very, ... nice.


+1 on the bass trapping commentary, ....never enough. A well trapped room strips away the acoustic distortions that plague the LF. Unless one has experienced it at home, or been in a good studio, mastering room etc, hard to explain.


Love the room, pics, PBN's, IB, ceiling,...just monumental, good lookin' out.

One of my all time faves.
post #1072 of 1093
Fantastic, enjoy!
post #1073 of 1093
Great!
post #1074 of 1093
Fantastic room, great photography too! I love this one...Star Trek lens flare.

post #1075 of 1093
Simply Divine! The theater looks amazing.
Great Work, Stockmonkey2000, very inspiring smile.gif
post #1076 of 1093
Looks great! Congrats.

Bud
post #1077 of 1093
How did I miss all of your awesome new photos???!!! Everything looks really nice SM2K. Definitely have that Desert Sunset thing going on! Congratulations on an awesome theater!
post #1078 of 1093
I haven't checked your page in almost 6 months! WOW...

Not only did time fly, but you seem to be living a dream of sorts. How do you find the theatre now, and any tweaks you are doing? Last time we talked you pointed out that being finished was a good thing.
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...While I am enjoying the actual building I am really looking forward to being able to actually use the theater. I'll probably feel somewhat the same way though when it starts to come to an end. I just finished hanging the drywall and have always hated doing drywall in the past. This time I actually enjoyed it simply for the fact that it was part of my theater.

In the end, I still did way more than I could have dreamed I would. Might I presume you will too? wink.gif
post #1079 of 1093
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I thought my theater thread had faded into oblivion - thanks for bringing it back from the dead. I have been enjoying the theater and have still been working on a few tweaks to make it better. I got rid of the surround speakers sitting on the stands and mounted them in the wall - They are a fairly deep speaker so this meant widening the thickness of the back wall - the wall is now 10" deep to accommodate the rear speakers. The other side of the theater was still unfinished so it was not difficult to expand the depth of the wall. The speakers stick out about 4 inches but I'm planning on a 4" thick panel on the back wall that will hide the speakers and also give some more absorption on the back wall. I still need to put in some side surround speakers - I wired for 7.1 but only did a 5.1 setup. 7.1 will make a big difference because it is hard to hear the surround speakers in the front row. I wish I would have just planned the 7.1 from the beginning but I already had all the speakers and equipment for 5.1.
post #1080 of 1093
Hey Stock, what going on? How's your IB treating you?
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