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post #1051 of 1098
I split the output from my receiver and plugged one into each input. So I don't have to do this? I can just use one cable? I'll take a look tonight and see if I can set it up like you stated above. Wouldn't it be beneficial to have the clip limiter on?
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I split the output from my receiver and plugged one into each input. So I don't have to do this? I can just use one cable? I'll take a look tonight and see if I can set it up like you stated above. Wouldn't it be beneficial to have the clip limiter on?

I just checked my settings - they are all switched to the right except 6 and 7. So I do have the clip limiter on. You can run the output of your receiver to input one and run in parallel mode and it will produce the same signal on channel 2.
post #1053 of 1098
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I just checked my settings - they are all switched to the right except 6 and 7. So I do have the clip limiter on. You can run the output of your receiver to input one and run in parallel mode and it will produce the same signal on channel 2.

Awesome! Thanks for the help. I will check mine out tonight and see how they compare and then make the change to what you have.
post #1054 of 1098
Just catching up on your thread. Everything turned out really nicely. Good job.
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SM2K - Why did you pick the DSP1124P for your sub equilization? I am trying to pick between that and the FBQ2496 since I have seen both used. There is about a 50% premium for the FBQ so I'm just curious about your thoughts on the DSP and it's ease of use/capabilities. Thanks.
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SM2K - Why did you pick the DSP1124P for your sub equilization? I am trying to pick between that and the FBQ2496 since I have seen both used. There is about a 50% premium for the FBQ so I'm just curious about your thoughts on the DSP and it's ease of use/capabilities. Thanks.

I bought the 1124p several years ago to EQ a few DIY subs - I picked it up for cheap and it seemed like a good solution at the time. I've looked into other options and might consider something else in the future - I'd really like to get something that I can have multiple settings that can be remote controlled. The only thing I know of that fits that bill right now is the velodyne eq. The remote functionality for that is nice but the actual EQ is less robust than the 1124. The 1124 was difficult for me to figure out but once I got it down its pretty easy. I'm sure there are better options out there, but the 1124 ended up doing the job for me. For the price its hard to beat.
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I bought the 1124p several years ago to EQ a few DIY subs - I picked it up for cheap and it seemed like a good solution at the time. I've looked into other options and might consider something else in the future - I'd really like to get something that I can have multiple settings that can be remote controlled. The only thing I know of that fits that bill right now is the velodyne eq. The remote functionality for that is nice but the actual EQ is less robust than the 1124. The 1124 was difficult for me to figure out but once I got it down its pretty easy. I'm sure there are better options out there, but the 1124 ended up doing the job for me. For the price its hard to beat.

Thanks for the info SM2K - this one is useful to me as well.
post #1058 of 1098
Thanks for the response. I will do a little more research on the 1124p. Since I will need to get a mic and stuff also, the 1124p will allow me to get all of that and probably come in at about the same price as the 2496.
post #1059 of 1098
Take a look here if you haven't yet:

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/bfd-electronic-equalization-devices/59290-bfd-versions-fbq1000-vs-fbq2496.html

I've been using an FBQ2496, works great - but if I had read the above link before I bought, I might choose differently (presets).
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Interesting info - Thanks Brad!
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Take a look here if you haven't yet:
http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/bfd-electronic-equalization-devices/59290-bfd-versions-fbq1000-vs-fbq2496.html
I've been using an FBQ2496, works great - but if I had read the above link before I bought, I might choose differently (presets).

The lack of presets would be a deal killer for me. I have my subs running hot for movies but I also have a flatter music setting. There have been a few times I have run the music setting for a movie because it seemed overboard on the bass. It would be really nice to be able to switch presets by remote.
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SM2k - How are you liking your Jamestown screen now that you have the correct size? Anything you don't like about it? How is the centerstage material?
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Stock,

What thickness material did you use to build the arc on your stage?
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Wow nice room
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SM2K - I was trying to find in your thread what material you used for your door threshold but didn't have any luck. It appears to be wood of some sort. What type is it and did you just stain it? Any worries that it won't stay nice and true? I assume it is providing a nice seal for the automatic door bottom? I was thinking about doing granite or marble but they seam to be fairly expensive and not very timely to get. Wood is very flexible as far as cutting it to fit but I'm a little worried about it staying true over the long term as well as the wear it would see being in the doorway. Thanks.
post #1066 of 1098
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I used cherry wood for the threshold. It is just stained and sealed. I have not had any issues with the wood so far and could easily refinish if it wears. Granite does seem like a good option and if you could get it the right height and width, you could easily cut the length to fit with a tile saw or angle grinder. I have thought about doing granite but the wood is working fine for me. I did not nail down the wood - it was my intention but did not want to have to fill the holes so I could still slide mine out if I want since I have not finished with the carpet on the outside of the door.
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Stock,
What thickness material did you use to build the arc on your stage?

Been away from the forums lately. I just used regular 1/2 inch OSB to cover the fronts of the steps, the steps themselves are 3/4" flooring with another 3/4" strip screwed to the front to the step has a 1 1/2 inch roundover. I would have used 1 1/2 inch material for normal steps that get lots of use, but there is no reason to use the steps there.
post #1068 of 1098
What is your riser height? Is it 16" OC? Starting mine this weekend
post #1069 of 1098
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My riser is 12" high. I would have liked to have gone higher but I had limited headroom under the soffit. 16" would have been perfect for me for the back row. The back row is slightly obstructed when the seats are not reclined, (almost never). I still plan to raise the back seats up a few inches.
post #1070 of 1098
Just build a couple inch platform under seats, riser will be same height, just seats will be raised. Sure you know this and is what you're gonna do but i like to be Captain Obvious! biggrin.gif
post #1071 of 1098
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Just build a couple inch platform under seats, riser will be same height, just seats will be raised. Sure you know this and is what you're gonna do but i like to be Captain Obvious! biggrin.gif
Yes that is what I was planning to do.
post #1072 of 1098
Fabulous build! I've just spent the morning reading through the entire thread as I'm just about to start my own build... yours will certainly be in my head as I do it.

A few questions sprang to mind as I was reading:
  • Your IB setup -- do you get any flex in the "cabinet" walls at all? They don't seem as reinforced as some builds I've seen (although the opposing drivers would help counter the mechanical forces I suppose).
  • The access port to the IB cabinet -- why doesn't that pop open? I would have thought any opening in the face of the cabinet would be detrimental?
  • The bass traps -- must admit, I don't fully understand the science, but does any box filled with insulation act as a bass trap? What about a wall? Do you find the room is too "dead" with all that padding?
  • The riser -- is it important to fill it completely with insulation? And why did you put two layers of flooring on the riser (separated by Green Glue)?

Again, congratulations on your build -- simply inspiring.
post #1073 of 1098
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Fabulous build! I've just spent the morning reading through the entire thread as I'm just about to start my own build... yours will certainly be in my head as I do it.
A few questions sprang to mind as I was reading:
  • Your IB setup -- do you get any flex in the "cabinet" walls at all? They don't seem as reinforced as some builds I've seen (although the opposing drivers would help counter the mechanical forces I suppose).
  • The access port to the IB cabinet -- why doesn't that pop open? I would have thought any opening in the face of the cabinet would be detrimental?
  • The bass traps -- must admit, I don't fully understand the science, but does any box filled with insulation act as a bass trap? What about a wall? Do you find the room is too "dead" with all that padding?
  • The riser -- is it important to fill it completely with insulation? And why did you put two layers of flooring on the riser (separated by Green Glue)?
Again, congratulations on your build -- simply inspiring.

I have not noticed any flex in the "cabinet" walls at all. As mentioned previously I think it is the most solid structure I have ever built and by my estimation the IB chamber weighs 3000 lbs. The dual opposed drivers do help. The manifold walls are very solid - The manifolds are constructed of 2 layers - one of MDF and another of baltic birch ply. They are also attached to a base that is full of 300lbs of sand. The walls of the IB chamber are triple layered with 2 layers of 5/8 drywall and a layer of OSB with Green Glue between the layers. The access port to the IB "room" is also constructed of 2 layers of MDF with Green Glue between the layers. It has a gasket to prevent air leaks and is screwed into a framework which presses the cover against the gaskets - again it is very solid. It would have been nice to be able to not have the access panel, but I needed some way to access the drivers for installation and to finish off the inside of the room with insulation etc. Most people do not need to climb inside their subwoofer.

The room is not too dead. In fact I still plan to add more bass trapping in the rear - its probably impossible to have too much bass trapping because it takes a lot to be effective at really low frequencies. The rear bass traps might be covered to reflect high frequencies and absorb low.

I built my riser so it could be used as a giant bass trap in the future should I decide to do it. Everybody here seems to fill the riser with insulation and it should help damp some resonances. I figured it was inexpensive to do it before the carpet was in and impossible to do after. The two layers on the floor is just to prevent any rattles in the riser.
post #1074 of 1098
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I had a friend with a good camera come and take some pictures of the room with some better lighting. Not all of these pictures are representative of the color of the room, but they do show details I have not been able to capture with my point and shoot camera. The screenshots were taken with the lighting up in the room so the images are washed out and not representative of the actual video quality.







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Couple more shots of the room and speakers. The first picture with the speaker is a good representation of the carpet color.










Edited by stockmonkey2000 - 1/2/13 at 8:48am
post #1078 of 1098
Very nice Stockmonkey, love the way it turned out.
post #1079 of 1098
Looks fantastic, Stockmonkey. I love the way the room changes depending on your lighting selection. The gold/amber scheme really works with the carpet.
post #1080 of 1098
aaahhh...........i mean..........AAAAHHHH YEAH!

beautiful
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