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post #571 of 1098
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The doorbell is wired in the soffit but I have not hooked it up the other end yet. My transformer is in the room right next to the theater so I will hook it up directly to the transformer.
post #572 of 1098
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Originally Posted by JamesB77 View Post

The room's looking great. To put in a door bell ringer did you just connect it to the other one in the house or did you wire a new one? I was thinking of doing the same thing.

One of my greatest pleasures is that I have no clue when the doorbell rings...so very rarely is it anyone at all I care to talk to. If I know someone is coming over I greet them, otherwise...I am not buying it, and no I won't convert. The idea of making your doorbell more useful to you while in your theatre room is a cool challenge. Not for me though. hahaha My wife calls me a Nerd Hermit!

Fantastic work on your theatre!!! It has come so far, very impressive!!!
post #573 of 1098
I didn't even put a doorbell in my house. Best thing was when I inadvertently disconnected the phone. We didn't get any calls for three days until I figured it out.
post #574 of 1098
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One of my greatest pleasures is that I have no clue when the doorbell rings...so very rarely is it anyone at all I care to talk to. If I know someone is coming over I greet them, otherwise...I am not buying it, and no I won't convert. The idea of making your doorbell more useful to you while in your theatre room is a cool challenge. Not for me though. hahaha My wife calls me a Nerd Hermit!

Fantastic work on your theatre!!! It has come so far, very impressive!!!

I get that and had the same thought. I think most of the time I'd rather not hear it. However If I'm having a movie night with friends coming over I would rather be able to wait in the theater listening to music or something than waiting upstairs for everyone to arrive.
post #575 of 1098
I also have family, friends and neighbours randomly stop by every now and again. I may hook up a camera at the door as well so if the doorbell goes I can see who it is without having to leave the theater.
post #576 of 1098
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I think I'm a few weeks away from the point where I can have carpet installed and am inclined to go with the carpet in the photo below. I am wondering if the pattern will be too distracting if I have it go up on the stage. I was wondering if it would be a better idea to do the stage in a black carpet and have the rest of the theater with the patterned carpet. Any thoughts on this?

post #577 of 1098
Just my $0.02 but I really like the look of black carpet on the stage- it just sets the whole front wall off and says "hey look at me." You have a really nice carpet choice there and I think it will make a very cool contrast.
post #578 of 1098
The carpet sample looks green on my screen but I am not sure that it is accurate. If I am seeing it correctly then I vote for stage and all to be the same. I have seen several builds on here where they use black for the stage and I personally don't care for it. The only time I think it looks ok is when the main carpet area is dark as well (shades of gray and black). I think you will be just fine doing it all the same.
post #579 of 1098
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you have a really nice carpet choice there and i think it will make a very cool contrast.

+1
post #580 of 1098
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The carpet does have a green hue to it but is pretty dark and does match the colors of the walls and fabric I've chosen. One concern I have with continuing the carpet up the stage is the pattern will be impossible to line up on the curve of the stage. Sometimes this is not an issue but on some patterns that can be distracting.
post #581 of 1098
Damelon has a small pattern on his carpet and I don't think it is distracting on the stage portion.
post #582 of 1098
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One concern I have with continuing the carpet up the stage is the pattern will be impossible to line up on the curve of the stage. Sometimes this is not an issue but on some patterns that can be distracting.

A buddy I work with used to install carpet and he says anyone worth anything can make the patterns work around the curve. He says there all kinds of things that they can do like making little cuts and inserting pieces to extend or sometimes cutting out little sections and piecing it together to make it smaller. If they match up the floor and the top of the stage/steps, they can make the curve work.
post #583 of 1098
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Originally Posted by tlogan6797 View Post

A buddy I work with used to install carpet and he says anyone worth anything can make the patterns work around the curve. He says there all kinds of things that they can do like making little cuts and inserting pieces to extend or sometimes cutting out little sections and piecing it together to make it smaller. If they match up the floor and the top of the stage/steps, they can make the curve work.

I would love it if I can find someone that can make it work. Now if I can just find the person that can do it. I have little faith that the installer they send me is going to care to put in that effort. I'm willing to pay extra for it if they can make it work though.
post #584 of 1098
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I did not get a full Saturday to work on the theater but did managed to get a few things done. I got the front and back soffits filled with insulation for bass trapping and got a start on the riser.



post #585 of 1098
That riser looks huge! How big is that thing?
post #586 of 1098
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It is huge. My wife said the same thing. Its about 10 x 11. There will be about 4 feet of space behind the rear row of seating. This puts my front row at 13 feet from the 10' wide screen which is a viewing angle of 42 degrees (seated upright on 2:40 material) 2nd row will be 19' which is a 30 degree viewing angle seated upright. There will be about 4 feet of space behind the second row.
post #587 of 1098
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's going to have a huge riser. It's looking good.

I have a quick question about your Fosi light source. How much heat does it generate?
post #588 of 1098
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Originally Posted by JamesB77 View Post

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's going to have a huge riser. It's looking good.

I have a quick question about your Fosi light source. How much heat does it generate?

My FOSI illuminator is LED. I have never really noticed much heat from it at all. I'm sure it heats up a bit but it's minimal enough that I've never really paid much attention to it.
post #589 of 1098
I can't remember if you said or not but did you swap the light source for the FOSI or did it come with the LED already?
post #590 of 1098
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I can't remember if you said or not but did you swap the light source for the FOSI or did it come with the LED already?

I did not customize the bulb it came from FOSI with the LED light source. The only customization I did was the delay for the shooting star and added a second wire to separate the bulb from the motor. Fosi would have added the wire but I forgot to mention it when I placed my order.

The LED bulb has multiple LED emitters totaling 23 watts. The HID bulb from FOSI is 25 watts. FOSI said that the HID is a bit brighter than the LED. I had concerns with the color temperature of the LED being different than the HID and they said that both bulbs emit a warm white light and they apply a color correction filter to both the LED and HID to make a whiter light.

One other thing I'm not sure if I mentioned earlier. The illuminator is 12" by 12" and would not fit in my soffit. FOSI was able to make my box 10" by 12" so it would fit the height of my soffit.
post #591 of 1098
From my experience about patterns and colors that are on the darker side, you don't notice it once the lights turn off.

The only light coming from the room will be the reflection off the screen. If it's a dark scene, there's little that will reflect from project->screen->floor->eye to notice the pattern and if it's a bright scene the brightness of the screen will overpower carper. Also the second row will probably not be able to see the stage while sitting down.

The only exception to this rule is if a surface is a glossy surface. Back when I was designing my theater I traveled to Cedia & CES every year and saw countless demo rooms. Many of those rooms are blacked out so you get sucked into the experience and don't pay attention to things around the room. Not all do this and I noticed a reoccurring annoyance. As an example, Mcintosh had a coffered ceiling with a glossy trim and tile panels. I can't tell you how annoying it was to be listening to some incredible $180k speakers and then suddenly there's a flash of brighter light on the screen and what stood out to me more was a grid pattern of reflection on the ceiling, it ruined the overall experience for me and once you get bit with that bug you want to avoid it. -- So what I'm saying is don't worry about pattern on dark carpet, that is far down on the list of things that might undesirably catch you eye during a moving.
post #592 of 1098
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Originally Posted by distoga View Post

From my experience about patterns and colors that are on the darker side, you don't notice it once the lights turn off.

The only light coming from the room will be the reflection off the screen. If it's a dark scene, there's little that will reflect from project->screen->floor->eye to notice the pattern and if it's a bright scene the brightness of the screen will overpower carper. Also the second row will probably not be able to see the stage while sitting down.

I'm a bit worried how the underside of my soffit is going to reflect the light from the screen. While the woodwork is not glossy it is light enough that it will reflect light. I thought about painting the underside of the soffit in the front of the room with a flat black paint but did not think it would look good. I wanted the woodwork on the soffit to be lighter to create some visual interest in the room and not just be a black cave. I guess I'll have to see how it looks in action and see if changes are warranted. I do want the room to look good with the lights on as well as off.
post #593 of 1098
Hey there stockmonkey,

I got a question. . . over in James's build u were talking about ur star ceiling being on a occupancy sensor? did that interfere with it being on ur GE system for light control? my room is going to be on a wave network controlled by a wave wall scene controllers and irule like the rest of the house. would i be able to put it on an occupancy sensor and also control it then when needed? U guys have me thinning about a star ceiling now. I just don't know if I can pull it off. I have those 2 distinct areas in my ceiling being that the beam splits the room. this might be a nice way to dress up the ceiling.

Thanks,
jim
post #594 of 1098
As you know I have the same issue as you with the 2 distinct areas of ceiling. At first I was just going to to do the ceiling in the first section. If you have a look at Moggie's thread he has 2 distinct areas as well and it was looking through his thread that convinced me to do it in both sections. Depending on who you go with you can get a drilling template that will make the two sections look like one continuous section of sky.
post #595 of 1098
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Originally Posted by jimim View Post

Hey there stockmonkey,

I got a question. . . over in James's build u were talking about ur star ceiling being on a occupancy sensor? did that interfere with it being on ur GE system for light control? my room is going to be on a wave network controlled by a wave wall scene controllers and irule like the rest of the house. would i be able to put it on an occupancy sensor and also control it then when needed? U guys have me thinning about a star ceiling now. I just don't know if I can pull it off. I have those 2 distinct areas in my ceiling being that the beam splits the room. this might be a nice way to dress up the ceiling.

Thanks,
jim

My illuminator from FOSI has separate power connection for the bulb and motor. I did it that way so the bulb could be dimmed by the grafik eye but the motor would not be dimmed. The motor is hooked to an occupancy sensor. The reason I hooked it to the occupancy sensor is so I would not forget it and leave the motor running all the time. With the sensor the motor only runs when someone is in the room. This is all theoretical at this point as I will not have the sensor hooked up until I get my columns installed. If you get the illuminator from FOSI they will wire the motor and lamp separately. I discussed having the separate wiring with FOSI and then forgot to mention it when I placed my order. It was easy to drill the hole and re-wire the box to separate the power .
post #596 of 1098
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Originally Posted by JamesB77 View Post

As you know I have the same issue as you with the 2 distinct areas of ceiling. At first I was just going to to do the ceiling in the first section. If you have a look at Moggie's thread he has 2 distinct areas as well and it was looking through his thread that convinced me to do it in both sections. Depending on who you go with you can get a drilling template that will make the two sections look like one continuous section of sky.

I was going to have two separate sections like moggie so my projector would be closer to the screen. When all was said and done I was worried about the headroom above the seating so I moved the projector to the rear soffit. It is a little further back than ideal but should still work out just fine.
post #597 of 1098
THanks for the info Stock and James. I din't know that about the motor and the illuminator. I'll take a closer look at Moggie's thread. I never paid attention to the details re: his ceiling cause a star ceiling wasn't in my head.

Thanks again,
jim
post #598 of 1098
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Finished framing the riser.





post #599 of 1098
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Here is a shot of the riser as you walk in the room.

post #600 of 1098
Sitting on that riser is going to be awesome during movies as its gunna shake rattle and roll with your IB subs.

I call middle back seat
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