Originally Posted by DanLW
99% of rooms have bad acoustics. The only ones with good acoustics are the ones which have been designed and/or treated to improve acoustics. I'd dig up the Dolby manual for recording studio room design, but I don't see the point.
I can't believe you're still saying all speakers produce 50Hz the same. I went over that in length with you, even posted pictures in posts 116 and 127. I gave you links to well written articles on audio theory from Audioholics back in post 83. All we're doing is chasing our tails, going around and around in circles, and the same questions keep coming up.
Read this small excerpt from the Audioholics 2010 Speaker Faceoff:
Full article here: http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/s...ff-comparisons
These tests were done under highly controlled conditions in a room which was professionally acoustically treated. How can you explain the differences these people heard? Are they lying? Are they crazy? Or are they telling the truth? If you can believe they are telling the truth, then you need to drop the whole "all speakers play 50Hz the same" mantra. If you don't, there's no point in any of us continuing this discussion.
At least some people here have learned things, like Skrillex back in post 173. Other than that, this thread is a real train wreck... I don't want to watch, but I can't look away.
I am know officially confirming to everyone that I believe you when you say speakers sound different and I can hear the difference between speakers in side by side comparisons I am just saying the differences are just that different and dont sound like one is better than the other.
You keep saying 50hz like it can sound any different way. 50hz is always 50hz it can't play it differently or its not 50hz. I already agreed with you awhile back that they play other sounds with it those masking the original sound but to me this is the same as playing the guitar and someone talking while they are playing its ruining the performance but is not altering the sound of the guitar's sound waves as they go through the air they are just being superimposed.
Also what those people said about the speakers is not measurable. Words like Compressed, boxy, and brash need some clarification or they are just opinion.
I would assume by design a high frequency is bright, what do they mean by accurate do they know how sounds are supposed to sound all the time were they there in the studio and heard the original how do they know its accurate.
Sound has no size so it can't have width. What does better highs and mids mean all I can think of is louder. Either it plays them or not.
Crisp is a meaningless word as well and is better for describing food. Forward projected once again sound has nothing to do with size sounds feel closer when they are louder you can not hear depth there is something to refelctions that aids in if the sound is really close or not but this depends on reflections not the speakers.
Lower bass is deeper bass its just a term we say when hearing low frequencies either it plays it or not. Rich is another meaningless word. Image has to do with sight not sound. Soundstage has to do with the recording and the timing between when the left and right channels signal a sound to be played so as long as you have two speakers any stereo can do this.
Better bass control can it not tame it.
Trumpets dont have a patent on certain frequencies so this would apply to other instruments as well.
Dynamic I have listened to piano recordings on ipod headphones and can hear when they are playing louder or softer if this were true it would be like saying cheap speakers can play one voluime and more expensive speakers can play more volume levels
Imaged balanced once again the recording determines what levels each speaker plays so all things being equal the speakers wouldnt be a problem.
Dont think I said those things as fact but thats what went through my head when I read that and its that kinda of talk that lead me to this forum it doesnt make since and it sounds like wishful thinking when there isnt really anything there.