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post #1441 of 1824
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Originally Posted by Joseph Dubin View Post

Hi Ghpr,

Was thinking of you when I read that article. Since he is obviously a big fan of comic book movies I thought his observations wouldn't be biased against that genre of films like those who only prefer seeing literary stimulating types. Was therefore surprised when his preference was for the 2D version.

He was not coming down on the 3D transfer (citing it was quite good) as much as saying it just didn't add anything to the experience. That, in itself, is something considering one would think that an action, adventure fantasy film would be enhanced by the 3D experience. As a comic book movie maven, he found the action scenes better viewed in 2D due to the loss of detail, clarity and brightness. That's similar to what many said about Coroline - losing some of the artistic beauty of the animation due to darkened and washed out color.

If you linked onto his full review of the movie you'll notice in the comment section that more than a few said they would save a few dollars (or British pounds) and take the family to see the 2D version since the 3D actually immersed the author less into the action than did 2D. Again, those comments were from other comic book movie mavens like the author.

Guess that confirms that in order for top quality films like THOR to fully excel in 3D, they will also have to be filmed in 3D. For the industry, that might be cost prohibitive to do on a regular basis and thus less films like Avatar and Alice In Wonderland and more bummers like the Green Hornet or the recently opened Road Rage. We will have to see from the box office results and audience responses to determine if 3D in itself is no longer a selling point on it's own and fans might now be demanding the high quality effects only achievable in specifically filming a movie in actual 3D along with equally high quality scripts before spending the extra dollars at the box office.

This is what killed 3D in past decades. There were few Avatars and more Green Hornets and thus the novelty wore off. It's more Avatars and less Green Hornets that needs to sustain it.

Joe,
Yesterday I went and seen Thor in 2D. IMO, the movie was great. Very well done over all. Now I've been a Thor comic book fan since my childhood. Thor was the number one comic book I always read, so I have been really waiting for this movie to come out. I was not disappointed. Maybe some might think I basis, but I really enjoyed it.

The real reason I chose 2D over 3D (and I was really tempted to see the 3D) was because a number of critics who reviewed Thor all said the same thing, that 2D added nothing to the overall enjoyment or story of the movie. The 2 critics from "At the Movies", both said they wish they had seen it in 2D instead of 3D.

Maybe, just maybe, I might go and see Thor in 3D, and make my own comparison...even if I have to pay a little more than the 2D price.

Ghpr13
post #1442 of 1824
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Joe,
Yesterday I went and seen Thor in 2D. IMO, the movie was great. Very well done over all. Now I've been a Thor comic book fan since my childhood. Thor was the number one comic book I always read, so I have been really waiting for this movie to come out. I was not disappointed. Maybe some might think I basis, but I really enjoyed it.

The real reason I chose 2D over 3D (and I was really tempted to see the 3D) was because a number of critics who reviewed Thor all said the same thing, that 2D added nothing to the overall enjoyment or story of the movie. The 2 critics from "At the Movies", both said they wish they had seen it in 2D instead of 3D.

Maybe, just maybe, I might go and see Thor in 3D, and make my own comparison...even if I have to pay a little more than the 2D price.

Ghpr13
Hi Ghpr,

Glad you enjoyed the movie. I enjoy those types of films too as long as they are done well. Never read Thor which started in 1962 because by that time my comic book habits were entrenched with DC superheros like Superman, Batman and the Justice League of America. Archie doesn't count!

Regarding the growing opinion that 3D added nothing to this particular film, I think many forget how much the audio dramatically makes one feel they are in center the action. Audio effects coming from all directions in front and behind emmersing one into the action was always considered an enhancement and not a gimmick. I know all us James Bond fans replaced our original mono titles when the new DVDs were released in DTS and Dolby Digital 5.1. It will be a good litmus test to see how many owners of 3D equipment do the same for films reprocessed in 3D (i.e., Star Wars, etc.) and to get their opinions on whether or not it enhanced their viewing experience.
post #1443 of 1824
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Originally Posted by Joseph Dubin View Post
Hi Ghpr,

Glad you enjoyed the movie. I enjoy those types of films too as long as they are done well. Never read Thor which started in 1962 because by that time my comic book habits were entrenched with DC superheros like Superman, Batman and the Justice League of America. Archie doesn't count!

Regarding the growing opinion that 3D added nothing to this particular film, I think many forget how much the audio dramatically makes one feel they are in center the action. Audio effects coming from all directions in front and behind emmersing one into the action was always considered an enhancement and not a gimmick. I know all us James Bond fans replaced our original mono titles when the new DVDs were released in DTS and Dolby Digital 5.1. It will be a good litmus test to see how many owners of 3D equipment do the same for films reprocessed in 3D (i.e., Star Wars, etc.) and to get their opinions on whether or not it enhanced their viewing experience.
Joe,
I agree with you. When surround sound came out it added so much to the movie experience and I was so anxious to have surround sound at home...maybe too anxious, when I think back to my Quad system!

Ghpr13
post #1444 of 1824
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Joe,
I agree with you. When surround sound came out it added so much to the movie experience and I was so anxious to have surround sound at home...maybe too anxious, when I think back to my Quad system!

Ghpr13
G,

Actually in some ways your quad system was more advanced than surround sound. Though it lacked a center speaker, quad did have two discrete rear speakers whereas surround sound blended the two channels together.

When I first discovered that my old Craig receiver with discrete processing was actually compatible with Dolby Surround I was extactic and began watching as many as my old VHS tapes as possible, thrilled every time the U.S.S. Enterprise zoomed by my ears! I even re-arranged my living room furniture in order to properly create a home theater environment, this just a year after my first hernia operation!
post #1445 of 1824
Joe,
Take a look at this link...It's about a 3D converter box that will allow you to use your regular 2D HDTV to watch 3D. You still need a 3D Blu-Ray player, if you want to see 3D via a BR disc.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/3d-techn...ml#post2538675

Ghpr13
post #1446 of 1824
Hi Gh,

All along there have been some in these forums saying such devices would be impossible to produce because 3D required a 240hz refresh rate along with other internal processing. This unit proves that not to be the case since it can be used on sets with 60hz refresh rates which actually makes 3D viewing much easier on the eyes.

Definitely a device, however, we won't see at the local Walmart - not with it's estimated $5,000 price tag. Meant more for those who have sets like the BeoVision 10, etc.


http://www.cepro.com/article/3d_mana...d-capable_sets
post #1447 of 1824
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Originally Posted by Joseph Dubin View Post

Hi Gh,

All along there have been some in these forums saying such devices would be impossible to produce because 3D required a 240hz refresh rate along with other internal processing. This unit proves that not to be the case since it can be used on sets with 60hz refresh rates which actually makes 3D viewing much easier on the eyes.

Definitely a device, however, we won't see at the local Walmart - not with it's estimated $5,000 price tag. Meant more for those who have sets like the BeoVision 10, etc.


http://www.cepro.com/article/3d_mana...d-capable_sets

Joe,
The converter box in that article is only $499.00, still not cheap, but if this can work as good as the two reviewers said it worked, and work like that consistently, it beats the price of a new 3DTV. Also, it could give an added boost to 3DTV for those sitting on the fence, and specially those who have HDTVs that are only a few years old.

I don't know if you read through the postings on that thread, but what I noticed was still a number of posters that felt even with a low price way to get 3DTV, they still were not interested. This coming from a forum that is all about satellite TV and HDTV. Like AVS members, the members at SatelliteGuys.US have some major bucks invested into video and audio equipment, and picture/sound quality is always at the top of their list.

Ghpr13
post #1448 of 1824
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Joe,
The converter box in that article is only $499.00, still not cheap, but if this can work as good as the two reviewers said it worked, and work like that consistently, it beats the price of a new 3DTV. Also, it could give an added boost to 3DTV for those sitting on the fence, and specially those who have HDTVs that are only a few years old.

I don't know if you read through the postings on that thread, but what I noticed was still a number of posters that felt even with a low price way to get 3DTV, they still were not interested. This coming from a forum that is all about satellite TV and HDTV. Like AVS members, the members at SatelliteGuys.US have some major bucks invested into video and audio equipment, and picture/sound quality is always at the top of their list.

Ghpr13

Hi Gh,

Though interested in adding a converter box to my system, at this point it's not cost efficient for most of us to invest $499 for the limited use it's going to apply.

There were also problems noted by the reviewer which seemed not to be at issue with the multi-unit device I posted, which, of course, sells for ten times the cost. But wasn't it interesting how that more expensive device reduced eyestrain?

However, both devices are first generation and has the potential to become a big seller if the cost comes down and more quality-type 3D content becomes available. As I've professed before, with the limited uses of 3D viewing, one not really interested in 3D might be apt to purchase an inexpensive device such as this as lark since it won't be a big investment.

That, in turn, might be the impetus that enables 3D to become another basic feature in one's home theater system One could purchase the device for his or her current set and save money down the road buying a less expensive non-3D unit and using this instead. Also, it could be used on all televisions.

Wonder if those in the television manufacturing industry see this as a threat to future profits. If they are smart, they might do the same as the movie industry did 60 years ago when it perceived the television industry as a threat and embrace. It is more likely that consumers will keep their current monitors much longer than the seven years projected by the industry and thus selling a 3D device for $150 purchased by many is better than selling a much more expensive 3D monitor purchased by very few.
post #1449 of 1824
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Originally Posted by Joseph Dubin View Post

Hi Gh,...
Wonder if those in the television manufacturing industry see this as a threat to future profits. If they are smart, they might do the same as the movie industry did 60 years ago when it perceived the television industry as a threat and embrace. It is more likely that consumers will keep their current monitors much longer than the seven years projected by the industry and thus selling a 3D device for $150 purchased by many is better than selling a much more expensive 3D monitor purchased by very few.

Joe,
That thought enter my mind too.
If the manufacturer of this $499.00 unit can over come it's short comings, it would be a slap in the face to the CE manufacturers that are trying to get consumers to purchase 3DTVs.
I would think could this converter would be a welcome addition to help the spread of 3DTV by allowing consumers who have an interest in 3DTV, but not the cash, to at least try 3DTV at a more reachable price point.
The trouble is 3DTV stills depends on the medium available, and even as some 3DTV enthusiast continue to claim that there is a lot of 3D out there for home viewing, I still think the fate of 3DTV lies in the hands of Hollywood.
If Hollywood continues to put out post production 3D movies, where the effects look campy, or doesn't add to the movie, then 3D will stays like it always been, just a gimmick. It might be a better gimmick with today's technology in CGI, but still a gimmick. Hollywood needs to produce more Avatars. Hell, they need to produce another Avatar!
It's like the used to say about programing computers, "Garbage in, garbage out."

Ghpr13
post #1450 of 1824
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Joe,
That thought enter my mind too.
If the manufacturer of this $499.00 unit can over come it's short comings, it would be a slap in the face to the CE manufacturers that are trying to get consumers to purchase 3DTVs.
I would think could this converter would be a welcome addition to help the spread of 3DTV by allowing consumers who have an interest in 3DTV, but not the cash, to at least try 3DTV at a more reachable price point.
The trouble is 3DTV stills depends on the medium available, and even as some 3DTV enthusiast continue to claim that there is a lot of 3D out there for home viewing, I still think the fate of 3DTV lies in the hands of Hollywood.
If Hollywood continues to put out post production 3D movies, where the effects look campy, or doesn't add to the movie, then 3D will stays like it always been, just a gimmick. It might be a better gimmick with today's technology in CGI, but still a gimmick. Hollywood needs to produce more Avatars. Hell, they need to produce another Avatar!
It's like the used to say about programing computers, "Garbage in, garbage out."

Ghpr13

HI Gh,

Great minds think alike!

Yes, in order for any 3D to succeed, there has to be quality as well as quantity. That mistake led to the failure of 3D in the fifites and has been repeated ever since. It can't be left to the Green Hornets of the world nor the THORs that are better off seen in 2D (according to the fans). Neither would be 3D presentations of "The Kings Speech", etc. be of interest.

In less than two months Wimbleton is scheduled to be presented in 3D in movie theaters - will be interesting to see how many tennis fans this draws and their reactions after seeing it. Might get a good perspective of how well received it is for sports.

Joe
post #1451 of 1824
I also opted to see Thor in 2D when I had the chance to see both. 3D is still just too distracting for me when it's tacked on to a movie that really was never meant to use it in the first place.

I don't like how all these Superhero movies somehow become more "special" when they say Thor.. IN 3D, when really it's a good movie on it's own right and actually less special in 3D..Almost feeling more gimmicky.

I'm just glad Christopher Nolan is doing Batman Rising in 2D... Although I won't be upset if he wants to shoot the majority of the film with IMAX cameras
post #1452 of 1824
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I also opted to see Thor in 2D when I had the chance to see both. 3D is still just too distracting for me when it's tacked on to a movie that really was never meant to use it in the first place.

The decision to convert to 3D was made before principal photography started. So it wasn't "tacked on" as you infer. There are advantages and disadvantages to shooting in 3D like there are converting to 3D

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I don't like how all these Superhero movies somehow become more "special" when they say Thor.. IN 3D, when really it's a good movie on it's own right and actually less special in 3D..Almost feeling more gimmicky.

People do have a choice whether to see them in 2D or 3D. There has yet to be a 3D film that has only been shown in 3D. If you are not a proponent of 3D, and your posting definitely leans that way, then to you 3D isn't your bag. But for others like me, 3D is special and I will always see a 3D presentation over a 2D one.

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I'm just glad Christopher Nolan is doing Batman Rising in 2D... Although I won't be upset if he wants to shoot the majority of the film with IMAX cameras

Hope your local IMAX theater hasn't converted from 15/70 to digital. This is happening all over the country in an effort to save money. Shooting in IMAX 15/70 can only be appreciated at an IMAX 15/70 theater. And their future is highly endangered. Within a few years they will be extinct.
post #1453 of 1824
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I also opted to see Thor in 2D when I had the chance to see both. 3D is still just too distracting for me when it's tacked on to a movie that really was never meant to use it in the first place.

I don't like how all these Superhero movies somehow become more "special" when they say Thor.. IN 3D, when really it's a good movie on it's own right and actually less special in 3D..Almost feeling more gimmicky.

I'm just glad Christopher Nolan is doing Batman Rising in 2D... Although I won't be upset if he wants to shoot the majority of the film with IMAX cameras

John Foster,
I don't know if you seen my posting a few posting backs about the critics that reviewed THOR, all of them said that they wish they would have seen Thor in 2D instead of 3D. They said the 3D added nothing to the movie.

Ghpr13
post #1454 of 1824
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John Foster,
I don't know if you seen my posting a few posting backs about the critics that reviewed THOR, all of them said that they wish they would have seen Thor in 2D instead of 3D. They said the 3D added nothing to the movie.

Ghpr13
John,

Also see my post number 1437 for a review of both versions from a comic book movie maven and the replies as well.

Gh,

Were there other films that got great reviews but which the 2D was preferred over the 3D version? Don't mean bummers like Clash of the Titans or Green Hornet but others like Thor and Coroline.

Joe
post #1455 of 1824
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Originally Posted by Joseph Dubin View Post
John,

Also see my post number 1437 for a review of both versions from a comic book movie maven and the replies as well.

Gh,

Were there other films that got great reviews but which the 2D was preferred over the 3D version? Don't mean bummers like Clash of the Titans or Green Hornet but others like Thor and Coroline.

Joe
I heard of some reviews on Coroline that stated the 3D version was definitely darker (not as bright) as the 2D version...colors looked a little washed out.

I'm like you Joe, in that I'm waiting till someone starts to breakdown the box office receipts into 2D vs 3D. You can't tell me that no one is tracking these figures. Hell, these theaters keep reports on which sells more Goobers or Raisinets, so you know they have a breakdown on 2D tickets vs 3D tickets. I just can't understand how this info keeps locked up somewhere...Maybe it will show up on Wikileaks.

Ghpr13
post #1456 of 1824
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.. Shooting in IMAX 15/70 can only be appreciated at an IMAX 15/70 theater. And their future is highly endangered. Within a few years they will be extinct.

I'm not even sure if I would be able to see it in IMAX (none besides a Science Theater IMAX near me). I just love the way IMAX Blu Ray looks.. The clarity is spectacular.

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The decision to convert to 3D was made before principal photography started. So it wasn't "tacked on" as you infer.

"Tacked on" was definitely a bad choice of phrase there so excuse my ignorance. I'm still just waiting for a film that either benefits from 3D in my eyes or absolutely blows my mind because the 3D in the film is so breathtaking.

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John,
Also see my post number 1437 for a review of both versions from a comic book movie maven and the replies as well.

Thanks Joseph, I'll definitely check it out.
post #1457 of 1824
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Originally Posted by Ghpr13 View Post

I heard of some reviews on Coroline that stated the 3D version was definitely darker (not as bright) as the 2D version...colors looked a little washed out.

I'm like you Joe, in that I'm waiting till someone starts to breakdown the box office receipts into 2D vs 3D. You can't tell me that no one is tracking these figures. Hell, these theaters keep reports on which sells more Goobers or Raisinets, so you know they have a breakdown on 2D tickets vs 3D tickets. I just can't understand how this info keeps locked up somewhere...Maybe it will show up on Wikileaks.

Ghpr13

Hi Gh,

Early this year we tried to determine how well 3D did at the box office in 2010 not based on actual revenue but attendance figures. No statistical breakdowns were released publicly but taking into account the average price of admission increased approximately 15 percent I concluded (based on the revenue figures given) that it was quite conceivable there might have been an actual drop in attendance. The fact that no actual attendance figure was available got me suspicious that the growing revenue number was used to produce false conception about public interest (for the same reason shipment figures for 3D monitors in lieu of retail sales are used).

Posted articles from prominent media sources raising the same question. Charts showing downward trends were also presented. Even one executive said something like attendance figures are nice but not when wants to make money (i.e., less paying more is better than more paying less, IMHO a very short sighted business approach for long-term growth). Others in the forum provided differing, valid points of view as well, including the fact that the biggest increase was for Imax and that other theaters hadn't raised ticket prices equally as high. But if you recall, instead of just disagreeing with me, certain individuals decided to respond with personal attacks that were insulting, degraded my character and totally uncalled for.

So I'm going to pass from re-opening the subject until more revenue or actual attendance figures come through.

Joe
post #1458 of 1824
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I'm not even sure if I would be able to see it in IMAX (none besides a Science Theater IMAX near me). I just love the way IMAX Blu Ray looks.. The clarity is spectacular.

Watching a movie at home on a display measured in inches in 1920 x 1080 resolution, pales in comparison to seeing content that is shot in IMAX 15/70 on a screen that is 5 to 8 STORIES high with a resolution of 12,000 x 8,700.

NOTE: The new Mission Impossible 4 movie will have IMAX 15/70 scenes like The Dark Knight did.

All they have to do to get a high quality transfer from 35mm is to scan it at 4K instead of the normal 2K. This oversampling (HD = 2K) gives the very best transfer from a pristine 35mm film element. The reason why they don't do it often is because it is much more expensive.

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I'm still just waiting for a film that either benefits from 3D in my eyes or absolutely blows my mind because the 3D in the film is so breathtaking.

That would be a subjective issue.
post #1459 of 1824
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Thanks so much..., you're not really maladjusted at all!
Sorry for late reply JD,Yea maybe i should change it too re-adjusted after the HD3D shock LOL,(actually my avatar is the name of an album & my sig. a song title,both by Morrissey).Cheers Joseph Dubin;20352758
post #1460 of 1824
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Sorry for late reply JD,Yea maybe i should change it too re-adjusted after the HD3D shock LOL,(actually my avatar is the name of an album & my sig. a song title,both by Morrissey).Cheers Joseph Dubin;20352758
Naw, keep it as is - after all, that 3D shock you're suffering might have been brought on by the industry for as the lyricist might have phrased their intentions: "I praise the day that brings you pain").
post #1461 of 1824
Just a post of a TV i seen in a fairly well known electrical shop in my area,here goes:PANASONIC,42"FullHD-3D,THX pic certified,600hz,Ultra slim etc & free PANA 3d BDP.Not sure of exact model but it was on display as a "special" BNIB.Cost 700.00....Maybe COs are panicking with unsold stock,im not nearly sure but Judging by this sort of price-cutting it may be viable for people with older kit to go 3D as most new stuff is 3D anyway.This would be considered a huge bargain at the moment in IRELAND.TBH i asked the manager had he a 46" model & he said it was available only as a 42" at the moment.I think people with recent full hdtvs,AVRs,BDPs etc,should at least have a choice of buying 3D Bluray players with dual HDMI outs from whatever CO. so at least we can get the HD audio (DTS-MA,TRUE-HD etc) without having to fork out again for an AVR,esp if it is a high-grade unit,also capable of decoding all bitstreams.This would be a start i suppose...
post #1462 of 1824
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Naw, keep it as is - after all, that 3D shock you're suffering might have been brought on by the industry for as the lyricist might have phrased their intentions: "I praise the day that brings you pain").

Indeed,i felt it myself when after spending 6000,i still didnt have full spec after a few months,even though i know its a long time in the S&V industry.BTW he should have offically released that song to stuff it to them.
post #1463 of 1824
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Watching a movie at home on a display measured in inches in 1920 x 1080 resolution, pales in comparison to seeing content that is shot in IMAX 15/70 on a screen that is 5 to 8 STORIES high with a resolution of 12,000 x 8,700.

You're very right. In comparison to seeing the real deal there is no contest. However, a Blu-Ray IMAX movie such as HUBBLE, which I recently viewed, has such sharp clarity it puts a grin on my face. This is comparing it to other Blu-Rays though as opposed to comparing it to seeing it on a true IMAX screen.

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That would be a subjective issue.

It is indeed.
post #1464 of 1824
Came across this interesting article from two months ago regarding the problems associated with broadcasting 3D. Found another which I didn't post which indicated 3D broadcasting is the lowest priority of broadcasters in Europe. But it also pointed out that with most having purchased a non-3D HD monitor by the end of 2012 (when manufactuers plan to introduce 3D as a standard feature in more of their sets) there again will not be both a consumer run on new sets or public need for 3D broadcasts since such a small percentage of consumers would be owning one over the next few years. This held true for North America as well.

http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/articles...-in-a-bind.php
post #1465 of 1824
ESPN Executive: 3D Adoption Growing

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18 May, 2011

In a positive note for the 3D at home industry, Burns said adoption of ESPN 3D has far outpaced adoption of ESPN HD when it first launched in early 2003. The station celebrated its 104th 3D telecast March 17 with the broadcast of game one between the Dallas Mavericks and Oklahoma City Thunder in the NBA Western Conference finals.

“Consumer replacement cycles [for TVs] are shrinking,” Burns noted, adding that research shows a year-over-year price $978 price drop in 3DTVs. He added that 14 months ago there were only 19 3DTV models, while there were more than 60 as of March. And with Blu-ray 3D discs being released at a quickening pace, content from both studios and broadcasters is giving consumers more incentive to make the 3DTV leap, he said.

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/3d/...-growing-23989
post #1466 of 1824
Report: 3DTV Market to Grow 500% This Year

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17 May, 2011

The dormant 3DTV market is poised for a dramatic comeback with growth topping 500% in 2011 driven by unit sales in Europe, according to a new report.

Scottsdale, Ariz.-based In-Stat said it expects that all TVs with screen sizes larger than 40 inches will be 3D compatible going forward. The research firm said 3DTV units will top 300 million by 2015.

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In-Stat research director Michelle Abraham said that will change.

“Over the next few years, a greater percentage of large-screen TV sets will ship with the 3D feature,” Abraham said. “This will not only cause shipments of 3DTV sets to increase, but will also grow the number of households worldwide with 3DTV sets. 3D content providers need not worry that consumers will be unable to view their content.”

In-Stat said by 2015 Asia/Pacific will have the largest share of 3DTV unit shipments at 32%.

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/3d/...his-year-23966
post #1467 of 1824
And I wanted to buy 3D also, but settled for LED as the cost of glasses plus extra stuff was over my budget and it seems like a gimmick to wear glasses all the time to watch the show anyways..
post #1468 of 1824
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And I wanted to buy 3D also, but settled for LED as the cost of glasses plus extra stuff was over my budget and it seems like a gimmick to wear glasses all the time to watch the show anyways..

And your decision is more reflective of what the industry faces more than anything else. Even if half of all flat screens by 2015 include 3D, how many like you and I who already have HD monitors are going to be apt to buy one then? Gradually, as time goes on, consumers will need to replace their sets and then it will be a 50-50 proposition as to which type of set they purchase (one with or without the 3D feature).

This, in turn, effects the amount of content available, not the amount of shipments touted by the industry. It's all in the consumer's hands at this point.
post #1469 of 1824
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Originally Posted by Joseph Dubin View Post
And your decision is more reflective of what the industry faces more than anything else. Even if half of all flat screens by 2015 include 3D, how many like you and I who already have HD monitors are going to be apt to buy one then? Gradually, as time goes on, consumers will need to replace their sets and then it will be a 50-50 proposition as to which type of set they purchase (one with or without the 3D feature).

This, in turn, effects the amount of content available, not the amount of shipments touted by the industry. It's all in the consumer's hands at this point.
Your absolutely on the ball JD.Maybe 'Sorrow will come in the end' as i should have replied last time.
post #1470 of 1824
Follow up on some earlier discussions.

The first article indicates disappointing box office attendance for the 3D version of the latest Pirates film. The second cites drops in both bluray and DVD sales.

The continued decrease in both theater attendance and sales of discs for home viewing could indicate that the biggest obstacle facing 3D is not glasses, cost or lack of content but a lessing interest in movies overall. Though both industries will obviously remain healthy and highly profitable, this might not translate into the purchasing of new HD monitors or bluray players of any kind (3D or 2D) in the numbers touted by the industry despite the amount of shipments predicted to be made by 2014.

Remember the industry got it wrong believing there would be enough consumers wanting to "upgrade" every other year to keep television sales from declining. That was what caused 3D in the home not to take off as predicted. Consumers might be satisfied retaining their home theater equipment much longer than the seven year turnover figure the industry is now counting on as well causing the industry to get it wrong once again.

Again, it's all up to the consumers, not the marketing spokespeople.



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